Bombardier - A sign of things to come?
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Trade between the US and the EU is huge - the biggest trading exchange there is apparently, at least in 2014 from the stats I just found.
Valued at over a $trillion in goods and services in 2014, the biggest category is - guess what - aircraft - worth $35bn. This is across all 28 EU states of course, in isolation the UK slice is big but only a fraction.
It is interesting to see whether the EU will attempt to help at all now, given our "up yours delors" stance. We look a bit stupid asking for help really wouldn't we. Instead May whimpers about some relatively tiny Boeing defence contracts. Could it have been different? Yes.
However, the thing most will remember is the famous swivel eyed loon we put in the EU as an MEP. For years he has poisoned UK-EU relations. Fair to say the EU would be unlikely to help Farage if he tried to get the EU to rally to the defence of this plucky Northern Ireland aircraft manufacturer. Can you inagine him trying? Unfortunately most wouldn't piss on him should he be on fire, such is his positive influence in the EU.
Sadly, when it comes to bombardier, I guess the EU already don't feel obligated to help at the WTO, whereas if we'd stayed in they would be. And we are in no-mans land. Not on the WTO, but pissing on our representative there.
But lets be positive about brexit, how do you post a boucing smiley? That will see us through!
Valued at over a $trillion in goods and services in 2014, the biggest category is - guess what - aircraft - worth $35bn. This is across all 28 EU states of course, in isolation the UK slice is big but only a fraction.
It is interesting to see whether the EU will attempt to help at all now, given our "up yours delors" stance. We look a bit stupid asking for help really wouldn't we. Instead May whimpers about some relatively tiny Boeing defence contracts. Could it have been different? Yes.
However, the thing most will remember is the famous swivel eyed loon we put in the EU as an MEP. For years he has poisoned UK-EU relations. Fair to say the EU would be unlikely to help Farage if he tried to get the EU to rally to the defence of this plucky Northern Ireland aircraft manufacturer. Can you inagine him trying? Unfortunately most wouldn't piss on him should he be on fire, such is his positive influence in the EU.
Sadly, when it comes to bombardier, I guess the EU already don't feel obligated to help at the WTO, whereas if we'd stayed in they would be. And we are in no-mans land. Not on the WTO, but pissing on our representative there.
But lets be positive about brexit, how do you post a boucing smiley? That will see us through!
///ajd said:
Trade between the US and the EU is huge - the biggest trading exchange there is apparently, at least in 2014 from the stats I just found.
Valued at over a $trillion in goods and services in 2014, the biggest category is - guess what - aircraft - worth $35bn. This is across all 28 EU states of course, in isolation the UK slice is big but only a fraction.
It is interesting to see whether the EU will attempt to help at all now, given our "up yours delors" stance. We look a bit stupid asking for help really wouldn't we. Instead May whimpers about some relatively tiny Boeing defence contracts. Could it have been different? Yes.
However, the thing most will remember is the famous swivel eyed loon we put in the EU as an MEP. For years he has poisoned UK-EU relations. Fair to say the EU would be unlikely to help Farage if he tried to get the EU to rally to the defence of this plucky Northern Ireland aircraft manufacturer. Can you inagine him trying? Unfortunately most wouldn't piss on him should he be on fire, such is his positive influence in the EU.
Sadly, when it comes to bombardier, I guess the EU already don't feel obligated to help at the WTO, whereas if we'd stayed in they would be. And we are in no-mans land. Not on the WTO, but pissing on our representative there.
But lets be positive about brexit, how do you post a boucing smiley? That will see us through!
And....Valued at over a $trillion in goods and services in 2014, the biggest category is - guess what - aircraft - worth $35bn. This is across all 28 EU states of course, in isolation the UK slice is big but only a fraction.
It is interesting to see whether the EU will attempt to help at all now, given our "up yours delors" stance. We look a bit stupid asking for help really wouldn't we. Instead May whimpers about some relatively tiny Boeing defence contracts. Could it have been different? Yes.
However, the thing most will remember is the famous swivel eyed loon we put in the EU as an MEP. For years he has poisoned UK-EU relations. Fair to say the EU would be unlikely to help Farage if he tried to get the EU to rally to the defence of this plucky Northern Ireland aircraft manufacturer. Can you inagine him trying? Unfortunately most wouldn't piss on him should he be on fire, such is his positive influence in the EU.
Sadly, when it comes to bombardier, I guess the EU already don't feel obligated to help at the WTO, whereas if we'd stayed in they would be. And we are in no-mans land. Not on the WTO, but pissing on our representative there.
But lets be positive about brexit, how do you post a boucing smiley? That will see us through!
We have another Brexit thread.
What fun - there was a vote some time ago similar to democracy but apparently not, since it has not been accepted as the will of the majority.
cloggy said:
p
s off you idiot.
This was aimed at that scrote //.
This is the kind of debate PH really needs to lift the bar. s off you idiot.This was aimed at that scrote //.
Reminds me of the time that someone thought that the appropriate response to a post was to call me a "spacker/spaz". What a classy dude
I can only assume the irritation of Mr Cloggy stems from either a deep love of his nigelness, or perhaps worse, a dawning realisation that I have a valid point.
Ali G said:
And....
We have another Brexit thread.
What fun - there was a vote some time ago similar to democracy but apparently not, since it has not been accepted as the will of the majority.
Not really, what we have is an "I can't admit its a good demonstration of how being out of the EU might be a problem so I'll post smilies and smoke and hope nobody notices" thread.We have another Brexit thread.
What fun - there was a vote some time ago similar to democracy but apparently not, since it has not been accepted as the will of the majority.
///ajd said:
gadgetmac said:
Not really, what we have is an "I can't admit its a good demonstration of how being out of the EU might be a problem so I'll post smilies and smoke and hope nobody notices" thread.
100% what I'm seeing. Reasons to be cheerful 1, 2 3.
Shakermaker said:
The aerospace company is based in Quebec, the French speaking part of Canada, and so it is right to use the French pronunciation.
The beer is made in England and so we use the English pronunciation, named for the military rank.
Nonsense. The beer is made in England and so we use the English pronunciation, named for the military rank.
How do you pronounce the name of the French capital city?
The Mad Monk said:
Shakermaker said:
The aerospace company is based in Quebec, the French speaking part of Canada, and so it is right to use the French pronunciation.
The beer is made in England and so we use the English pronunciation, named for the military rank.
Nonsense. The beer is made in England and so we use the English pronunciation, named for the military rank.
How do you pronounce the name of the French capital city?
Deptford Draylons said:
///ajd said:
Reminds me of the time that someone thought that the appropriate response to a post was to call me a "spacker/spaz". What a classy dude.
That would have been me. You earned it when you talked so much cap on the Nissan deal, with illegal state aid talk and you trying to me me the Nissan boss smiling at the awaiting press pack was proof he was able to just demand compensation from HMG when he felt like. For that you got called a spacker.You are a proven liar and fantasist here peddling the same old ' were doomed/you're racist' message. Sorry, but we may as well be clear on it.
You seem to think its OK to effectively call someone a spastic - as if being disabled is some form of acceptable insult. Why not go the whole hog and call me Joey Deacon?
Most would agree I think that this is pretty unpleasant, in fact it is considered one of the most taboo insults in the UK. Ultimately it is embarrassing for those who use it, seemingly unaware of how it makes them come across.
Ali G said:
Swivel eyed loon?
British informal - Rotating the eyes wildly, especially in a way regarded as indicative of frenzy.
‘Hortensio reacts with swivel-eyed panic’
- Holding or expressing political views regarded as extreme or fanatical.
‘a swivel-eyed loon banging on about the Magna Carta’.
Nice try but it doesn't have the same connotations as the "s" word at all.
It is interesting to google swivel eyed loon and trace it back to the events of 2013 where the genesis of brexit was taking hold in the tory party.
Edited by ///ajd on Thursday 28th September 19:33
///ajd said:
cloggy said:
ps off you idiot.
This was aimed at that scrote //.
This is the kind of debate PH really needs to lift the bar. s off you idiot.This was aimed at that scrote //.
Reminds me of the time that someone thought that the appropriate response to a post was to call me a "spacker/spaz". What a classy dude
I can only assume the irritation of Mr Cloggy stems from either a deep love of his nigelness, or perhaps worse, a dawning realisation that I have a valid point.
). In your shoes I would only respond to reasoned debate....... to keep these topics on track.Although, you seem reasonably robust to it!
I find the debunking of debate by name calling pro-EU posters or EU officials (and vice versa....), a sign of the posters lack of reason and understanding. It is a white flag to me and therefore does not require a response It is in a similar vein to 'catchy' tabloid headlines designed to attract a certain readership.
Lets play the ball, not the player....
Mike
mike9009 said:
To be fair if I were you I would not respond to these jibes. (....and I have been guilty of responding too!! ). In your shoes I would only respond to reasoned debate....... to keep these topics on track.
Although, you seem reasonably robust to it!
I find the debunking of debate by name calling pro-EU posters or EU officials (and vice versa....), a sign of the posters lack of reason and understanding. It is a white flag to me and therefore does not require a response It is in a similar vein to 'catchy' tabloid headlines designed to attract a certain readership.
Lets play the ball, not the player....
Mike
I agree - I normally I don't bother with such chaff, it is pointless. ). In your shoes I would only respond to reasoned debate....... to keep these topics on track.Although, you seem reasonably robust to it!
I find the debunking of debate by name calling pro-EU posters or EU officials (and vice versa....), a sign of the posters lack of reason and understanding. It is a white flag to me and therefore does not require a response It is in a similar vein to 'catchy' tabloid headlines designed to attract a certain readership.
Lets play the ball, not the player....
Mike
It did remind however of the spacker comment which I had earlier ignored, and then in hindsight regretted - that should not have been left without comment.
jsf said:
I would appreciate if ///ajd would explain to me how our membership of the EU helps the Bombardier workers in this particular case.
Could it not be argued that Bombardier is a good example of how high tech industry partnerships work well without the requirement of joint membership of a large block such as the EU, as the Northern Ireland and Canadian plants working together is technologically and commercially successful.
[my cousin vinny] Would ///ajd and only ///ajd please answer my questions [/my cousin vinny]Could it not be argued that Bombardier is a good example of how high tech industry partnerships work well without the requirement of joint membership of a large block such as the EU, as the Northern Ireland and Canadian plants working together is technologically and commercially successful.
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