Carrilion in trouble

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TheRainMaker

6,343 posts

243 months

Friday 12th January 2018
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Yep, it’s going to be a long weekend.

Smiler.

11,752 posts

231 months

Friday 12th January 2018
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Having been allied to the construction industry since leaving school, these companies are ste.

But they pale into the background when compared to the arch-sucker of the public teat, Crapita.

I see they were in the news again this week having ballsed-up another taxpayer funded service.

eccles

13,740 posts

223 months

Friday 12th January 2018
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crankedup said:
This shambles of a Company has 20,000 people who are involved with the outcome, looks very bleak for them at the moment.
Is your lad one of them or has he moved on to better things?

crankedup

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25,764 posts

244 months

Friday 12th January 2018
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eccles said:
crankedup said:
This shambles of a Company has 20,000 people who are involved with the outcome, looks very bleak for them at the moment.
Is your lad one of them or has he moved on to better things?
Yes he was at one time employed by them, when Babcocks lost the contract to Carrilion they wasted no time in slashing back on everything in sight and sound. Lad stayed for about six months and decided to take his skills to a employer that could conduct themselves in a professional manner. Mind you babcocks were not that smart to work for apparently.
He now works for a very special Company maintaining thier private properties. His second interview for the job took him to plush offices in Mayfair. Chalk and cheese never more appropriate.

eccles

13,740 posts

223 months

Friday 12th January 2018
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crankedup said:
eccles said:
crankedup said:
This shambles of a Company has 20,000 people who are involved with the outcome, looks very bleak for them at the moment.
Is your lad one of them or has he moved on to better things?
Yes he was at one time employed by them, when Babcocks lost the contract to Carrilion they wasted no time in slashing back on everything in sight and sound. Lad stayed for about six months and decided to take his skills to a employer that could conduct themselves in a professional manner. Mind you babcocks were not that smart to work for apparently.
He now works for a very special Company maintaining thier private properties. His second interview for the job took him to plush offices in Mayfair. Chalk and cheese never more appropriate.
Glad he got sorted.
We were hoping for better things when Babcocks lost the contract, but the staff just got TUPE'd over, even the idiots, and the already low standards just got worse.
I feel sorry for the few competent and decent blokes working for them struggling to get things done with little or no support.

hantsxlg

862 posts

233 months

Friday 12th January 2018
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Smiler said:
. ... they pale into the background when compared to the arch-sucker of the public teat, Crapita.

I see they were in the news again this week having ballsed-up another taxpayer funded service.
Which one? Mod recruitment?

toastyhamster

1,664 posts

97 months

Friday 12th January 2018
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Babcock have only just been demoted to the FTSE-250, cue knee jerk reaction of redundancies etc.

Ecosseven

1,984 posts

218 months

Friday 12th January 2018
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Sad to hear about Carillion potentially going to the wall. I worked for them for 9 years as a design Engineer (1997 - 2006). There were some decent people working for them when I was there but they were always pretty ruthless in the way they treated their sub-contractors and suppliers. It's the low and middle tier staff that will suffer and be concerned how they are going to pay the bills if the company goes under.

I have a small amount of shares that are practically worthless and I written these off, but I'm more worried about my pension given the massive hole in the pension fund.



Edited by Ecosseven on Friday 12th January 19:40

crankedup

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25,764 posts

244 months

Friday 12th January 2018
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Europa1 said:
If you're going start a thread ranting about a company, at least spell their name correctly.
Anything else you might want to add, what an out of touch idiot.

Smiler.

11,752 posts

231 months

Friday 12th January 2018
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hantsxlg said:
Smiler said:
. ... they pale into the background when compared to the arch-sucker of the public teat, Crapita.

I see they were in the news again this week having ballsed-up another taxpayer funded service.
Which one? Mod recruitment?
Yep.

crankedup

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25,764 posts

244 months

Friday 12th January 2018
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eccles said:
crankedup said:
eccles said:
crankedup said:
This shambles of a Company has 20,000 people who are involved with the outcome, looks very bleak for them at the moment.
Is your lad one of them or has he moved on to better things?
Yes he was at one time employed by them, when Babcocks lost the contract to Carrilion they wasted no time in slashing back on everything in sight and sound. Lad stayed for about six months and decided to take his skills to a employer that could conduct themselves in a professional manner. Mind you babcocks were not that smart to work for apparently.
He now works for a very special Company maintaining thier private properties. His second interview for the job took him to plush offices in Mayfair. Chalk and cheese never more appropriate.
Glad he got sorted.
We were hoping for better things when Babcocks lost the contract, but the staff just got TUPE'd over, even the idiots, and the already low standards just got worse.
I feel sorry for the few competent and decent blokes working for them struggling to get things done with little or no support.
ReLly sorry to hear this, and I know our lad will be unhappy about this. He always said to us about the lads he worked with being ‘a good bunch of hard working loyal fellas’. They are. retain.y wasted working for a ste Company as carrilion. Some tts in here post pure garbage not knowing just how bad things are for decent skilled people. Companies
like carillion hold back our highly skilled workforce.

Tryke3

1,609 posts

95 months

Friday 12th January 2018
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Rovinghawk said:
I know a couple of Carillion directors- the main thing they have in common is a refusal to acknowledge any facts which don't suit them.

I look forward to them getting what they deserve from all of this.
Is the answer a couple mill and fat pension ?

crankedup

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25,764 posts

244 months

Friday 12th January 2018
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Ecosseven said:
Sad to hear about Carillion potentially going to the wall. I worked for them for 9 years as a design Engineer (1997 - 2006). There were some decent people working for them when I was there but they were always pretty ruthless in the way they treated their sub-contractors and suppliers. It's the low and middle tier staff that will suffer and be concerned how they are going to pay the bills if the company goes under.

I have a small amount of shares that are practically worthless and I written these off, but I'm more worried about my pension given the massive hole in the pension fund.



Edited by Ecosseven on Friday 12th January 19:40
Questions to be offered to carillion CEO and board, bunch of wan*ers .

Yipper

5,964 posts

91 months

Friday 12th January 2018
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Carillion is based in Wolverhampton...

This looks like yet another company from the poorer parts of northern Britain trying to compete with and show off to the big boys in London -- but lacking the world-class skills or trained staff to pull it off.

Other examples of the "little-man syndrome" genre in recent years include RBS, BoS and B&B.

It's a familiar pattern... Reckless debt, reckless pricing and reckless management decisions... Boom and bust...

A worrying trend.

FWIW

3,069 posts

98 months

Friday 12th January 2018
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Yipper said:
Carillion is based in Wolverhampton...

This looks like yet another company from the poorer parts of northern Britain trying to compete with and show off to the big boys in London -- but lacking the world-class skills or trained staff to pull it off.

Other examples of the "little-man syndrome" genre in recent years include RBS, BoS and B&B.

It's a familiar pattern... Reckless debt, reckless pricing and reckless management decisions... Boom and bust...

A worrying trend.
Haha! You heard it here first!

Smiler.

11,752 posts

231 months

Friday 12th January 2018
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FWIW said:
Yipper said:
Carillion is based in Wolverhampton...

This looks like yet another company from the poorer parts of northern Britain trying to compete with and show off to the big boys in London -- but lacking the world-class skills or trained staff to pull it off.

Other examples of the "little-man syndrome" genre in recent years include RBS, BoS and B&B.

It's a familiar pattern... Reckless debt, reckless pricing and reckless management decisions... Boom and bust...

A worrying trend.
Haha! You heard it here first!
hehe

I am considerably less London, than yow


anonymous-user

55 months

Friday 12th January 2018
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eccles said:
crankedup said:
eccles said:
crankedup said:
This shambles of a Company has 20,000 people who are involved with the outcome, looks very bleak for them at the moment.
Is your lad one of them or has he moved on to better things?
Yes he was at one time employed by them, when Babcocks lost the contract to Carrilion they wasted no time in slashing back on everything in sight and sound. Lad stayed for about six months and decided to take his skills to a employer that could conduct themselves in a professional manner. Mind you babcocks were not that smart to work for apparently.
He now works for a very special Company maintaining thier private properties. His second interview for the job took him to plush offices in Mayfair. Chalk and cheese never more appropriate.
Glad he got sorted.
We were hoping for better things when Babcocks lost the contract, but the staff just got TUPE'd over, even the idiots, and the already low standards just got worse.
I feel sorry for the few competent and decent blokes working for them struggling to get things done with little or no support.
We've already been over this.

carillion and carillionamey (who own the mod contract from babcock) are a completely different company rolleyes

TeaNoSugar

1,241 posts

166 months

Friday 12th January 2018
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Yipper said:
Carillion is based in Wolverhampton...

This looks like yet another company from the poorer parts of northern Britain trying to compete with and show off to the big boys in London -- but lacking the world-class skills or trained staff to pull it off.

Other examples of the "little-man syndrome" genre in recent years include RBS, BoS and B&B.

It's a familiar pattern... Reckless debt, reckless pricing and reckless management decisions... Boom and bust...

A worrying trend.
The only sensible bit is the last sentence about recklessness. The rest of it is complete nonsense and bizarre conclusion to come to!

Pericoloso

44,044 posts

164 months

Saturday 13th January 2018
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Yipper really should buy a map ,his geography is appalling.

FYI Wolverhampton not in the north.

Rovinghawk

13,300 posts

159 months

Saturday 13th January 2018
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Tryke3 said:
Rovinghawk said:
I know a couple of Carillion directors- the main thing they have in common is a refusal to acknowledge any facts which don't suit them.

I look forward to them getting what they deserve from all of this.
Is the answer a couple mill and fat pension ?
Hopefully a P45, no money for redundancy & an apology in place of a pension.

It's the few decent employees I feel for.