Harvey Weinstein
Discussion
John145 said:
Curious, there seems to be a theme developing here. It goes like this "that's how it's always been therefore it's fine and I'm sure everyone is having a good time."
Truly deranged and thankfully a mindset that is being left behind.
Yep. There's a lot about the internet and modern media that I'm frankly terrified about, but one good thing about it is that people who've been victims of rich and powerful pervs now have a chance at grouping together and screaming from the rooftops in a way that would never have been possible in the 70's.Truly deranged and thankfully a mindset that is being left behind.
That said, it didn't stop Trump from being democratically voted into the top job in the country, so maybe we're not that enlightened after all.
fblm said:
John145 said:
Curious, there seems to be a theme developing here. It goes like this "that's how it's always been therefore it's fine and I'm sure everyone is having a good time."
Quote someone who has said or implied that. said:
Bonkers isn’t it
It’s been going on since god was a boy.
I guess next week it’ll be ‘70s rockstar lived with underage girl’ shocker
It’s been going on since god was a boy.
I guess next week it’ll be ‘70s rockstar lived with underage girl’ shocker
said:
I too always thought this was regular Hollywood behaviour.
It could also be possible that Hollywood treated it as an open secret if this 45 second clip from Team America (2004) is anything to go by - https://youtu.be/2ZwtNAHy7z0
I also assumed it was well known this is how Tara Reid used to get work (allegedly)
Also Denise Richards, ex Heidi Fleiss escort girl.. wonder how she got her roles? (Allegedly)
It could also be possible that Hollywood treated it as an open secret if this 45 second clip from Team America (2004) is anything to go by - https://youtu.be/2ZwtNAHy7z0
I also assumed it was well known this is how Tara Reid used to get work (allegedly)
Also Denise Richards, ex Heidi Fleiss escort girl.. wonder how she got her roles? (Allegedly)
John145 said:
Well don't write tripe that implies it then.
That’s the thing, it’s not tripe. I am in no way condoning rape/underage sex/sexual assault etc and if any of those are proven then I agree it’s very serious and should be dealt with accordingly.Jimmy Saville abused kids who were sometimes in a vegative state/underage and was a very very sick man, and we know he wasn’t the only one to do this.
Weinstein has used his power and influence to convince women to do things they wouldn’t usually do, because these women thought they would get something out of it. Some said no, some said yes. I this is a two way street to some extent.
Some people could have the opinion that this is no different to the 21 y/o gold diggers who marry an 80 year old rich man - at best it’s a mutually beneficial relationship, at worst it’s two sleazy people using each other for their own selfish ends.
Edited by thatsprettyshady on Thursday 12th October 22:15
Ayahuasca said:
If the evidence against Weinstein is so overwhelming, why has he not been charged with anything?
Likely that he will, but as it has only just came to light, it will take time for investigations to take place.Weinstein will have powerful friends, and he will also know where a lot of other peoples skeletons are.Powerful men coercing less powerful women into sexual encounters - it stinks. The phrase 'it's been going on for years' is a bit sickening as it seems to condone it somehow.
Most of us can't imagine what it might be like to be in a threatening situation with a man who could easily physically overpower us, or to be so scared about having a career ruined at the outset - or, as in this story, both of those things.
Assuming these stories are true, he will hopefully be charged and his career will be finished. Deservedly so.
Most of us can't imagine what it might be like to be in a threatening situation with a man who could easily physically overpower us, or to be so scared about having a career ruined at the outset - or, as in this story, both of those things.
Assuming these stories are true, he will hopefully be charged and his career will be finished. Deservedly so.
Trump was right.
Hollywood is a swamp.
Funny to watch the liberal maniacs over the years twisting themselves in knots about liberal perverts like Weinstein and Bill Clinton.
Perhaps the most interesting part is how so many women and men are now only speaking out about the abuse after their careers have taken off or retired. All the stuff about NDAs, which still exist, is just a smokescreen. There's a lot of hypocrisy and double-facing from actresses and actors.
Nobody looks good.
Hollywood is a swamp.
Funny to watch the liberal maniacs over the years twisting themselves in knots about liberal perverts like Weinstein and Bill Clinton.
Perhaps the most interesting part is how so many women and men are now only speaking out about the abuse after their careers have taken off or retired. All the stuff about NDAs, which still exist, is just a smokescreen. There's a lot of hypocrisy and double-facing from actresses and actors.
Nobody looks good.
Oakey said:
Do keep up;
https://www.theguardian.com/film/2017/oct/11/actor...
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/corey-feldma...
Quite.https://www.theguardian.com/film/2017/oct/11/actor...
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/corey-feldma...
It's possibly, a worse problem.
Yipper said:
Trump was right.
Hollywood is a swamp.
Funny to watch the liberal maniacs over the years twisting themselves in knots about liberal perverts like Weinstein and Bill Clinton.
Perhaps the most interesting part is how so many women and men are now only speaking out about the abuse after their careers have taken off or retired. All the stuff about NDAs, which still exist, is just a smokescreen. There's a lot of hypocrisy and double-facing from actresses and actors.
Nobody looks good.
Is that Donald "Pussy-Grabber" Trump's opinion you are lauding?Hollywood is a swamp.
Funny to watch the liberal maniacs over the years twisting themselves in knots about liberal perverts like Weinstein and Bill Clinton.
Perhaps the most interesting part is how so many women and men are now only speaking out about the abuse after their careers have taken off or retired. All the stuff about NDAs, which still exist, is just a smokescreen. There's a lot of hypocrisy and double-facing from actresses and actors.
Nobody looks good.
Tankrizzo said:
Eric Mc said:
I see the "It's all the victims' fault" brigade have re-emerged.
Don't be so bloody hysterical. Nobody is saying that.Hopefully, times are changing and people are realising that those who have power and influence, sometimes use that power and influence in a despicable way.
Eric Mc said:
Hopefully, times are changing and people are realising that those who have power and influence, sometimes use that power and influence in a despicable way.
I think most people realise that times have not changed, there have always been, and will always be corruption and abuse of powers.Those who think times are changing are in for a disappointment, this is one scandal that will soon be followed by another elsewhere. This bloke appears to only have gone down due his brother's need to overthrow him and leaking critical information, without that he would have carried on till his death probably.
Eric Mc said:
Tankrizzo said:
Eric Mc said:
I see the "It's all the victims' fault" brigade have re-emerged.
Don't be so bloody hysterical. Nobody is saying that.Hopefully, times are changing and people are realising that those who have power and influence, sometimes use that power and influence in a despicable way.
hyphen said:
I think most people realise that times have not changed, there have always been, and will always be corruption and abuse of powers.
Those who think times are changing are in for a disappointment, this is one scandal that will soon be followed by another elsewhere. This bloke appears to only have gone down due his brother's need to overthrow him and leaking critical information, without that he would have carried on till his death probably.
Despicable people will always exist. All we can hope for is that their behaviour will be less ignored in future. Those who think times are changing are in for a disappointment, this is one scandal that will soon be followed by another elsewhere. This bloke appears to only have gone down due his brother's need to overthrow him and leaking critical information, without that he would have carried on till his death probably.
Have a sneaking feeling that a few of the accusers situations may have gone a lot further than they are claiming. Nobody will admit to sleeping with this guy out of fear/to save/boost their career as it's a terrible career move. He also isn't going to call them out for not telling the whole story at this point either.
Sadly widespread occurrence not just in film but in fashion too. Lots of photographers walking the streets who need locking up out there too. I know of a few cases where models have had things slipped into their drinks during their shoots, quite awful as they don't realise what's going on until it's too late. Same thing, people in positions of influence taking advantage or starry eyed girls (and guys) who don't want to upset anyone and lose their job.
Sadly widespread occurrence not just in film but in fashion too. Lots of photographers walking the streets who need locking up out there too. I know of a few cases where models have had things slipped into their drinks during their shoots, quite awful as they don't realise what's going on until it's too late. Same thing, people in positions of influence taking advantage or starry eyed girls (and guys) who don't want to upset anyone and lose their job.
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