Anti-Semitism and the British Left.
Discussion
Funkycoldribena said:
jjlynn27 said:
And? What's that got to do with the price of cheese?
The two groups are not remotely comparable.Nothing to do with cheese.
There are nutjobs in any group. Israelis, Arabs, Pastafarians, any group. The nutjobs are the same, as they are nutjobs. Their actions might produce different results, but they are still, wait for it, nutjobs. Some will blow themselves up, some will stone 8-year-old girls for dressing immodestly or hang effigies of IDF soldiers.
jjlynn27 said:
Given that it's you I'll type this very slowly.
There are nutjobs in any group. Israelis, Arabs, Pastafarians, any group. The nutjobs are the same, as they are nutjobs. Their actions might produce different results, but they are still, wait for it, nutjobs. Some will blow themselves up, some will stone 8-year-old girls for dressing immodestly or hang effigies of IDF soldiers.
Well thanks for that,oh intelligent one,bit like saying the grass is green though.Utterly pointless.There are nutjobs in any group. Israelis, Arabs, Pastafarians, any group. The nutjobs are the same, as they are nutjobs. Their actions might produce different results, but they are still, wait for it, nutjobs. Some will blow themselves up, some will stone 8-year-old girls for dressing immodestly or hang effigies of IDF soldiers.
Funkycoldribena said:
jjlynn27 said:
Given that it's you I'll type this very slowly.
There are nutjobs in any group. Israelis, Arabs, Pastafarians, any group. The nutjobs are the same, as they are nutjobs. Their actions might produce different results, but they are still, wait for it, nutjobs. Some will blow themselves up, some will stone 8-year-old girls for dressing immodestly or hang effigies of IDF soldiers.
Well thanks for that,oh intelligent one,bit like saying the grass is green though.Utterly pointless.There are nutjobs in any group. Israelis, Arabs, Pastafarians, any group. The nutjobs are the same, as they are nutjobs. Their actions might produce different results, but they are still, wait for it, nutjobs. Some will blow themselves up, some will stone 8-year-old girls for dressing immodestly or hang effigies of IDF soldiers.
Breadvan72 said:
If by that you mean that Jewish culture is inherently about enterprise and business and so on you might be in danger of runnning some stereotypes yourself. Not every Jewish person is an entrepreneur. Judaism isn't inconsistent with forms of socialism. Look at Kibbutzim, for example.
Like most things in life, things have moved on in the world of Kibbutz, whilst founded on a mix of socialist and zionist principles, they do need money to keep the way of life going.The one I worked at back in the early 90's had a 4*Hotel, dairy/fish/agriculture farming operation, and two factories making small electrical goods. The Kibbutz down the road even had a big water theme park thing.
They still lived a collective way of life. e.g. You wouldn't own a car personally on that Kibbutz, but you would have access to 60+ vehicles when you needed.
Vandenberg said:
Like most things in life, things have moved on in the world of Kibbutz, whilst founded on a mix of socialist and zionist principles, they do need money to keep the way of life going.
The one I worked at back in the early 90's had a 4*Hotel, dairy/fish/agriculture farming operation, and two factories making small electrical goods. The Kibbutz down the road even had a big water theme park thing.
They still lived a collective way of life. e.g. You wouldn't own a car personally on that Kibbutz, but you would have access to 60+ vehicles when you needed.
So?The one I worked at back in the early 90's had a 4*Hotel, dairy/fish/agriculture farming operation, and two factories making small electrical goods. The Kibbutz down the road even had a big water theme park thing.
They still lived a collective way of life. e.g. You wouldn't own a car personally on that Kibbutz, but you would have access to 60+ vehicles when you needed.
BlackLabel said:
The article doesn't say that. I looked at some feed and somebody said he went to the loo twice.Labour continue to tear themselves apart over this issue.
A senior shadow cabinet member has called on Labour to fully adopt an internationally accepted definition of antisemitism after a joint editorial in three prominent Jewish newspapers said a government led by Jeremy Corbyn would be an “existential threat” to Jewish life in the UK. Jonathan Ashworth, the shadow health secretary, said he was “very depressed” by the front-page editorials on Thursday in the Jewish Chronicle, Jewish News and Jewish Telegraph condemning the decision over Labour’s code of conduct, and said the party needed to rebuild trust with the Jewish community.
A senior shadow cabinet member has called on Labour to fully adopt an internationally accepted definition of antisemitism after a joint editorial in three prominent Jewish newspapers said a government led by Jeremy Corbyn would be an “existential threat” to Jewish life in the UK. Jonathan Ashworth, the shadow health secretary, said he was “very depressed” by the front-page editorials on Thursday in the Jewish Chronicle, Jewish News and Jewish Telegraph condemning the decision over Labour’s code of conduct, and said the party needed to rebuild trust with the Jewish community.
The International Definition of Antisemitism ( https://antisemitism.uk/definition/ ) cites the following as a contemporary example of antisemitism:
The Drawing comparisons of contemporary Israeli policy to that of the Nazis.
Well that's a load of bks insn't it?
The Drawing comparisons of contemporary Israeli policy to that of the Nazis.
Well that's a load of bks insn't it?
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