Harvey Weinstein

[FredericRobinson]

Being a sex pest seems to be a much worse thing in a film producer than a President

[glazbagun]

Sheets Tabuer said:

filski666 said:

I must have been living under a rock - never heard of this guy, still don't know what he does apart from being some bigwig in hollywood...

Same here, now he's plastered everywhere and the media are reporting it like the most important thing ever mind you they do love a story about themselves.

If it's any conciliation, I feel this way whenever a footballer is in the news, but I did know who Harvey Weinstein was and why it was a big deal.

[Smiler.]

Nanook said:

I find it rather hypocritical that Rose McGowan has been on Twitter saying things like:

"This is the girl that was hurt by a monster. This is who you are shaming with your silence." whilst posting a picture of her younger self, as well as:

"Ladies of Hollywood, your silence is deafening."

Whilst keeping quiet about the fact that instead of speaking up about it at the time, she apparently took $100k of his money to keep quiet.

Even if she didn't take his money, she's known for 20+years, and hasn't said anything, to now start 'shaming' people that aren't doing displaying their outrage on social media.

I read in an article that Lena Dunham claimed she had known about Weinstein but had kept quiet as he was promoting or donating at a fundraiser for Hillary Clinton, her excuse was that she really wanted to support her candidate. Mind you, she has "form" for nefarious dealings I think.

Also, I find it hard to believe that Obama knew nothing of this. Their "friendship" would surely have been vetted by the security services & anything iffy investigated/reported.

[Dromedary66]

Nanook said:

I find it rather hypocritical that Rose McGowan has been on Twitter saying things like:

"This is the girl that was hurt by a monster. This is who you are shaming with your silence." whilst posting a picture of her younger self, as well as:

"Ladies of Hollywood, your silence is deafening."

Whilst keeping quiet about the fact that instead of speaking up about it at the time, she apparently took $100k of his money to keep quiet.

Even if she didn't take his money, she's known for 20+years, and hasn't said anything, to now start 'shaming' people that aren't doing displaying their outrage on social media.

This is exactly my thoughts as well. Absolute hypocrite.

[glazbagun]

Nanook said:

I find it rather hypocritical that Rose McGowan has been on Twitter saying things like:

"This is the girl that was hurt by a monster. This is who you are shaming with your silence." whilst posting a picture of her younger self, as well as:

"Ladies of Hollywood, your silence is deafening."

Whilst keeping quiet about the fact that instead of speaking up about it at the time, she apparently took $100k of his money to keep quiet.

Even if she didn't take his money, she's known for 20+years, and hasn't said anything, to now start 'shaming' people that aren't doing displaying their outrage on social media.

I think it's an understandable emotional reaction, but you're right, she's basically accusing everyone of doing what she herself has done for 20 years.

I imagine many a musician and actress has done things they'd rather not and accepted it as the price to pay in a corrupt world, if you're a millionaire and have a great life then maybe you can get over it easier than if you had a chance but never made it.

[CAPP0]

For me, one of the most surprising things about this whole debacle is how quickly it's gone from "Harvey who, did what?" to him being sacked, left by his wife, and disowned by all manner of organisations. What's it been since the story broke? 4 days? 5?

I guess the fact that he has admitted part of it has accelerated some actions, but still.

[Thankyou4calling]

Is it even possible to work in a reasonable capacity in the entertainment industry without using your influence in this way?

[anonymous-user]

Nanook said:

I find it rather hypocritical that Rose McGowan has been on Twitter saying things like:

"This is the girl that was hurt by a monster. This is who you are shaming with your silence." whilst posting a picture of her younger self, as well as:

"Ladies of Hollywood, your silence is deafening."

Whilst keeping quiet about the fact that instead of speaking up about it at the time, she apparently took $100k of his money to keep quiet.

Even if she didn't take his money, she's known for 20+years, and hasn't said anything, to now start 'shaming' people that aren't doing displaying their outrage on social media.

That assumes that she had a choice before accepting the money. Weinstein probably had the means to destroy her career and could have used that as leverage to get her (and many others) to accept settlement deals/sign NDA’s.

[glazbagun]

CAPP0 said:

For me, one of the most surprising things about this whole debacle is how quickly it's gone from "Harvey who, did what?" to him being sacked, left by his wife, and disowned by all manner of organisations. What's it been since the story broke? 4 days? 5?

I guess the fact that he has admitted part of it has accelerated some actions, but still.

If you read the old Saville thread, there's a lot of "I don't believe it" comments from people who couldn't believe that Sir Jimmy Savile OBE, that eccentric and lovable TV presenter from their childhood could have been one of the biggest sex pests in the country. I suspect that when the news broke over Harvey Weinstein, there weren't many who knew him who thought it was that far-fetched.

[Tankrizzo]

Sadly, I have long assumed there was a "casting couch" element to getting in a film run by some of the major Hollywood producers.

[Gargamel]

Thankyou4calling said:

Is it even possible to work in a reasonable capacity in the entertainment industry without using your influence in this way?

wait ... what ?

Are you suggesting that all film execs, director and producers sleep with the talent ?

Please don't be absurd.

Steven Spielberg, Clint Eastwood etc..

There are affairs, mistakes, on location romances for sure. But this is abuse we are talking about.

[Murph7355]

cookie118 said:

That assumes that she had a choice before accepting the money. Weinstein probably had the means to destroy her career and could have used that as leverage to get her (and many others) to accept settlement deals/sign NDA’s.

Is that a good enough excuse? Especially if rape was involved/suspected?

[Thankyou4calling]

Gargamel said:

wait ... what ?

Are you suggesting that all film execs, director and producers sleep with the talent ?

Please don't be absurd.

Steven Spielberg, Clint Eastwood etc..

There are affairs, mistakes, on location romances for sure. But this is abuse we are talking about.

I don't know I'm just asking the question.

[jshell]

Countdown said:

Shakermaker said:

I am surprised this hasn't come out sooner, now that I am reading about it.

Reminds me of what people were saying about Jimmy Saville and Cyril Smith.

You mean like the John Lydon statements about Saville back in the 70's? Decades of the BBC saying: We didn't know!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rjy8oLVOvi4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esKnWAIgpLY

[easytiger123]

There's a tiny part of me that wants him to be completely exonerated just so we can then witness some of these Hollywood halfwits who praised him to the heavens and are now throwing themselves on the bandwagon of condemning him, have to re-eat their words and start singing his praises again in a fawning attempt to get cast in his next film. These people are so self-serving and spineless they could be in the current Cabinet.

[deckster]

Gargamel said:

wait ... what ?

Are you suggesting that all film execs, director and producers sleep with the talent ?

Please don't be absurd.

Steven Spielberg, Clint Eastwood etc..

There are affairs, mistakes, on location romances for sure. But this is abuse we are talking about.

'All' is pretty strong I agree. But it's been an open secret for decades so don't pretend that it's not widespread.

What will be interesting will be to see how far this goes to get the industry to clean itself up - or whether they just hang Weinstein out to dry and then close ranks again.

[tankplanker]

CAPP0 said:

For me, one of the most surprising things about this whole debacle is how quickly it's gone from "Harvey who, did what?" to him being sacked, left by his wife, and disowned by all manner of organisations. What's it been since the story broke? 4 days? 5?

I guess the fact that he has admitted part of it has accelerated some actions, but still.

I suspect due to his status he was told in advance that the story would be printed by the New York Times (they may even have tried to interview him for his side) so had time to prepare the people around him. If he was as bad as they say then I'd be highly surprised the people close to him weren't aware, as reported his actions hardly seem discrete.

[Frybywire]

FredericRobinson said:

Being a sex pest seems to be a much worse thing in a film producer than a President

Indeed.

[AJL308]

deckster said:

Gargamel said:

wait ... what ?

Are you suggesting that all film execs, director and producers sleep with the talent ?

Please don't be absurd.

Steven Spielberg, Clint Eastwood etc..

There are affairs, mistakes, on location romances for sure. But this is abuse we are talking about.

'All' is pretty strong I agree. But it's been an open secret for decades so don't pretend that it's not widespread.

What will be interesting will be to see how far this goes to get the industry to clean itself up - or whether they just hang Weinstein out to dry and then close ranks again.

It's gone on since, forever, and probably before the motion picture industry existed.

There was a documentary on a few weeks back about Natalie Wood. In it it was mentioned that when she was about 15, or so, she was very violently beaten, probably drugged and repeatedly raped in a hotel suite by an extremely well known actor and producer who is still alive. It was suggested that even her mother was complicit in it after the fact. These were allegations made by her sister who says she'll reveal who it was when he dies.

It is apparently a fairly open secret and even the way in which the documentary was edited gave a pretty good clue as to who the guy was.

[hyphen]

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