Self taught rocket builder launching himself

Self taught rocket builder launching himself

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julian64

14,317 posts

255 months

Tuesday 28th November 2017
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Tango13 said:
Most rockets are steam powered one way or another.

High test peroxide is dissolved over a catalyst to provide very high pressure steam.

The steam is then used to drive impellors connected to the fuel pumps.

Another way is to mix the superheated steam with a suitable fuel which will combust in the rocket chamber to provide thrust.
Is that actually true. I don't think it is.
Peroxide is an oxygen source within which you can burn almost anything. It simply supplies oxygen for burning a substrate in the rocket. You don't burn steam, its oxygen + whatever you want to use as a high gas yield substrate

Eric Mc

122,053 posts

266 months

Tuesday 28th November 2017
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Propellant needs to be squirted into the combustion chambers of a rocket. In some rockets (usually smaller ones), the propellant is squirted into the chamber by the simple device of pressurising the propellant tanks using a neutral gas - such as helium or nitrogen. That was the technique used on early versions of the XLR11 engines used on the Bell X-1.

For larger engines with bigger propellant tanks, a turbopump system is usually used. In order to spin up the turbopump, you need to pass a high speed gas exhaust through the turbine vanes. This high pressure gas flow can be achieved a number of ways - one of which is described above.

If you listen carefully to a Shuttle launch, about six seconds before main engine ignition you can hear the "whee" noise as the turbines spin up from zero rpm to about 28,000 rpm.

anonymous-user

55 months

Tuesday 28th November 2017
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3vcSab13Sk

The lady at the end is superb.

laugh


Boosted LS1

21,188 posts

261 months

Tuesday 28th November 2017
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Lol, she can't operate a straight edge.

julian64

14,317 posts

255 months

Tuesday 28th November 2017
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Boosted LS1 said:
Lol, she can't operate a straight edge.
She is however believable, because she isn't fat.

Funkycoldribena

7,379 posts

155 months

Tuesday 28th November 2017
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Has he gone up yet?

Eric Mc

122,053 posts

266 months

Tuesday 28th November 2017
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More importantly, has he come down?

And if he has, was he still together or in various components?

Funkycoldribena

7,379 posts

155 months

Tuesday 28th November 2017
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Eric Mc said:
More importantly, has he come down?
Well he will when he hits the dome.

Eric Mc

122,053 posts

266 months

Tuesday 28th November 2017
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Surely he fitted a dome puncturing steel spike to the tip of his device (and that's not a euphemism).

Ali G

3,526 posts

283 months

Tuesday 28th November 2017
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Tango13 said:
Ali G said:
Wtf is a steam powered rocket?
Most rockets are steam powered one way or another.

High test peroxide is dissolved over a catalyst to provide very high pressure steam.

The steam is then used to drive impellors connected to the fuel pumps.

Another way is to mix the superheated steam with a suitable fuel which will combust in the rocket chamber to provide thrust.
Rate of change in mass in conjunction with conservation of momentum.

Who said rocket science was difficult?

geeks

9,204 posts

140 months

Tuesday 28th November 2017
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Turns out you cant just launch a rocket over a crowded area regardless of the size of your stones hehe

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/speaking-of-sc...

g7orge

292 posts

95 months

Tuesday 28th November 2017
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rfisher

5,024 posts

284 months

Tuesday 28th November 2017
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Not another of David Blain's cunning stunts is it?

W124Bob

1,749 posts

176 months

Tuesday 28th November 2017
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10 9 8 "has anyone got a hammer" 6 5 4 3 2 1 chuff chuff.

Huntsman

8,068 posts

251 months

Tuesday 28th November 2017
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I'm so looking forward to him attempting it.

Tango13

8,451 posts

177 months

Tuesday 28th November 2017
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julian64 said:
Tango13 said:
Most rockets are steam powered one way or another.

High test peroxide is dissolved over a catalyst to provide very high pressure steam.

The steam is then used to drive impellors connected to the fuel pumps.

Another way is to mix the superheated steam with a suitable fuel which will combust in the rocket chamber to provide thrust.
Is that actually true. I don't think it is.
Peroxide is an oxygen source within which you can burn almost anything. It simply supplies oxygen for burning a substrate in the rocket. You don't burn steam, its oxygen + whatever you want to use as a high gas yield substrate
I didn't really explain the last bit clearly.

The decomposed HTP is basically lots of hydrogen and oxygen at seriously high temperatures, pretty much any fuel will spontaneously combust at such temperatures thus saving the need for any form of ignition source.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bristol_Siddeley_Gam...

Ayahuasca

27,427 posts

280 months

Tuesday 28th November 2017
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Gav147 said:
Seems it is not his first attempt video of one of his previous attempts, apparently launch pressure is ~400psi in his steam rocket and yes he is sat next to it.... what could possibly go wrong!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3feaiPcv6yE

Edited by Gav147 on Monday 20th November 18:27
Was he in that thing when it went up?

Loony!

Ayahuasca

27,427 posts

280 months

Tuesday 28th November 2017
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How is he pressurizing the water, and wouldn't a tank strong enough to contain the pressurized water be a bit heavy to be efficient in a flying rocket?


Matthen

1,295 posts

152 months

Monday 4th December 2017
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Well? Did he survive? Does anyone know?

kwaka jack

270 posts

173 months

Monday 4th December 2017
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Matthen said:
Well? Did he survive? Does anyone know?
The launch didn't happened. The government were scared he would expose the truth, so the Bureau of land management scuppered his plans.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/f...