More money to find missing girl
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LoonyTunes said:
Balderdash.
Of course you are at will to think what you like about what happened but like flat earthers your theories fly in the face of the evidence and are not being taken seriously by anyone outside of other flat earthers.
When real evidence emerges against them then you might have a point but so far it doesn't exist or the McCanns would be under constant investigation from the real experts - the fact that they are not ought to tell you all you need to know about what they think of your theories.
There is suggestion that they were not allowed to be investigated by the real experts...Of course you are at will to think what you like about what happened but like flat earthers your theories fly in the face of the evidence and are not being taken seriously by anyone outside of other flat earthers.
When real evidence emerges against them then you might have a point but so far it doesn't exist or the McCanns would be under constant investigation from the real experts - the fact that they are not ought to tell you all you need to know about what they think of your theories.
Colin Sutton said:
I do though think that a point worthy of reinforcing is that a proper, conclusive and reasoned elimination or implication of Kate and Gerry McCann would have been in everyone's interest, most of all theirs. That would have been my first objective had I been leading Operation Grange and so that is the biggest issue I have with how that investigation proceeded. To eliminate or implicate those closest to the child in this type of case is not only the documented best investigative practice but is common sense. Had Grange done this then everything would be a lot clearer.
JagLover said:
LoonyTunes said:
What theory is that then? I can't remember putting one forward 
I'll go with what the professionals from Scotland Yard and Portugal are doing - the ones who've been on the case for 12 years and with the training, expertise and experience - which is looking for a third party for the crime.
I'll leave you to dream up the more elaborate and fanciful scenarios.
Professionals like the former head of the investigation, who released a book saying the McCanns did it after retiring?I'll go with what the professionals from Scotland Yard and Portugal are doing - the ones who've been on the case for 12 years and with the training, expertise and experience - which is looking for a third party for the crime.
I'll leave you to dream up the more elaborate and fanciful scenarios.
You are pushing an unproved conspiracy theory, just like the rest of us. Your conspiracy theory is that Madelaine was abducted.
As for the book by the discredited Amaral who was removed from the investigation - again there is no evidence in it that anybody since has given any credence to - but lots of conspiracy theorists will have bought it $$$
"Amaral has earned €342,111 since the publication of his book in 2009, according to documents filed at the ECHR. He made a further €40,000 from the sale of his DVD.
Demand for the book has seen it translated into multiple languages and over 180,000 copies have been put to print.
It is believed he is planning to release a follow-up."
It's sold almost as many copies as books about the Loch Ness Monster.
Nice little earner for a retired Policeman.
Dr Interceptor said:
LoonyTunes said:
Balderdash.
Of course you are at will to think what you like about what happened but like flat earthers your theories fly in the face of the evidence and are not being taken seriously by anyone outside of other flat earthers.
When real evidence emerges against them then you might have a point but so far it doesn't exist or the McCanns would be under constant investigation from the real experts - the fact that they are not ought to tell you all you need to know about what they think of your theories.
How much time have you spent in Praia da Luz?Of course you are at will to think what you like about what happened but like flat earthers your theories fly in the face of the evidence and are not being taken seriously by anyone outside of other flat earthers.
When real evidence emerges against them then you might have a point but so far it doesn't exist or the McCanns would be under constant investigation from the real experts - the fact that they are not ought to tell you all you need to know about what they think of your theories.
LoonyTunes said:
Dr Interceptor said:
LoonyTunes said:
Balderdash.
Of course you are at will to think what you like about what happened but like flat earthers your theories fly in the face of the evidence and are not being taken seriously by anyone outside of other flat earthers.
When real evidence emerges against them then you might have a point but so far it doesn't exist or the McCanns would be under constant investigation from the real experts - the fact that they are not ought to tell you all you need to know about what they think of your theories.
How much time have you spent in Praia da Luz?Of course you are at will to think what you like about what happened but like flat earthers your theories fly in the face of the evidence and are not being taken seriously by anyone outside of other flat earthers.
When real evidence emerges against them then you might have a point but so far it doesn't exist or the McCanns would be under constant investigation from the real experts - the fact that they are not ought to tell you all you need to know about what they think of your theories.
Dr Interceptor said:
LoonyTunes said:
Dr Interceptor said:
LoonyTunes said:
Balderdash.
Of course you are at will to think what you like about what happened but like flat earthers your theories fly in the face of the evidence and are not being taken seriously by anyone outside of other flat earthers.
When real evidence emerges against them then you might have a point but so far it doesn't exist or the McCanns would be under constant investigation from the real experts - the fact that they are not ought to tell you all you need to know about what they think of your theories.
How much time have you spent in Praia da Luz?Of course you are at will to think what you like about what happened but like flat earthers your theories fly in the face of the evidence and are not being taken seriously by anyone outside of other flat earthers.
When real evidence emerges against them then you might have a point but so far it doesn't exist or the McCanns would be under constant investigation from the real experts - the fact that they are not ought to tell you all you need to know about what they think of your theories.
Show your workings please.
I'll wait.
For those thinking that the McCann's likely had something to do with her disappearance here are the 9 conspiracy theories the Internet/Social Media are discussing. You'll certainly see yourself in there somewhere.
https://thetab.com/uk/2019/03/19/madeleine-mccann-...
I particularly like the 'She Never Existed In The First Place' theory
https://thetab.com/uk/2019/03/19/madeleine-mccann-...
I particularly like the 'She Never Existed In The First Place' theory
LoonyTunes said:
For those thinking that the McCann's likely had something to do with her disappearance here are the 9 conspiracy theories the Internet/Social Media are discussing. You'll certainly see yourself in there somewhere.
https://thetab.com/uk/2019/03/19/madeleine-mccann-...
I particularly like the 'She Never Existed In The First Place' theory
How much time have you spent with the Police Investigating the crime?https://thetab.com/uk/2019/03/19/madeleine-mccann-...
I particularly like the 'She Never Existed In The First Place' theory
Bob Dong said:
LoonyTunes said:
For those thinking that the McCann's likely had something to do with her disappearance here are the 9 conspiracy theories the Internet/Social Media are discussing. You'll certainly see yourself in there somewhere.
https://thetab.com/uk/2019/03/19/madeleine-mccann-...
I particularly like the 'She Never Existed In The First Place' theory
How much time have you spent with the Police Investigating the crime?https://thetab.com/uk/2019/03/19/madeleine-mccann-...
I particularly like the 'She Never Existed In The First Place' theory
What about you?
I think we would all agree this is a one-off case where there is practically zero evidence to substantiate any theory - that of the police, the parents or internet sleuths.
To my mind therefore one persons theory carries no more or less weight than someone else's regardless of how out there it may seem. You don't have to look far to find several past cases where the truth has been stranger than fiction and the completely improbably became the reality.
What I don't think can be argued against is that in this case there were several instances of what would generally be considered odd / suspicious behavior and actions using a very wide barometer of what the average middle-class parent might be expected to do.
I don't believe we will ever find out and will likely still be flinging sh*t at each other on this thread while sitting in the nursing home.
To my mind therefore one persons theory carries no more or less weight than someone else's regardless of how out there it may seem. You don't have to look far to find several past cases where the truth has been stranger than fiction and the completely improbably became the reality.
What I don't think can be argued against is that in this case there were several instances of what would generally be considered odd / suspicious behavior and actions using a very wide barometer of what the average middle-class parent might be expected to do.
I don't believe we will ever find out and will likely still be flinging sh*t at each other on this thread while sitting in the nursing home.
LoonyTunes said:
NorfolkInClue1 said:
LoonyTunes said:
A conspiracy theorist is blanking me! I don't know how I'm gonna get to sleep tonight now. 
Seriously though fella, your aggression does you no favours. You're coming across as a shouty numpty, all in my humble opinion of course.
This subject is bound to come up with many conspiracies, some interesting and some frankly loony, but until it's solved I'm of the opinion that everyone is fair game for finger pointing.
The only thing that really stands out for me in all of this is the "no comment" replies in the police interviews, I'm sorry, but if my child actually went missing I would answer anything the police asked in the hope they could spot something that I couldn't.....no comment is the reply of guilt, wether that's guilt of child neglect or of something worse who knows but they really have done themselves no favours at all when it comes down to it.........
Why do you think the police from 2 countries don't think that their silence is damning if its so obvious?
Seriously fella, you're argument does you no favours as you just come across as another internet conspiracy loon. All in my humble opinion of course.
I'd agree with most of your post but not this part;
Legend83 said:
To my mind therefore one persons theory carries no more or less weight than someone else's regardless of how out there it may seem.
The opinions of the Investigators with the expertise, experience and in-depth knowledge of the case should be given far more credence than those of the (as you put it ) "Internet Sleuths". It's why they are called experts and asked for their opinions in court and in other places that matter. The sleuths don't get the phone call when that is needed.George Smiley said:
LoonyTunes said:
NorfolkInClue1 said:
LoonyTunes said:
A conspiracy theorist is blanking me! I don't know how I'm gonna get to sleep tonight now. Seriously though fella, your aggression does you no favours. You're coming across as a shouty numpty, all in my humble opinion of course.
This subject is bound to come up with many conspiracies, some interesting and some frankly loony, but until it's solved I'm of the opinion that everyone is fair game for finger pointing.
The only thing that really stands out for me in all of this is the "no comment" replies in the police interviews, I'm sorry, but if my child actually went missing I would answer anything the police asked in the hope they could spot something that I couldn't.....no comment is the reply of guilt, wether that's guilt of child neglect or of something worse who knows but they really have done themselves no favours at all when it comes down to it.........
Why do you think the police from 2 countries don't think that their silence is damning if its so obvious?
Seriously fella, you're argument does you no favours as you just come across as another internet conspiracy loon. All in my humble opinion of course.
I'd suggest it's because it's considered a blind alley for any investigation and thus a waste of taxpayers cash.
Unless you feel it's an establishment cover-up.
Legend83 said:
I think we would all agree this is a one-off case where there is practically zero evidence to substantiate any theory - that of the police, the parents or internet sleuths.
To my mind therefore one persons theory carries no more or less weight than someone else's regardless of how out there it may seem. You don't have to look far to find several past cases where the truth has been stranger than fiction and the completely improbably became the reality.
What I don't think can be argued against is that in this case there were several instances of what would generally be considered odd / suspicious behavior and actions using a very wide barometer of what the average middle-class parent might be expected to do.
I don't believe we will ever find out and will likely still be flinging sh*t at each other on this thread while sitting in the nursing home.
I don't know what happened despite reading through tonnes of testimony and evidence. There are so many questions which either have not been answered well or there is ambiguity over the answerTo my mind therefore one persons theory carries no more or less weight than someone else's regardless of how out there it may seem. You don't have to look far to find several past cases where the truth has been stranger than fiction and the completely improbably became the reality.
What I don't think can be argued against is that in this case there were several instances of what would generally be considered odd / suspicious behavior and actions using a very wide barometer of what the average middle-class parent might be expected to do.
I don't believe we will ever find out and will likely still be flinging sh*t at each other on this thread while sitting in the nursing home.
- How often were the children really checked?
- Was the door left open to the apartment?
- Why was there no/limited evidence of a break in through a window?
- Why take Maddie and not the twins?
- How did Kate know she had been abducted immediately? Why not lost out of an open door/window?
- why not let the twins be tested?
- Why not answer the questions from the Portugeuse Police.... its your daughter who has gone missing? (I know the suspect answer to this but honestly, it's a child
- Why wash Cuddle cat? MIght have held evidence?
- Why stop and write multiple timelines instead of searching?
and loads more questions
Hopefully the Police have the answers to these but in the public domain these are questions which are not satisfactorarily answered.
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LoonyTunes said:
The opinions of the Investigators with the expertise, experience and in-depth knowledge of the case should be given far more credence than those of the (as you put it ) "Internet Sleuths". It's why they are called experts and asked for their opinions in court and in other places that matter. The sleuths don't get the phone call when that is needed.
And what have they come up with that is any more or less plausible than you or I? In 8 years of investigating with all the tools and expertise at their disposal?Legend83 said:
LoonyTunes said:
The opinions of the Investigators with the expertise, experience and in-depth knowledge of the case should be given far more credence than those of the (as you put it ) "Internet Sleuths". It's why they are called experts and asked for their opinions in court and in other places that matter. The sleuths don't get the phone call when that is needed.
And what have they come up with that is any more or less plausible than you or I? In 8 years of investigating with all the tools and expertise at their disposal?Short of that information all you are left with to accuse the McCanns is some kind of conspiracy theory.
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