Transgender passports
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I'm not one to get riled over this but surely not.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/article/41567449/why...
Surely you are a male or a female. Nothing else?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/article/41567449/why...
Surely you are a male or a female. Nothing else?
pFunkycoldribena said:
Tom Logan said:
There is no hope for the human race.
We truly are heading down a giant cesspit of bulls
t correctness.It doesn't really matter whether someone puts M or F on their passport, it does nothing to confirm someones identity at the level to which most people use it.
I've seen some extremely girly looking men and some very manly looking women.
As for the "prison" question raised above - that'll be down to the laws of whichever country you have broken to end up in that situation.
More of this ridiculous horsest. A passport is an identity document, it's purpose is to detail all of the identifying features about you, whether you have dingleberries or curtains is a fairly fundamental identifying feature. I'd like to think that common sense will prevail but these days I wouldn't bet on it, for some reason these muppets seem to be making considerable headway forcing their delusions on everyone else.
t. A passport is an identity document, it's purpose is to detail all of the identifying features about you, whether you have dingleberries or curtains is a fairly fundamental identifying feature. I'd like to think that common sense will prevail but these days I wouldn't bet on it, for some reason these muppets seem to be making considerable headway forcing their delusions on everyone else.Mia, 28, from Dorset, came out as transgender around two years ago.
She told Newsbeat: "Initially, I identified as non-binary. I didn't see myself as fully female or fully male, I was kind of in the middle.
"Over time, I've become more comfortable with using female to describe myself. But it was very awkward and uncomfortable in that time because there was basically no way to select a gender that felt like mine."
FFS.
What's really bizarre is that he's actually managed to get his passport changed to 'female'! Just because he's decided that that's what he'd like to be now.
This whole 'gender' thing needs scrapping and the term sex using. Male or female.
Gender is a bit like religion - call yourself what you like, be what you want, just don't expect other people to make special allowances for it.
She told Newsbeat: "Initially, I identified as non-binary. I didn't see myself as fully female or fully male, I was kind of in the middle.
"Over time, I've become more comfortable with using female to describe myself. But it was very awkward and uncomfortable in that time because there was basically no way to select a gender that felt like mine."
FFS.
What's really bizarre is that he's actually managed to get his passport changed to 'female'! Just because he's decided that that's what he'd like to be now.
This whole 'gender' thing needs scrapping and the term sex using. Male or female.
Gender is a bit like religion - call yourself what you like, be what you want, just don't expect other people to make special allowances for it.
sc0tt said:
I'm not one to get riled over this but surely not.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/article/41567449/why...
Surely you are a male or a female. Nothing else?
This websitehttp://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/article/41567449/why...
Surely you are a male or a female. Nothing else?
http://www.isna.org/faq/frequency
tells me that 1 in 100 people born have non standard genitalia, and in 1 in 1500 cases experts have to be called in to determine gender at birth. That means something like 40,000 people in the UK needed this specialist attention. Genetically 1 in 1600 are neither XX or XY.
These are all physiological distinctions of course. As people grow up sexuality becomes subject to non physiological identification of an individual's gender.
That's a lot of people.
Some of the responses above show a lack of awareness of the complexity of human biology.
Randy Winkman said:
Is it just men that get annoyed about this stuff? I wonder if some women do too? My guess is that a few do, but not so many.
Maybe have a look at Mumsnet? But don't blame me if it leaves you mentally scarred, craving the bastion of sanity and liberality that is the PH N, P & E forum.Roofless Toothless said:
This website
http://www.isna.org/faq/frequency
tells me that 1 in 100 people born have non standard genitalia, and in 1 in 1500 cases experts have to be called in to determine gender at birth. That means something like 40,000 people in the UK needed this specialist attention. Genetically 1 in 1600 are neither XX or XY.
These are all physiological distinctions of course. As people grow up sexuality becomes subject to non physiological identification of an individual's gender.
That's a lot of people.
Some of the responses above show a lack of awareness of the complexity of human biology.
Interesting website.http://www.isna.org/faq/frequency
tells me that 1 in 100 people born have non standard genitalia, and in 1 in 1500 cases experts have to be called in to determine gender at birth. That means something like 40,000 people in the UK needed this specialist attention. Genetically 1 in 1600 are neither XX or XY.
These are all physiological distinctions of course. As people grow up sexuality becomes subject to non physiological identification of an individual's gender.
That's a lot of people.
Some of the responses above show a lack of awareness of the complexity of human biology.
Humans (today, typically doctors) decide how small a penis has to be, or how unusual a combination of parts has to be, before it counts as intersex.
See, call me old fashioned, but having a tiny todger just makes you a bloke with a tiny todger.
Ari said:
Interesting website.
Humans (today, typically doctors) decide how small a penis has to be, or how unusual a combination of parts has to be, before it counts as intersex.
See, call me old fashioned, but having a tiny todger just makes you a bloke with a tiny todger.
Or a bird with a large clitoris (esp if vagina present)Humans (today, typically doctors) decide how small a penis has to be, or how unusual a combination of parts has to be, before it counts as intersex.
See, call me old fashioned, but having a tiny todger just makes you a bloke with a tiny todger.
This issue seems to be manifesting itself in the UK right now but how it is in other parts of the world ? It's going to be a struggle to get off a plane in a large percentage of the worlds airports and try to enter that country without being male or female - it's not going to end well in some places
Ari said:
Interesting website.
Humans (today, typically doctors) decide how small a penis has to be, or how unusual a combination of parts has to be, before it counts as intersex.
See, call me old fashioned, but having a tiny todger just makes you a bloke with a tiny todger.
I do not identify as being human. Although I do have a todger. Therefore I want a new special passport, otherwise I will sue you all to hell Humans (today, typically doctors) decide how small a penis has to be, or how unusual a combination of parts has to be, before it counts as intersex.
See, call me old fashioned, but having a tiny todger just makes you a bloke with a tiny todger.
Shakermaker said:
Well no, we aren't.
It doesn't really matter whether someone puts M or F on their passport, it does nothing to confirm someones identity at the level to which most people use it.
I've seen some extremely girly looking men and some very manly looking women.
As for the "prison" question raised above - that'll be down to the laws of whichever country you have broken to end up in that situation.
Yes we are.It doesn't really matter whether someone puts M or F on their passport, it does nothing to confirm someones identity at the level to which most people use it.
I've seen some extremely girly looking men and some very manly looking women.
As for the "prison" question raised above - that'll be down to the laws of whichever country you have broken to end up in that situation.
Thanks to the wet drips of society I can now identify myself as a badger.
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