Mandalay Bay shooting
Discussion
The Spruce goose said:
This is what I never get people will try and find anything to disprove something based on pseudo science. i watched the video of the taxi driver who was pretty much beneath the shooter and yes it sounded like 2 shooters, but when you take the context of the tall building and sound bouncing off, all proven acoustic phenomenon.
But someone with too much time on their hands always has to disagree. It was similar to the pentagon 9/11 crash. people said the hole wasn't big enough etc. interestingly they released more photos this year and it was clear it was a jet liner.
I've not seen any newly released photos/footage which clearly shows a jet liner (or a bigger hole)But someone with too much time on their hands always has to disagree. It was similar to the pentagon 9/11 crash. people said the hole wasn't big enough etc. interestingly they released more photos this year and it was clear it was a jet liner.
Got a link to them?
mike74 said:
The Spruce goose said:
This is what I never get people will try and find anything to disprove something based on pseudo science. i watched the video of the taxi driver who was pretty much beneath the shooter and yes it sounded like 2 shooters, but when you take the context of the tall building and sound bouncing off, all proven acoustic phenomenon.
But someone with too much time on their hands always has to disagree. It was similar to the pentagon 9/11 crash. people said the hole wasn't big enough etc. interestingly they released more photos this year and it was clear it was a jet liner.
I've not seen any newly released photos/footage which clearly shows a jet liner (or a bigger hole)But someone with too much time on their hands always has to disagree. It was similar to the pentagon 9/11 crash. people said the hole wasn't big enough etc. interestingly they released more photos this year and it was clear it was a jet liner.
Got a link to them?
Penelope Stoppedit said:
mike74 said:
The Spruce goose said:
This is what I never get people will try and find anything to disprove something based on pseudo science. i watched the video of the taxi driver who was pretty much beneath the shooter and yes it sounded like 2 shooters, but when you take the context of the tall building and sound bouncing off, all proven acoustic phenomenon.
But someone with too much time on their hands always has to disagree. It was similar to the pentagon 9/11 crash. people said the hole wasn't big enough etc. interestingly they released more photos this year and it was clear it was a jet liner.
I've not seen any newly released photos/footage which clearly shows a jet liner (or a bigger hole)But someone with too much time on their hands always has to disagree. It was similar to the pentagon 9/11 crash. people said the hole wasn't big enough etc. interestingly they released more photos this year and it was clear it was a jet liner.
Got a link to them?
http://metro.co.uk/2017/09/11/never-before-seen-pi...
The building was reinforced concrete.
'' A crashing jet doesn't punch a cartoon-like outline of itself into a reinforced concrete building, says ASCE team member Mete Sozen, a professor of structural engineering at Purdue University. In this case, one wing hit the ground; the other was sheared off by the force of the impact with the Pentagon's load-bearing columns, explains Sozen, who specializes in the behavior of concrete buildings. What was left of the plane flowed into the structure in a state closer to a liquid than a solid mass. "If you expected the entire wing to cut into the building," Sozen tells PM, "it didn't happen."''
http://www.popularmechanics.com/military/a5659/deb...
Anyway I don't want to derail the thread i was just pointing out these conspiracy theories are factless and never have the full picture.
The building was reinforced concrete.
'' A crashing jet doesn't punch a cartoon-like outline of itself into a reinforced concrete building, says ASCE team member Mete Sozen, a professor of structural engineering at Purdue University. In this case, one wing hit the ground; the other was sheared off by the force of the impact with the Pentagon's load-bearing columns, explains Sozen, who specializes in the behavior of concrete buildings. What was left of the plane flowed into the structure in a state closer to a liquid than a solid mass. "If you expected the entire wing to cut into the building," Sozen tells PM, "it didn't happen."''
http://www.popularmechanics.com/military/a5659/deb...
Anyway I don't want to derail the thread i was just pointing out these conspiracy theories are factless and never have the full picture.
Edited by The Spruce goose on Sunday 22 October 10:33
Colonial said:
Jesus I never realised there were so many conspiracy idiots on here.
At first it was a surprise to me as well but when you look at how many people follow Infowars over in the US and treat it as gospel it's not a surprise that the same loony mentality has spread to the UK. In the good old days the type of people susceptible to Conspiracy Theories would be winnowed out by lions/tigers/honey badgers out on the grasslands but nowadays H&S keeps them fairly well protected.
Escapegoat said:
Globs said:
https://www.healthnutnews.com/las-vegas-witness-wh...
Upon investigation I have to still conclude that there are no lone gunmen or terrorists, just false flags,
With JFK's documents coming out soon (despite the CIA's bid to keep them secret: some guilt kicking in there) it's interesting to note that a lot of evidence in the Vegas shooting has already been locked down like footage from the casino/hotel, one of the most closely watched places in the world.
The basic rule of thumb appears to be that if the US, UK or EU government say something: assume the opposite is true.
I think you've been probed once too often.Upon investigation I have to still conclude that there are no lone gunmen or terrorists, just false flags,
With JFK's documents coming out soon (despite the CIA's bid to keep them secret: some guilt kicking in there) it's interesting to note that a lot of evidence in the Vegas shooting has already been locked down like footage from the casino/hotel, one of the most closely watched places in the world.
The basic rule of thumb appears to be that if the US, UK or EU government say something: assume the opposite is true.
Globs said:
https://www.healthnutnews.com/las-vegas-witness-wh...
Upon investigation I have to still conclude that there are no lone gunmen or terrorists, just false flags,
With JFK's documents coming out soon (despite the CIA's bid to keep them secret: some guilt kicking in there) it's interesting to note that a lot of evidence in the Vegas shooting has already been locked down like footage from the casino/hotel, one of the most closely watched places in the world.
The basic rule of thumb appears to be that if the US, UK or EU government say something: assume the opposite is true.
Lmao.Upon investigation I have to still conclude that there are no lone gunmen or terrorists, just false flags,
With JFK's documents coming out soon (despite the CIA's bid to keep them secret: some guilt kicking in there) it's interesting to note that a lot of evidence in the Vegas shooting has already been locked down like footage from the casino/hotel, one of the most closely watched places in the world.
The basic rule of thumb appears to be that if the US, UK or EU government say something: assume the opposite is true.
Almost 4 weeks on and we still don’t know the motive of the killer. Usually in cases of mass murder and/or terrorism in the US the authorities are keen to provide us all with regular updates on the case but here there’s very little information being given out which suggests they’re genuinely struggling to find answers.
I would suggest the reason they have said nothing is they know the answers.
Look at our marathon of terrorism this year. Bugger all said about them although as they came so soon after each other its probably a bit of a struggle to put out a coherent story.
Interesting that Vegas shooter had an asian girlfriend in a country with a massive problem with racism of late. I bet he was party to many conversations with people unaware of this the last few years.
Obviously thats no way to react unless you are nuts.
Our westminister attacker was an englishman and grew up in a idyllic kent setting. What events changed him in
his early life? Bit of local harrasment as he was left to his own devices once the family moved away?
Goes a bit nuts and is easy fodder for the isis recruiters.
Look at our marathon of terrorism this year. Bugger all said about them although as they came so soon after each other its probably a bit of a struggle to put out a coherent story.
Interesting that Vegas shooter had an asian girlfriend in a country with a massive problem with racism of late. I bet he was party to many conversations with people unaware of this the last few years.
Obviously thats no way to react unless you are nuts.
Our westminister attacker was an englishman and grew up in a idyllic kent setting. What events changed him in
his early life? Bit of local harrasment as he was left to his own devices once the family moved away?
Goes a bit nuts and is easy fodder for the isis recruiters.
BlackLabel said:
Almost 4 weeks on and we still don’t know the motive of the killer. Usually in cases of mass murder and/or terrorism in the US the authorities are keen to provide us all with regular updates on the case but here there’s very little information being given out which suggests they’re genuinely struggling to find answers.
Like the guy who ran over people in the centre of Melbourne. He used Ice and was basically crazy. There was no other reason. 
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/oct/26/la...
Conspiracy theory nutters attack victims - abuse, calling them crisis actors and the attack never happened!
Conspiracy theory nutters attack victims - abuse, calling them crisis actors and the attack never happened!
Byker28i said:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/oct/26/la...
Conspiracy theory nutters attack victims - abuse, calling them crisis actors and the attack never happened!
Usual MO of conspiracy nutter. They have done the same with other tragic events. Conspiracy theory nutters attack victims - abuse, calling them crisis actors and the attack never happened!
What would be nice is if the hounders become the hounded.
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