More money to find missing girl

[AJL308]

Downward said:

Surely its the mystery of the century so far.
Like the MH371 plane dissaperance. But we are certain it crashed someowhere.

Depends. There are a load of bat-st crazy muppets out there who think that 911 was the mystery of the century so far and a big inside job by the US government. Ignoring, of course, the fact that it would require George Bush to have the intellect of a super criminal to pull off.

It's total Muppetry. It really is. Like, beyond insanity. You're on holiday with friends and their kids, things are pretty casual in a sort of "okay, we'll see you around seven at the tapas place" kind of way and all of a sudden you accidentally (or intentionally) kill your three year-old daughter, hide or dispose of the body and manage to show up for dinner as arranged, completely unflustered by it all. Really??? People honestly believe that this is the single most likely scenario here? It's utter lunacy.

Edited by AJL308 on Thursday 29th March 23:21

[cuprabob]

Downward said:

Surely its the mystery of the century so far.
Like the MH371 plane dissaperance. But we are certain it crashed someowhere.

It was MH370 that disappeared...

[Wacky Racer]

I blame Pat Phelan.

[skwdenyer]

AJL308 said:

Really, which ones, specifically? I mean ones which have actually been proved to be true based on the 'death bed' confession.

And, sorry, but the whole notion that they did that is frankly so unlikely as to be essentially impossible. How many couples have you ever heard of who managed to keep a lie of such massive proportions going for so long both before and after the discovery of the event?

The prisons are full of unsuccessful criminals. History is full of unsuccessful cover-ups.

As Rumsfeld sagely observed, we don't know what we don't know. We have absolutely no idea what the incidence of such a cover-up is.

[TheSnitch]

AJL308 said:

TheSnitch said:

AJL308 said:

And this is pretty much the whole issue here. I find it quite the stretch to believe that multiple people can perpetuate a lie - a lie of such massively epic proportions about such a significant event - for more than a decade. I can just about accept that one person could be able to do it but, two? Not only two people but the missing child's parents for god's sake! We are asked to believe that they not only lied to the police, prosecutors and media after the fact but also to the friends they were holidaying with (and presumably hotel/restaurant staff too) before the disappearance was noticed and were able to behave perfectly normally to all these people.

How TF do you do that for so long? It stretches credibility to breaking point, quite honestly. Especially so if the death was accidental because the guilt must be absolutely crippling,

I'm sorry but I just don't buy it.

I don't have any difficulty believing that scenario at all and I would imagine it is far more common than we imagine. Plenty of deathbed confessions would suggest so, in any case.

Really, which ones, specifically? I mean ones which have actually been proved to be true based on the 'death bed' confession.

And, sorry, but the whole notion that they did that is frankly so unlikely as to be essentially impossible. How many couples have you ever heard of who managed to keep a lie of such massive proportions going for so long both before and after the discovery of the event?

I think you are trying a little too hard. If you want to believe that she wandered off, pausing only to sedate her twin brother and sister, before hiding herself thoroughly, than that's up to you.

There are actually numerous examples of people coughing to a crime no-one even knew about, prompted by their own looming demise. In fact there was a very recent one with the old ''body buried in the garden'' routine.

What you are saying, in effect, is that it is ''essentially impossible'' for a couple to off their own child, possibly accidentally, and never be caught. History suggests you are wrong.

Family account for over 75% of missing/murdered children cases.

Strangers account for 4%

[anonymous-user]

AJL308 said:

Depends. There are a load of bat-st crazy muppets out there who think that 911 was the mystery of the century so far and a big inside job by the US government. Ignoring, of course, the fact that it would require George Bush to have the intellect of a super criminal to pull off.

It's total Muppetry. It really is. Like, beyond insanity. You're on holiday with friends and their kids, things are pretty casual in a sort of "okay, we'll see you around seven at the tapas place" kind of way and all of a sudden you accidentally (or intentionally) kill your three year-old daughter, hide or dispose of the body and manage to show up for dinner as arranged, completely unflustered by it all. Really??? People honestly believe that this is the single most likely scenario here? It's utter lunacy.

Edited by anonymous-user on Thursday 29th March 23:21

Happy Easter Gerry.

[eccles]

AJL308 said:

Downward said:

Surely its the mystery of the century so far.
Like the MH371 plane dissaperance. But we are certain it crashed someowhere.

Depends. There are a load of bat-st crazy muppets out there who think that 911 was the mystery of the century so far and a big inside job by the US government. Ignoring, of course, the fact that it would require George Bush to have the intellect of a super criminal to pull off.

It's total Muppetry. It really is. Like, beyond insanity. You're on holiday with friends and their kids, things are pretty casual in a sort of "okay, we'll see you around seven at the tapas place" kind of way and all of a sudden you accidentally (or intentionally) kill your three year-old daughter, hide or dispose of the body and manage to show up for dinner as arranged, completely unflustered by it all. Really??? People honestly believe that this is the single most likely scenario here? It's utter lunacy.

Edited by AJL308 on Thursday 29th March 23:21

You seem to be ignoring the fact that history is full of people who to the outside world seem to be 'normal' and carry on with a normal life yet at home have children chained up in the basement or a back garden full of bodies.
There are many, many deaths that are unsolved, from hit and runs to shootings or stabbings, yet the people who are guilty are going about their lives, not gibbering wrecks.

[Downward]

cuprabob said:

Downward said:

Surely its the mystery of the century so far.
Like the MH371 plane dissaperance. But we are certain it crashed someowhere.

It was MH370 that disappeared...

Or was it ?

[TheSnitch]

eccles said:

You seem to be ignoring the fact that history is full of people who to the outside world seem to be 'normal' and carry on with a normal life yet at home have children chained up in the basement or a back garden full of bodies.
There are many, many deaths that are unsolved, from hit and runs to shootings or stabbings, yet the people who are guilty are going about their lives, not gibbering wrecks.

Precisely. I'm not saying that is what happened here, but to say ''That wouldn't happen'' is flakier than a Greggs pasty

[TheSnitch]

AJL308 said:

Depends. There are a load of bat-st crazy muppets out there who think that 911 was the mystery of the century so far and a big inside job by the US government. Ignoring, of course, the fact that it would require George Bush to have the intellect of a super criminal to pull off.

It's total Muppetry. It really is. Like, beyond insanity. You're on holiday with friends and their kids, things are pretty casual in a sort of "okay, we'll see you around seven at the tapas place" kind of way and all of a sudden you accidentally (or intentionally) kill your three year-old daughter, hide or dispose of the body and manage to show up for dinner as arranged, completely unflustered by it all. Really??? People honestly believe that this is the single most likely scenario here? It's utter lunacy.

Edited by AJL308 on Thursday 29th March 23:21

Well, prior to this I would have said that a group of doctors all leaving their toddlers home alone while they went to a bar was a pretty unlikely scenario, especially when some of the kids were poorly and, in the case of the McCanns, leaving an unlocked door opening directly to a public road.

I think that reeks far more of utter lunacy, but we know that is what in fact happened. It's not a quantum leap for me to imagine that someone who could do that would be capable of carrying out plan B

[wc98]

AJL308 said:

But probably more likely than either being taken out the window (or otherwise removed by someone) or killed, accidentally or otherwise, and having her body hidden by her parent(s).

no,unless gerry is friends with david blaine. do you have a personal connection to any of those involved ? you appear rather keen to dismiss any view in opposition to that trotted out by a couple i personally think should have been charged with child neglect.

[irocfan]

TheSnitch said:

AJL308 said:

And this is pretty much the whole issue here. I find it quite the stretch to believe that multiple people can perpetuate a lie - a lie of such massively epic proportions about such a significant event - for more than a decade. I can just about accept that one person could be able to do it but, two? Not only two people but the missing child's parents for god's sake! We are asked to believe that they not only lied to the police, prosecutors and media after the fact but also to the friends they were holidaying with (and presumably hotel/restaurant staff too) before the disappearance was noticed and were able to behave perfectly normally to all these people.

How TF do you do that for so long? It stretches credibility to breaking point, quite honestly. Especially so if the death was accidental because the guilt must be absolutely crippling,

I'm sorry but I just don't buy it.

I don't have any difficulty believing that scenario at all and I would imagine it is far more common than we imagine. Plenty of deathbed confessions would suggest so, in any case.

the problem is that the case has now attained such 'mythic' status that they're totally screwed. It's kinda like having grabbed the tiger by the tail - you're too bloody scared to let go! As for the authorities I do wonder how much the thought of Azaria Chamberlain was in their mind.


Someone on here mentioned "one of the greatest crimes of the century" - pur-leese, it's a missing persons case with no happy ending (like most, I suspect)


Personally I do not think it was alien abduction - everyone knows that they abduct and return. MM must've been a changeling

[Woody John]

techiedave said:

AJL308 said:

Depends. There are a load of bat-st crazy muppets out there who think that 911 was the mystery of the century so far and a big inside job by the US government. Ignoring, of course, the fact that it would require George Bush to have the intellect of a super criminal to pull off.

It's total Muppetry. It really is. Like, beyond insanity. You're on holiday with friends and their kids, things are pretty casual in a sort of "okay, we'll see you around seven at the tapas place" kind of way and all of a sudden you accidentally (or intentionally) kill your three year-old daughter, hide or dispose of the body and manage to show up for dinner as arranged, completely unflustered by it all. Really??? People honestly believe that this is the single most likely scenario here? It's utter lunacy.

Edited by AJL308 on Thursday 29th March 23:21

Happy Easter Gerry.

Happy Easter Gerry.

[Ructions]

It's all over Twitter at the minute, they reckon she has been found.

[oilbethere]

Ructions said:

It's all over Twitter at the minute, they reckon she has been found.

The little baby Jesus bought her back?

[oilbethere]

They find her in a Kinder egg?

[eccles]

Ructions said:

It's all over Twitter at the minute, they reckon she has been found.

Nothing to do with the date then?

[FourWheelDrift]

There's a wealth of gullibility on social media.

[Ructions]

eccles said:

Ructions said:

It's all over Twitter at the minute, they reckon she has been found.

Nothing to do with the date then?

That was the idea.

[Nom de ploom]

for me irrespective of the circumstances there is a child missing and in spite of various conjectures and opinions I doubt very much if it was the child's fault she went missing.

for that reason alone, like any missing child case it deserves investigating.