Essex EDL Rally today....

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voyds9

8,488 posts

283 months

Sunday 24th September 2017
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You do realise Thatcher, Blair and Churchill were/are more right wing than Hitler

You do seem to be confusing/conflating right wing with fascism.

968

11,964 posts

248 months

Sunday 24th September 2017
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voyds9 said:
You do realise Thatcher, Blair and Churchill were/are more right wing than Hitler

You do seem to be confusing/conflating right wing with fascism.
No. I’m not and no they weren’t. I’m well aware of the definition of fascism. You’ll try to tell me the Nazis were called the national socialists in a feeble attempt to label them as left wing.

Halmyre

11,197 posts

139 months

Sunday 24th September 2017
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So said:
Alpinestars said:
What do you think of the EDL?
Sweet talkin' woman was great, My Blue Sky was overrated.
No, no, that was the PLO. EDL was 'Fanfare for the Common Market'.

Alpinestars

13,954 posts

244 months

Sunday 24th September 2017
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voyds9 said:
You do realise Thatcher, Blair and Churchill were/are more right wing than Hitler

You do seem to be confusing/conflating right wing with fascism.
EDL. Sympathiser, supporter, member?

voyds9

8,488 posts

283 months

Sunday 24th September 2017
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968 said:
No. I’m not and no they weren’t. I’m well aware of the definition of fascism. You’ll try to tell me the Nazis were called the national socialists in a feeble attempt to label them as left wing.
Really, when did I say right was left

https://www.politicalcompass.org/analysis2
This may disagree

On this scale I'm right of Churchill and left of Thatcher (and Blair)




968

11,964 posts

248 months

Sunday 24th September 2017
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I didn’t say you were left, however you claimed to be more right wing than Hitler and suggested fascism was not synonymous with the far right. Nothing could be further from the truth.

Alpinestars

13,954 posts

244 months

Sunday 24th September 2017
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Alpinestars said:
voyds9 said:
You do realise Thatcher, Blair and Churchill were/are more right wing than Hitler

You do seem to be confusing/conflating right wing with fascism.
EDL. Sympathiser, supporter, member?
Too difficult a question or are you too discomfited to answer?

Dindoit

1,645 posts

94 months

Sunday 24th September 2017
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voyds9 said:
Right didn't turn up because they have jobs

Left turned up in number
You are literally too dumb to insult

SpeedMattersNot

4,506 posts

196 months

Sunday 24th September 2017
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Mods?

stitched

3,813 posts

173 months

Sunday 24th September 2017
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SpeedMattersNot said:
Mods?
Genuinely why?
If he has sympathy with the EDL and that is unpopular here should he be banned because he holds an unpopular opinion?
Ihappen to disagree strongly with the group mentioned, I'll support their right to an opinion mind.

oilbethere

908 posts

81 months

Sunday 24th September 2017
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Alpinestars said:
Alpinestars said:
voyds9 said:
You do realise Thatcher, Blair and Churchill were/are more right wing than Hitler

You do seem to be confusing/conflating right wing with fascism.
EDL. Sympathiser, supporter, member?
Too difficult a question or are you too discomfited to answer?
So what if he/she is?

Alpinestars

13,954 posts

244 months

Sunday 24th September 2017
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oilbethere said:
Alpinestars said:
Alpinestars said:
voyds9 said:
You do realise Thatcher, Blair and Churchill were/are more right wing than Hitler

You do seem to be confusing/conflating right wing with fascism.
EDL. Sympathiser, supporter, member?
Too difficult a question or are you too discomfited to answer?
So what if he/she is?
Are you his mum?

I'm interested.

oilbethere

908 posts

81 months

Sunday 24th September 2017
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Alpinestars said:
oilbethere said:
Alpinestars said:
Alpinestars said:
voyds9 said:
You do realise Thatcher, Blair and Churchill were/are more right wing than Hitler

You do seem to be confusing/conflating right wing with fascism.
EDL. Sympathiser, supporter, member?
Too difficult a question or are you too discomfited to answer?
So what if he/she is?
Are you his mum?

I'm interested.
Never met him/her. What's your point?

Alpinestars

13,954 posts

244 months

Sunday 24th September 2017
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oilbethere said:
Alpinestars said:
oilbethere said:
Alpinestars said:
Alpinestars said:
voyds9 said:
You do realise Thatcher, Blair and Churchill were/are more right wing than Hitler

You do seem to be confusing/conflating right wing with fascism.
EDL. Sympathiser, supporter, member?
Too difficult a question or are you too discomfited to answer?
So what if he/she is?
Are you his mum?

I'm interested.
Never met him/her. What's your point?
In which case you're superfluous.

oilbethere

908 posts

81 months

Sunday 24th September 2017
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Alpinestars said:
oilbethere said:
Alpinestars said:
oilbethere said:
Alpinestars said:
Alpinestars said:
voyds9 said:
You do realise Thatcher, Blair and Churchill were/are more right wing than Hitler

You do seem to be confusing/conflating right wing with fascism.
EDL. Sympathiser, supporter, member?
Too difficult a question or are you too discomfited to answer?
So what if he/she is?
Are you his mum?

I'm interested.
Never met him/her. What's your point?
In which case you're superfluous.
Too difficult a question or are you too discomfited to answer?

Alpinestars

13,954 posts

244 months

Sunday 24th September 2017
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oilbethere said:
Alpinestars said:
oilbethere said:
Alpinestars said:
oilbethere said:
Alpinestars said:
Alpinestars said:
voyds9 said:
You do realise Thatcher, Blair and Churchill were/are more right wing than Hitler

You do seem to be confusing/conflating right wing with fascism.
EDL. Sympathiser, supporter, member?
Too difficult a question or are you too discomfited to answer?
So what if he/she is?
Are you his mum?

I'm interested.
Never met him/her. What's your point?
In which case you're superfluous.
Too difficult a question or are you too discomfited to answer?
How tiresome.

Because I'm interested. As I said a few posts ago.

What's your issue with me asking?

///ajd

8,964 posts

206 months

Sunday 24th September 2017
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I'm interested in an answer too.

The impression that Voyds9 may well be has certainly been given by his posts.

Why don't you - oilbethere - want him/her to answer?

oilbethere

908 posts

81 months

Sunday 24th September 2017
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Alpinestars said:
oilbethere said:
Alpinestars said:
oilbethere said:
Alpinestars said:
oilbethere said:
Alpinestars said:
Alpinestars said:
voyds9 said:
You do realise Thatcher, Blair and Churchill were/are more right wing than Hitler

You do seem to be confusing/conflating right wing with fascism.
EDL. Sympathiser, supporter, member?
Too difficult a question or are you too discomfited to answer?
So what if he/she is?
Are you his mum?

I'm interested.
Never met him/her. What's your point?
In which case you're superfluous.
Too difficult a question or are you too discomfited to answer?
How tiresome.

Because I'm interested. As I said a few posts ago.

What's your issue with me asking?
Very tiresome.

oilbethere

908 posts

81 months

Sunday 24th September 2017
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///ajd said:
I'm interested in an answer too.

The impression that Voyds9 may well be has certainly been given by his posts.

Why don't you - oilbethere - want him/her to answer?
What if he/she is?
Where have I stated I don't want him/her to answer?

Edited by oilbethere on Sunday 24th September 21:57

voyds9

8,488 posts

283 months

Monday 25th September 2017
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Hasn't a lot gone on whilst I've been having an afternoon socialising.

No, I'm not a far right sympathiser but I do believe they have a right to meet and protest (as does any group)

There has certainly been a change in being on the Right as has been demonstrated on this thread.

Nowadays being on the Right is automatically conflated with being on the Far Right





Think this last one was done before Corbyn took over Labour, now Labour about same position as SDLP

According to this the Conservatives are more right wing than the BNP

On the above tests I poll about where the Lib Dems are.

If you were to ask I feel more Conservative.