More money to find missing girl

More money to find missing girl

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Rovinghawk

13,300 posts

159 months

Tuesday 13th February 2018
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Tom Logan said:
I've always believed that the truth will emerge one day via a deathbed confession and the only ones to be surprised at the details will be the Met.
They won't be surprised at all, but you have to keep going back to the same place & asking the same questions just in case the answer suddenly is different from when previously asked.

I'm curious as to whether suncream is considered a legitimate expense on these trips.

TheSnitch

2,342 posts

155 months

Tuesday 13th February 2018
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This is a genuine question for anyone with experience in the police or similar.

How unusual is this situation?

It sounds as if the Met are basically conducting door-to-door enquiries, in another country and 11 years too late. I find it difficult to believe they have any promising leads because it would make no sense to still be casting the net so wide.

So as far as we know and please correct me if I am wrong, they have:

No suspects, other than the obvious.
No eyewitnesses
No useful forensics, like the DNA of a perpetrator just waiting for a match.
No CCTV
No confirmed sightings
No motive, other than the obvious.(Incidentally, she was in the least statistically likely group to be abducted; too old for the baby traders, too young for most of the weirdos)

So what normally happens? Will an investigation be parked until and unless something new emerges, or perhaps improved forensic techniques are developed which make it worth revisiting the evidence, or do the investigators keep pursuing more and more tenuous 'leads'?

I can't remember when the Met got involved - 2012? - but it far outstrips the original investigation, both in terms of time and resources. I don't think I would even have a problem with it continuing if there was any real prospect of a breakthrough, but it seems insane, especially if they are travelling to Wales to interview nice retired couples but haven't interviewed the McCanns.


Getragdogleg

8,775 posts

184 months

Tuesday 13th February 2018
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TheSnitch said:
This is a genuine question for anyone with experience in the police or similar.

How unusual is this situation?

It sounds as if the Met are basically conducting door-to-door enquiries, in another country and 11 years too late. I find it difficult to believe they have any promising leads because it would make no sense to still be casting the net so wide.

So as far as we know and please correct me if I am wrong, they have:

No suspects, other than the obvious.
No eyewitnesses
No useful forensics, like the DNA of a perpetrator just waiting for a match.
No CCTV
No confirmed sightings
No motive, other than the obvious.(Incidentally, she was in the least statistically likely group to be abducted; too old for the baby traders, too young for most of the weirdos)

So what normally happens? Will an investigation be parked until and unless something new emerges, or perhaps improved forensic techniques are developed which make it worth revisiting the evidence, or do the investigators keep pursuing more and more tenuous 'leads'?

I can't remember when the Met got involved - 2012? - but it far outstrips the original investigation, both in terms of time and resources. I don't think I would even have a problem with it continuing if there was any real prospect of a breakthrough, but it seems insane, especially if they are travelling to Wales to interview nice retired couples but haven't interviewed the McCanns.
They are still involved because like anyone else with half a brain they know something isn't right with this case.

one day, probably a long time from now the truth will come out.

skwdenyer

16,536 posts

241 months

Tuesday 27th March 2018
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anonymous-user

55 months

Tuesday 27th March 2018
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Operation 'Coppers suntan'

Murph7355

37,761 posts

257 months

Tuesday 27th March 2018
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Getting silly now.

WestyCarl

3,265 posts

126 months

Tuesday 27th March 2018
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I haven't really followed this but can someone explain to me why the continued extra money?

Is Gerry some sort of Head poo-barr in the Masons.......

poo at Paul's

14,153 posts

176 months

Tuesday 27th March 2018
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This is great news. There's no unsolved crime anywhere else in the UK, it's all been sorted and the perps given stiff sentences.
I for one applaud our hardworking permabronzed Police Force, and wish them bon voyage.

Leicester Loyal

4,553 posts

123 months

Tuesday 27th March 2018
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Why aren't her parents paying for this? Probably because they're living a lavish lifestyle in a posh area of Leicester while being mortgage free from all the funds and donations they've received.

Shocking, they should be locked up.

FerdiZ28

1,355 posts

135 months

Tuesday 27th March 2018
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WestyCarl said:
I haven't really followed this but can someone explain to me why the continued extra money?

Is Gerry some sort of Head poo-barr in the Masons.......
What would that have to do with it? Try not to fall off the edge of the Earth.

anonymous-user

55 months

Tuesday 27th March 2018
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Personally 1564K in theses times of great public wealth is nothing.
It should be double , treble even
Its just a grainger of sand in the whole scheme of things

WestyCarl

3,265 posts

126 months

Tuesday 27th March 2018
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FerdiZ28 said:
WestyCarl said:
I haven't really followed this but can someone explain to me why the continued extra money?

Is Gerry some sort of Head poo-barr in the Masons.......
What would that have to do with it? Try not to fall off the edge of the Earth.
It was a joke.

However it does raise the question; why for this one case of a missing girl in a foreign country does the Met keep spending time and money 10yrs later?

V8covin

7,332 posts

194 months

Tuesday 27th March 2018
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It's now £11 million on 1 missing person.
How does that compare to other similar cases, anyone know ?

Gameface

16,565 posts

78 months

Tuesday 27th March 2018
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Yet the police won't go and get a caravan off some pie keys when the owner has done all the detective work for them.

Obviously wasn't sunny enough for them to get off their arses.

BlackLabel

13,251 posts

124 months

Tuesday 27th March 2018
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From last month........

"The parents of Madeleine McCann have nearly £750,000 to help find their daughter - giving them a lifeline if the police hunt is axed next month."

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/madeleine-mc...


They should start funding this themselves, the taxpayer has given them enough - where will it end?

TimeForAZafira

3,702 posts

105 months

Tuesday 27th March 2018
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techiedave said:
Personally 1564K in theses times of great public wealth is nothing.
It should be double , treble even
Its just a grainger of sand in the whole scheme of things
Like this?


yellowjack

17,080 posts

167 months

Tuesday 27th March 2018
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V8covin said:
It's now £11 million on 1 missing person.
How does that compare to other similar cases, anyone know ?
Well that missing airman has had his case passed to the cold case squad, and he's not been missing anywhere near as long...

The Times said:
The search for the missing airman Corrie McKeague will be handed over to a cold-case squad after a 16-month search failed to find him
Ben Needham's case turned up evidence fairly recently to suggest the youngster was killed back when he disappeared, and perhaps not deliberately. So maybe it IS worth pursuing inquiries for decades? https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/ben-needham-...

But for all that you can argue that you "can't put a price on a human life", insurance companies and the NHS do that every single day. And £11 million and counting to find one little girl? It's too much. For all the publicity and effort that's gone into this one case, that money could have gone a long way to investigating far more cases, and likely have got far more conclusive outcomes, closer to home. The farce needs to come to an end now. But it won't because Madeleine Beth McCann was a cute, photogenic little girl with a funny eye. Why she's worth more of anyone's time and money than your missing Aunty Flo, I don't understand. Either the government and police forces need to throw money at ALL missing persons cases, or none. I think it's the inequality that gets people's backs up. That, and the fact that, at the end of the day, if the McCanns had either stayed in with the kids, or hired a proper sitting service, then the poor girl probably wouldn't have gone missing in the first place (...unless you believe that the parents were responsible, in which case that wouldn't have made a blind bit of difference. The fact that they didn't hire a sitter in is evidence enough for some people that the parents knew the girl was missing/dead before they went to dinner, and may well have been responsible. Not my opinion, but it's been published as a theory already) ...one thing's for sure though. If evidence is found that links one or both of her parents to the disappearance, then the public backlash will be immense.

Hopefully this latest tranche of funding will lead to this case getting tied up one way or the other. I'm sick of hearing about it, I've run dry of sympathy for the parents, and Kate McCann (and her accent) annoy me beyond all reason. Sorry if that offends anyone, but that's the truth of it. Time to accept that the investigation has run it's course without conclusion for now, hand it off as a 'cold case' and stop spunking cash on sending British detectives off to sit around swimming pools on the Algarve.

And stories like this... https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/ben-needhams... ...claiming Twitter abuse by "supporters" of the "rival" families over differences in the way the two investigations have been funded and handled? It doesn't do anything to persuade me to be more sympathetic to either family to be totally honest.

Meanwhile, right here, and right now, the Met Police appear to be failing spectacularly in their duty to protect Londoners and their property from feral gangs of moped-riding scumbags. That's actual real live people having to alter their behaviour to avoid the attention of gangs of thieves who are seemingly free to roam the streets of the capital helping themselves as and when they please. If, as is suspected, Ben Needham and Madeleine McCann are already dead, then they aren't going to get any deader. Yet ordinary people in London are having corrosive liquids thrown at them on what seems like a daily basis. Police attention needs to focus on active threats in this country, rather than some imagined and/or historic bogey-man in Greece or Portugal...

WCZ

10,538 posts

195 months

Tuesday 27th March 2018
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BlackLabel said:
They should start funding this themselves, the taxpayer has given them enough - where will it end?
when she/her bones are found

CzechItOut

2,154 posts

192 months

Tuesday 27th March 2018
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is it true that neither of the McCanns or any of the Tapas Seven have been interviewed by the British investigation?

RB Will

9,666 posts

241 months

Tuesday 27th March 2018
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CzechItOut said:
is it true that neither of the McCanns or any of the Tapas Seven have been interviewed by the British investigation?
If they have I haven't heard about it. After initial interviews at the time of the disappearance I think they mostly refused to be involved with it any further, no to a reconstruction or further questioning.
Its a bit frustrating when the most likely suspects and people who should have the best intel are immune from the investigation. I think if they are to receive any more of our hard earned then they should have to agree to a full investigation of themselves to eliminate that possibility first.


I think the support for them is going down at a fair rate, one because people are just bored of it and two because of the resources available on line people are realising just how dodgy they look.

If the parents are not guilty then they are the most suspect looking innocent people ever. The guy from Making a Murderer got put away on much less evidence.