Mandalay Bay shooting

[XslaneyX]

Probably something to do with this supposed upcoming Antifa Civil war Takeover on November 4th which they are gobbing off about. All speculation of course.

(tin foil hat on) either that or it's something to do with Soros/Clinton to somehow discredit Trump (Off the hat comes)

[WCZ]

why shoot loads of random people if you hate trump? what good will that do for his cause? why not just try to shoot trump? makes absolutely zero sense..

[130R]

superkartracer said:

Fittster said:

130R said:

superkartracer said:

Sounds like a local nutter that prob purchased the weapons from the local deli .

Despite what people may think you can't just walk into a store in the US and buy an automatic weapon. They are restricted / very expensive. It could be legally held but just as likely illegally modified or illegally obtained.

http://www.wikihow.com/Buy-a-Gun-in-Nevada
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_laws_in_Nevada

Doesn't look that hard.

http://www.philly.com/philly/columnists/helen_ubinas/20160614_Ubinas__I_bought_an_AR-15_semi-automatic_rifle_in_Philly_in_7_minutes.html

Semi automatic is not a machine gun

[WCZ]

130R said:

emi automatic is not a machine gun

what difference does it make? i'm sure you can buy semi automatics that fire very quickly and have large magazines etc
either way it's extremely easy to buy an insanely high powered gun in America

[Gary29]

WCZ said:

why shoot loads of random people if you hate trump? what good will that do for his cause? why not just try to shoot trump? makes absolutely zero sense..

To turn 'the people' against him I'd assume.

Condolences to everyone involved in this, yet another completely messed up scenario.

[Fittster]

WCZ said:

why shoot loads of random people if you hate trump? what good will that do for his cause? why not just try to shoot trump? makes absolutely zero sense..

Why shoot loads of people full stop? Has any mass shooting changed anything, ever? I can see historical arguments for an assassination changing the course of history but killing lots of 'normal people' isn't going to have much impact in the wider view of history.

it's just something people who are angry with society do when they can get their hands on powerful weapons.

[WCZ]

Gary29 said:

To turn 'the people' against him I'd assume.

Condolences to everyone involved in this, yet another completely messed up scenario.

how would this make people turn against trump? I don't understand unless perhaps it's 'trump drove this person to the brink of insanity with his behavior, look what trump made him do!' or something wacky and deluded like that

[Loyly]

gadgetmac said:

Don't know why this is even worthy of news in the UK. How many others will die today in the US from the barrel of a gun?

Meanwhile Sky News considers this more newsworthy to us Brits than 110,000 fellow Brits (friends, family etc) who are stranded abroad. It's their top storey.

You're an idiot. Take your trolling elsewhere.

[superkartracer]

130R said:

superkartracer said:

Fittster said:

130R said:

superkartracer said:

Sounds like a local nutter that prob purchased the weapons from the local deli .

Despite what people may think you can't just walk into a store in the US and buy an automatic weapon. They are restricted / very expensive. It could be legally held but just as likely illegally modified or illegally obtained.

http://www.wikihow.com/Buy-a-Gun-in-Nevada
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_laws_in_Nevada

Doesn't look that hard.

http://www.philly.com/philly/columnists/helen_ubinas/20160614_Ubinas__I_bought_an_AR-15_semi-automatic_rifle_in_Philly_in_7_minutes.html

Semi automatic is not a machine gun

Agreed , only 2-3 rounds a second , nothing to worry about... and not really the point of the post .

[rscott]

Boydie88 said:

sc0tt said:

Unconfirmed but likely

https://www.facebook.com/geary.danley

Likes dozens, upon dozens of pages of lefty nonsense.

IF it's this guy, it's left wing terror.

Although that still says he lives in Arkansas and the sheriff has named the killer as a local resident.
Interesting the police call Marilou Danley the companion of the shooter, not the wife.

Far too soon to jump to any conclusions, based on one Facebook page, I'd say..

[johnxjsc1985]

The womans Husband is being named as the Gunman not sure if this is confirmed as Police have not named him.
Its impossible to understand what this man thought this was going to achieve by this .

[Fittster]

superkartracer said:

130R said:

superkartracer said:

Fittster said:

130R said:

superkartracer said:

Sounds like a local nutter that prob purchased the weapons from the local deli .

Despite what people may think you can't just walk into a store in the US and buy an automatic weapon. They are restricted / very expensive. It could be legally held but just as likely illegally modified or illegally obtained.

http://www.wikihow.com/Buy-a-Gun-in-Nevada
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_laws_in_Nevada

Doesn't look that hard.

http://www.philly.com/philly/columnists/helen_ubinas/20160614_Ubinas__I_bought_an_AR-15_semi-automatic_rifle_in_Philly_in_7_minutes.html

Semi automatic is not a machine gun

Agreed , only 2-3 rounds a second , nothing to worry about... and not really the point of the post .

I do love the way these chats always end up with arguing about definitions of machine gun , assault rifles and the like. Clearly in the US its fairly easy to get your hands on very powerful firearms. The evidence of that is pretty clear.

Has there been a mass shooting in the States where the weapon used couldn't be legally obtained in the country?

Edited by Fittster on Monday 2nd October 10:45

[glazbagun]

Fittster said:

bhstewie said:

Terrible tragic event.

Sadly even @ 20 poor sods dead there is an element of "another US shooting rampage" about it and when as a nation they don't appear to want to confront the gun control issue I have absolutely no idea how you're supposed to prevent it occurring again.

Isn't this just "another US shooting rampage"?

I must admit, when I saw the news my first search was the "America, shooting again?" thread.

[chris watton]

rscott said:

Boydie88 said:

sc0tt said:

Unconfirmed but likely

https://www.facebook.com/geary.danley

Likes dozens, upon dozens of pages of lefty nonsense.

IF it's this guy, it's left wing terror.

Although that still says he lives in Arkansas and the sheriff has named the killer as a local resident.
Interesting the police call Marilou Danley the companion of the shooter, not the wife.

Far too soon to jump to any conclusions, based on one Facebook page, I'd say..

I think you're right in this instance, way too much speculation and amateur sleuthing going on right now.

Another terrible tragedy.

[Oakey]

Fittster said:

superkartracer said:

130R said:

superkartracer said:

Fittster said:

130R said:

superkartracer said:

Sounds like a local nutter that prob purchased the weapons from the local deli .

Despite what people may think you can't just walk into a store in the US and buy an automatic weapon. They are restricted / very expensive. It could be legally held but just as likely illegally modified or illegally obtained.

http://www.wikihow.com/Buy-a-Gun-in-Nevada
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_laws_in_Nevada

Doesn't look that hard.

http://www.philly.com/philly/columnists/helen_ubinas/20160614_Ubinas__I_bought_an_AR-15_semi-automatic_rifle_in_Philly_in_7_minutes.html

Semi automatic is not a machine gun

Agreed , only 2-3 rounds a second , nothing to worry about... and not really the point of the post .

I do love the way these chats always end up with arguing about definitions of machine gun , assault rifles and the like.

Don't forget the other belter; "killer used an illegal firearm" when what they mean is they just helped themselves to their mother's / fathers / brothers gun because of ease of access

[Halmyre]

WCZ said:

130R said:

emi automatic is not a machine gun

what difference does it make? i'm sure you can buy semi automatics that fire very quickly and have large magazines etc
either way it's extremely easy to buy an insanely high powered gun in America

Too late, the focus of the topic has started to shift and we'll now have 20 pages of discussion about the correct definition of 'assault rifle' and why the AR-15 isn't one and so on and so on.

[Disastrous]

gadgetmac said:

Yes I do. Old aged relatives not knowing how they'll get home is FAR more important to me and others than some EVERYDAY occurence in the US.

None of my relatives are cheap enough to fly with Monarch so if it's ok with you, I'll be more concerned with the horrific loss of life in Las Vegas thanks...

[selym]

gadgetmac said:

OK with just 2 people dead at the time it was just another day stateside and my argument stood.

With 20+ dead clearly its different.

So two people dying is not as important as getting a flight home on time, but 20+ is.....ooooookkkkk. Talk about a lack of grip on reality.

[gadgetmac]

Disastrous said:

gadgetmac said:

Yes I do. Old aged relatives not knowing how they'll get home is FAR more important to me and others than some EVERYDAY occurence in the US.

None of my relatives are cheap enough to fly with Monarch

Now with the personal insults

Edited by mogs.mod on Monday 2nd October 15:53

[andy_s]

selym said:

gadgetmac said:

OK with just 2 people dead at the time it was just another day stateside and my argument stood.

With 20+ dead clearly its different.

So two people dying is not as important as getting a flight home on time, but 20+ is.....ooooookkkkk. Talk about a lack of grip on reality.

Reality involves reading a few pages up, you'll see he made the comment before the toll was announced and retracted what he said.

Still a strange comment but then again no one in the UK is too much bothered about the continual and far worse atrocities going on daily in places which used to be within our attention span but are no longer.

The press' priorities with stories shouldn't be conflated with the importance or relevance of those stories.

But as said earlier - gadgetmac has hung up his spade, let's move on.

ETA, or not, as the case may be....