Sally Jones (white widow) killed by drone,
Discussion
SeeFive said:
I disagree. A statement was made of opinion that the lad was a risk going forward, whether his fault or not. His mum mistakenly expected him to be a human shield despite the fact that he is already a proven killer for the cause despite his age. Folks on here expressed that his death was justified. You thought different and was the first who played the man, not the ball with your insults.
Where has it been proven that the lad is/was a proven killer?
As for BV being the first with insults, I think you'll find that was down to the muppet who classed anyone who didn't realise techidave was attempting to be humourus as Assholes.
gooner1 said:
Where has it been proven that the lad is/was a proven killer?
As for BV being the first with insults, I think you'll find that was down to the muppet who classed anyone who didn't realise techidave was attempting to be humourus as Assholes.
What does the "techiedave asshole" insult have to do with the matter of those who expressed a different view to Breadvan on the small terrorist's demise and got personally insulted by him? I was not involved in that other discussion but am in this one.
Anyway, waste of time. It is clear to see what went on. I do not want to keep labouring the point at BV's expense, he is normally quite rational. Back to topic.
SeeFive said:
Well, as not publicised on the television reports into the poor child's death, there is a video of the small terrorist ceremonially shooting a guy in the back of the head. A still was posted on this thread.
What does the "techiedave asshole" insult have to do with the matter of those who expressed a different view to Breadvan on the small terrorist's demise and got personally insulted by him? I was not involved in that other discussion but am in this one.
Anyway, waste of time. It is clear to see what went on. I do not want to keep labouring the point at BV's expense, he is normally quite rational. Back to topic.
I see,so insults are only valid when they oppose your PoV..What does the "techiedave asshole" insult have to do with the matter of those who expressed a different view to Breadvan on the small terrorist's demise and got personally insulted by him? I was not involved in that other discussion but am in this one.
Anyway, waste of time. It is clear to see what went on. I do not want to keep labouring the point at BV's expense, he is normally quite rational. Back to topic.
As to the ceremonious shooting by the child, you have personally viewed this ,right?
gooner1 said:
I see,so insults are only valid when they oppose your PoV..
As to the ceremonious shooting by the child, you have personally viewed this ,right?
You see wrong. I only respond to them when they are in opposition to something I have said, or personally relevant to me. Noting to do with my POV, that is called debate. Anyway, in what way is that specific discussion (which would be finished now if not for you) relevant to you personally?As to the ceremonious shooting by the child, you have personally viewed this ,right?
Video. Have you seen it? I suggest you do to complete the picture of the young deceased terrorist which is not being portrayed in the general media, and how others with a full picture could see him.
Edited by SeeFive on Saturday 14th October 13:56
SeeFive said:
gooner1 said:
I see,so insults are only valid when they oppose your PoV..
As to the ceremonious shooting by the child, you have personally viewed this ,right?
Have you?As to the ceremonious shooting by the child, you have personally viewed this ,right?
Breadvan72 said:
Stickyfinger said:
Oh get a life.....no one is "crowing"....just saying it/he is a lost cause due to his mental mother.....as such the resulting action was required, regrettable but none the less required.........
I see that you are one of those who responds with anger and insult to views he does not agree with. Poor angry you.As for necessary, yep, in the car with his mental mother, so yes, necessary he died so as to strike the mother. Regrettable, yes, as he was a kid, acceptable yes, as he had become (most likely) like his mother.
So, after that I still say....get a life.
I understand and feel the pain of the people who mourn the death of this woman and her well adjusted son. Both of them could have made a valuable and lasting contribution to our country had they been allowed to surrender. Instead we have summary execution by someone who following orders killed them as if they were common terrorists.
I propose that a fund raising page be set up and that a memorial bench be erected in her memory. This would be best set in her adopted town of Chatham. An ideal spot for it would be outside the Pentagon shopping centre on Chatham High Street. It would be ideal if it was facing away from the shopping centre. That would be a lasting memorial to this bright woman. As she turned her back on our American influenced culture and trod her own path. Facing away from the American named shopping centre would make a silent dignified representation of her rejection of Western values.
I propose that a fund raising page be set up and that a memorial bench be erected in her memory. This would be best set in her adopted town of Chatham. An ideal spot for it would be outside the Pentagon shopping centre on Chatham High Street. It would be ideal if it was facing away from the shopping centre. That would be a lasting memorial to this bright woman. As she turned her back on our American influenced culture and trod her own path. Facing away from the American named shopping centre would make a silent dignified representation of her rejection of Western values.
techiedave said:
I understand and feel the pain of the people who mourn the death of this woman and her well adjusted son. Both of them could have made a valuable and lasting contribution to our country had they been allowed to surrender. Instead we have summary execution by someone who following orders killed them as if they were common terrorists.
I propose that a fund raising page be set up and that a memorial bench be erected in her memory. This would be best set in her adopted town of Chatham. An ideal spot for it would be outside the Pentagon shopping centre on Chatham High Street. It would be ideal if it was facing away from the shopping centre. That would be a lasting memorial to this bright woman. As she turned her back on our American influenced culture and trod her own path. Facing away from the American named shopping centre would make a silent dignified representation of her rejection of Western values.
I propose that a fund raising page be set up and that a memorial bench be erected in her memory. This would be best set in her adopted town of Chatham. An ideal spot for it would be outside the Pentagon shopping centre on Chatham High Street. It would be ideal if it was facing away from the shopping centre. That would be a lasting memorial to this bright woman. As she turned her back on our American influenced culture and trod her own path. Facing away from the American named shopping centre would make a silent dignified representation of her rejection of Western values.
Fermit The Krog and Sexy Sarah said:
Another angle, had the boy not been killed - and I think it's pretty bloody obvious he was radicalised, and likely a killer.
Say mummy was killed, and he wasn't, what are the odds that he wouldn't spend the rest of his days avenging her death?
Good riddance to evil trash I say.
How can a 12 year old boy who has been brain washed be "evil trash"?Say mummy was killed, and he wasn't, what are the odds that he wouldn't spend the rest of his days avenging her death?
Good riddance to evil trash I say.
Tough one.
At 12 he should know that beheading / executing another human being is wrong.
But - I would expect that if he did not - he would be up for the chop next.
Would I stop the drone strike because he was there?
No. 1000 times no.
ISIS need to know - that there is nowhere on this planet there are safe.
If you are ISIS - you will be wiped off this planet PDQ.
At 12 he should know that beheading / executing another human being is wrong.
But - I would expect that if he did not - he would be up for the chop next.
Would I stop the drone strike because he was there?
No. 1000 times no.
ISIS need to know - that there is nowhere on this planet there are safe.
If you are ISIS - you will be wiped off this planet PDQ.
h wiped out, tick.Pistom said:
Breadvan72 said:
How can a 12 year old boy who has been brain washed be "evil trash"?
Because he has been seen to be killing people in an abhorrent manner. He may have become evil through being brain washed or was just evil anyway but either way, his acts were evil.However to condemn her son as an evil toerag as he has behaved in the fashion taught to him by his parent.
Whilst viewing the adult drone operators who decided to kill a 12 year old as heroic.
Really?
Do you suppose that a 12 year old gets to be a murderer by accident? Or that he was born a murderer? The woman took the child off to the Islamofascists when he was some years younger than 12. The fact that he was turned into a murderer is part of the tragedy. He was another victim of the death cult. Terror armies in Africa have child soldiers - or slave soldiers to give them another name, and in WW2 Hitler youth members engaged in combat and committed atrocities. You can warp children to do terrible things if you get them young enough.
Edited by anonymous-user on Sunday 15th October 07:06
Once he had become a multiple murderer by the age of 12, is there really a significant chance of reform? A chance better than the chance of him murdering more people later before he could be captured? Especially once he had a 'martyr' for a mother.
It's absolutely tragic, but he was both dangerous and a combatant, so to my mind if he was targeted along with his mother that would be justifiable, unless you take the view that any targeting of individuals by drone is unacceptable. That's a different debate.
It's absolutely tragic, but he was both dangerous and a combatant, so to my mind if he was targeted along with his mother that would be justifiable, unless you take the view that any targeting of individuals by drone is unacceptable. That's a different debate.
irocfan said:
techiedave said:
I understand and feel the pain of the people who mourn the death of this woman and her well adjusted son. Both of them could have made a valuable and lasting contribution to our country had they been allowed to surrender. Instead we have summary execution by someone who following orders killed them as if they were common terrorists.
I propose that a fund raising page be set up and that a memorial bench be erected in her memory. This would be best set in her adopted town of Chatham. An ideal spot for it would be outside the Pentagon shopping centre on Chatham High Street. It would be ideal if it was facing away from the shopping centre. That would be a lasting memorial to this bright woman. As she turned her back on our American influenced culture and trod her own path. Facing away from the American named shopping centre would make a silent dignified representation of her rejection of Western values.
I propose that a fund raising page be set up and that a memorial bench be erected in her memory. This would be best set in her adopted town of Chatham. An ideal spot for it would be outside the Pentagon shopping centre on Chatham High Street. It would be ideal if it was facing away from the shopping centre. That would be a lasting memorial to this bright woman. As she turned her back on our American influenced culture and trod her own path. Facing away from the American named shopping centre would make a silent dignified representation of her rejection of Western values.
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