Dyson Launches Electric Car

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Funkycoldribena

7,379 posts

155 months

Wednesday 27th September 2017
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beko1987 said:
This mainly

https://manchestervacs.co.uk/DysonForum/index.php/...

Apart from that the general build quality, the price for a glorified bissell carpet sweeper and the lack of warranty honoring when bought from a non approved gtech supplier...

I have a full refurb thread to write up on one, the hair goes everywhere it shouldn't really, all inside the motor and cogs for the brushroll
Not my experience in 3-4 years of owning one.

lyonspride

2,978 posts

156 months

Wednesday 27th September 2017
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Zoon said:
What's wrong with Gtech? (genuine question)
Personal more than anything, I totally admit that.

The lies basically, I read news articles about how Nick Grey came to start his own business, a struggling engineer/technician held back by bureaucracy at VAX and all that, I kind of felt like I could identify with that...... As an electronics engineer who has struggled with bureaucracy and BS throughout my career I really had quite a high opinion of the company.

I applied for jobs at Gtech, I was basically ignored, because they only want recent graduates, which again blows the above "underdog" stories out of the water. When an agency put me forward for a role in manufacturing engineering with them, the response wasn't just a "no thanks" it was actually quite unnecessarily offensive. Basically it was academic snobbery, assuming that not having a degree meant that all my 20 years experience was a lie, they made me sooo angry.
I've got an electronics lab and mech workshop at home, this stuff isn't just a subject I took to pass time between "gap yahs", I do this stuff in my spare time, with countless successful projects to my name.

Lets bare in mind that I also interviewed for a similar role at Lotus sports cars, 3 interviews, an impending job offer, but I lost out due to some personal circumstances that came up.

It's all rubbish, Grey was head of department at VAX, just another suit.
I'm really just annoyed by this fake backstory and personally offended by the way they saw to communicate with someone who took an interest in the company. They market themselves as this honest/friendly home brew company, but I'd bet if you roll up to their facility, you'd find a long line of German saloons in the management parking area, a load of miserable looking factory workers out on fag break, fancy offices and a very poorly equipped manufacturing facility.

I think you can tell a lot about a business and it's products by the way they conduct themselves and the impression I got was rude, arrogant and self important.

Edited by lyonspride on Wednesday 27th September 18:47

miniman

25,063 posts

263 months

Wednesday 27th September 2017
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lyonspride said:
Personal more than anything, I totally admit that.

The lies basically, I read news articles about how Nick Grey came to start his own business, a struggling engineer/technician held back by bureaucracy at VAX and all that, I kind of felt like I could identify with that...... As an electronics engineer who has struggled with bureaucracy and BS throughout my career I really had quite a high opinion of the company.

I applied for jobs at Gtech, I was basically ignored, because they only want recent graduates, which again blows the above "underdog" stories out of the water. When an agency put me forward for a role in manufacturing engineering with them, the response wasn't just a "no thanks" it was actually quite unnecessarily offensive. Basically it was academic snobbery, assuming that not having a degree meant that all my 20 years experience was a lie, they made me sooo angry.
I've got an electronics lab and mech workshop at home, this stuff isn't just a subject I took to pass time between "gap yahs", I do this stuff in my spare time, with countless successful projects to my name.

Lets bare in mind that I also interviewed for a similar role at Lotus sports cars, 3 interviews, an impending job offer, but I lost out due to some personal circumstances that came up.

It's all rubbish, Grey was head of department at VAX, just another suit.
I'm really just annoyed by this fake backstory and personally offended by the way they saw to communicate with someone who took an interest in the company. They market themselves as this honest/friendly home brew company, but I'd bet if you roll up to their facility, you'd find a long line of German saloons in the management parking area, a load of miserable looking factory workers out on fag break, fancy offices and a very poorly equipped manufacturing facility.

I think you can tell a lot about a business and it's products by the way they conduct themselves and the impression I got was rude, arrogant and self important.

Edited by lyonspride on Wednesday 27th September 18:47
If you want your CV in front of the right person at Dyson just say the word.

Wacky Racer

38,237 posts

248 months

Wednesday 27th September 2017
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swisstoni said:
Wacky Racer said:
Never underestimate James Dyson.

That is all.
Ok Mrs Dyson.





iphonedyou

9,263 posts

158 months

Thursday 28th September 2017
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Lord Marylebone said:
That is how you are coming across.

Feel free to prove me wrong.
For the love of god, please don't encourage him.

The rest of us have to wade through his Interminable Quests to be Right on the Internet.

sleep



SantaBarbara

3,244 posts

109 months

Thursday 28th September 2017
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TooMany2cvs said:
No, Malaysia.

Engineering and design is Wiltshire.
However, we do it yet know where the proposed new electric vehicles may be built

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

127 months

Thursday 28th September 2017
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SantaBarbara said:
TooMany2cvs said:
No, Malaysia.

Engineering and design is Wiltshire.
However, we do it yet know where the proposed new electric vehicles may be built
No, we don't know. All he seems to have said publicly is that it's undecided, but the car will be assembled where the battery is assembled, and it'll be near where the market is - and he expects the main market to be the Far East.

Steviesam

1,244 posts

135 months

Thursday 28th September 2017
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TooMany2cvs said:
No, we don't know. All he seems to have said publicly is that it's undecided, but the car will be assembled where the battery is assembled, and it'll be near where the market is - and he expects the main market to be the Far East.
Honda site Swindon.

sie10110

49 posts

97 months

Thursday 10th October 2019
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-50004184

Electric car project binned as commercially unviable.

That sucks.

Gareth79

7,720 posts

247 months

Thursday 10th October 2019
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From what I heard they poached a lot of very talented staff from many companies, I do hope they will be able to move on swiftly (presumably taking a lot of knowledge with them!).

Ransoman

884 posts

91 months

Thursday 10th October 2019
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sie10110 said:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-50004184

Electric car project binned as commercially unviable.

That sucks.
No big loss. While more electric car choices are a good thing, Dyson products are poorly made, poorly designed, over priced and horrificly unreliable.

RacerMike

4,225 posts

212 months

Thursday 10th October 2019
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Gareth79 said:
From what I heard they poached a lot of very talented staff from many companies, I do hope they will be able to move on swiftly (presumably taking a lot of knowledge with them!).
I know of quite a few people who’ve been working there. Big kick in the teeth for many of them given they are highly unlikely to be able to do a job elsewhere at Dyson (the two I know well are both vehicle dynamics engineers) and both JLR and Aston have hiring freezes due to the current economic conditions and likelihood of a no deal Brexit.

Nickgnome

8,277 posts

90 months

Thursday 10th October 2019
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Ransoman said:
sie10110 said:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-50004184

Electric car project binned as commercially unviable.

That sucks.
No big loss. While more electric car choices are a good thing, Dyson products are poorly made, poorly designed, over priced and horrificly unreliable.
It is always a loss when the potential to create new good high quality R&D jobs in the UK is taken away.

Effectively you are criticising those engineers that work in the other divisions.

I am not a JD supporter but I have no reason to doubt the quality of his staff.

Nonetheless car construction is not for the novice as Tesla are finding out.

Maybe a JV would have been a better approach.

Not-The-Messiah

3,621 posts

82 months

Thursday 10th October 2019
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Sad news, perhaps they should have or even still should look at alternate small personal transport devices things like scooters, E bikes. I would have thought smaller electric devices like them would fit far better with their business mode and technology.

Nickgnome

8,277 posts

90 months

Thursday 10th October 2019
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Not-The-Messiah said:
Sad news, perhaps they should have or even still should look at alternate small personal transport devices things like scooters, E bikes. I would have thought smaller electric devices like them would fit far better with their business mode and technology.
Too small scale I suspect.

Electric bikes are still quite niche.

CoolHands

18,769 posts

196 months

Thursday 10th October 2019
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Can you imagine the dyson pricing?

Normal hairdryer £30, Dyson hairdryer £300
Normal car £25,000, dyson car £250,000

hyphen

26,262 posts

91 months

Thursday 10th October 2019
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Nickgnome said:
Too small scale I suspect.

Electric bikes are still quite niche.
VW going in so heavily and getting products out at speed probably made Dyson reconsider.

£2.5bn project at Dyson Vs £90bn for VW.

anonymous-user

55 months

Thursday 10th October 2019
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Blimey, really feel for the people that work there. Considering Honda are shutting down as well it is going to be a bit of a waste land jobs wise.

And he doesn't need an airfield anymore either..

anonymous-user

55 months

Thursday 10th October 2019
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This won't be the last major car firm to scale back work and certainly won't be the last to go out of business. There are very hard times ahead for the automotive industry, and not all the current members are going to make it though unscathed, and i fully expect that to include a few of even the biggest names in the business.....

hyphen

26,262 posts

91 months

Thursday 10th October 2019
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It's not a major car firm...

No major car firm will scale back EV r&d, not having competitive EV cars ready as governments ban ICE cars is not an option.

Edited by hyphen on Thursday 10th October 19:05