How do we think EU negotiations will go? (Vol 2)
Discussion
The bigger question is why the Eu is meeting with people who are not representatives of the Uk government. I find this highly manipulative and dishonest, that said what would you expect from an organisation that manipulates for self-interest. The disgrace here is their willingness to openly work in this way during negotiations with a sovereign state. Shameful practice and indicative of what the Eu is.
Farage meeting was due to him being the leader of a Eu Parliament group, he however should also have stepped back, IMHO he is wrong in having the meeting even if he was entitled.
Farage meeting was due to him being the leader of a Eu Parliament group, he however should also have stepped back, IMHO he is wrong in having the meeting even if he was entitled.
PurpleMoonlight said:
Cobnapint said:
Did she have permission to go? She should keep her trap shut, traitor.
Does that mean St Farage is a traitor too? After all he didn't represent the UK Government at his meeting.Farage is a serving MEP (as much as he ever turns up!) who has nothing to do with the government party.
There is a vast chasm of difference between the validity of them knocking on Barnier's door.
That May cannot control this is yet another sign, if one were needed, of how weak she is.
Anyway, now that Elkie Brooks has blown a gasket again, let's leave the polemical broken records behind & get back to the topic shall we?
I see that Scotland produced impact assessments that illustrated there is no such thing as a good Brexit (Duh!) & that the extent of the shafting really comes down to how much Theresa the sticky lets Boris play with the levers. More here:
https://news.gov.scot/news/analysis-shows-single-m...
This, unsurprisingly, prompted a rebuke from May the sticky, pointing out that Scotland is part of the UK & we're all in this together. That's right, your Damascene converted PM is arguing that Sturgeon should shut up because she's in an economic & social union with free movement of goods, people & capital & that's a good thing.
https://www.politicshome.com/news/uk/political-par...
I see that Scotland produced impact assessments that illustrated there is no such thing as a good Brexit (Duh!) & that the extent of the shafting really comes down to how much Theresa the sticky lets Boris play with the levers. More here:
https://news.gov.scot/news/analysis-shows-single-m...
This, unsurprisingly, prompted a rebuke from May the sticky, pointing out that Scotland is part of the UK & we're all in this together. That's right, your Damascene converted PM is arguing that Sturgeon should shut up because she's in an economic & social union with free movement of goods, people & capital & that's a good thing.
https://www.politicshome.com/news/uk/political-par...
Eddie Strohacker said:
Itchy trigger finger leaver is triggered again. And I take it, your dislike of unreasonable generalisations means you'll be posting a similarly even handed admonishment to Cobnapint for tarring a democratically elected Member of Parliament with the soubriquet of Traitor (see what I did there?)
Yes, I saw what you did there. Introduced whataboutism as a substitute for an answer.Edited by Eddie Strohacker on Tuesday 16th January 14:29
Eddie Strohacker said:
Anyway, now that Elkie Brooks has blown a gasket again, let's leave the polemical broken records behind & get back to the topic shall we?
I see that Scotland produced impact assessments that illustrated there is no such thing as a good Brexit (Duh!) & that the extent of the shafting really comes down to how much Theresa the sticky lets Boris play with the levers. More here:
https://news.gov.scot/news/analysis-shows-single-m...
This, unsurprisingly, prompted a rebuke from May the sticky, pointing out that Scotland is part of the UK & we're all in this together. That's right, your Damascene converted PM is arguing that Sturgeon should shut up because she's in an economic & social union with free movement of goods, people & capital & that's a good thing.
https://www.politicshome.com/news/uk/political-par...
Didn't Khan's report say the same?I see that Scotland produced impact assessments that illustrated there is no such thing as a good Brexit (Duh!) & that the extent of the shafting really comes down to how much Theresa the sticky lets Boris play with the levers. More here:
https://news.gov.scot/news/analysis-shows-single-m...
This, unsurprisingly, prompted a rebuke from May the sticky, pointing out that Scotland is part of the UK & we're all in this together. That's right, your Damascene converted PM is arguing that Sturgeon should shut up because she's in an economic & social union with free movement of goods, people & capital & that's a good thing.
https://www.politicshome.com/news/uk/political-par...
Project fear?
Eddie Strohacker said:
That's right, your Damascene converted PM is arguing that Sturgeon should shut up because she's in an economic & social union with free movement of goods, people & capital & that's a good thing.
Because Scotland being part of the UK is *exactly* the same as the UK being part of the EU?Must admit I had problems with that myself. On a basic level, why should they be different? Then you start considering what the practical and economic differences are and... well duh.
Tuna said:
Because Scotland being part of the UK is *exactly* the same as the UK being part of the EU?
Must admit I had problems with that myself. On a basic level, why should they be different? Then you start considering what the practical and economic differences are and... well duh.
Not exactly the same, no. Just very similar. Just similar in all the ways that matter to the argument being made.Must admit I had problems with that myself. On a basic level, why should they be different? Then you start considering what the practical and economic differences are and... well duh.
More project fear or as I prefer to see it, project every last leaver in creation with their head in the sand. This taking back control is going to look glorious next March.
Liam Fox, by the way, is a joke,
http://www.cer.eu/insights/transition-and-trade-de...
Liam Fox, by the way, is a joke,
http://www.cer.eu/insights/transition-and-trade-de...
Eddie Strohacker said:
Anyway, now that Elkie Brooks has blown a gasket again, let's leave the polemical broken records behind & get back to the topic shall we?
I see that Scotland produced impact assessments that illustrated there is no such thing as a good Brexit (Duh!) & that the extent of the shafting really comes down to how much Theresa the sticky lets Boris play with the levers. More here:
https://news.gov.scot/news/analysis-shows-single-m...
This, unsurprisingly, prompted a rebuke from May the sticky, pointing out that Scotland is part of the UK & we're all in this together. That's right, your Damascene converted PM is arguing that Sturgeon should shut up because she's in an economic & social union with free movement of goods, people & capital & that's a good thing.
https://www.politicshome.com/news/uk/political-par...
So the party that thinks independence from the rUK and by default separation from the EU would make Scots on average £1000 each better off now thinks that the UK leaving the EU will make Scots on average £2300 each worse off.I see that Scotland produced impact assessments that illustrated there is no such thing as a good Brexit (Duh!) & that the extent of the shafting really comes down to how much Theresa the sticky lets Boris play with the levers. More here:
https://news.gov.scot/news/analysis-shows-single-m...
This, unsurprisingly, prompted a rebuke from May the sticky, pointing out that Scotland is part of the UK & we're all in this together. That's right, your Damascene converted PM is arguing that Sturgeon should shut up because she's in an economic & social union with free movement of goods, people & capital & that's a good thing.
https://www.politicshome.com/news/uk/political-par...
Im confused.
barryrs said:
Eddie Strohacker said:
Anyway, now that Elkie Brooks has blown a gasket again, let's leave the polemical broken records behind & get back to the topic shall we?
I see that Scotland produced impact assessments that illustrated there is no such thing as a good Brexit (Duh!) & that the extent of the shafting really comes down to how much Theresa the sticky lets Boris play with the levers. More here:
https://news.gov.scot/news/analysis-shows-single-m...
This, unsurprisingly, prompted a rebuke from May the sticky, pointing out that Scotland is part of the UK & we're all in this together. That's right, your Damascene converted PM is arguing that Sturgeon should shut up because she's in an economic & social union with free movement of goods, people & capital & that's a good thing.
https://www.politicshome.com/news/uk/political-par...
So the party that thinks independence from the rUK and by default separation from the EU would make Scots on average £1000 each better off now thinks that the UK leaving the EU will make Scots on average £2300 each worse off.I see that Scotland produced impact assessments that illustrated there is no such thing as a good Brexit (Duh!) & that the extent of the shafting really comes down to how much Theresa the sticky lets Boris play with the levers. More here:
https://news.gov.scot/news/analysis-shows-single-m...
This, unsurprisingly, prompted a rebuke from May the sticky, pointing out that Scotland is part of the UK & we're all in this together. That's right, your Damascene converted PM is arguing that Sturgeon should shut up because she's in an economic & social union with free movement of goods, people & capital & that's a good thing.
https://www.politicshome.com/news/uk/political-par...
Im confused.
Project Fear never gives up.
Always remember -- pretty much every Western nation outside the EU is richer than those nations inside the EU (Switzerland, US, Norway, Australia, etc.).
They thrive away from the EU vampire squid sucking taxes and energy out of the region.
barryrs said:
So the party that thinks independence from the rUK and by default separation from the EU would make Scots on average £1000 each better off now thinks that the UK leaving the EU will make Scots on average £2300 each worse off.
Im confused.
The answer is you can't trust a politician. The point is one of those hapless politicians admonished the other for suggesting we'd all be better off in a union by pointing out we're better off in a union, This is literally the madness we're descending in to & it hasn't even begun yet. It also triggers Yippers poundshop A.I. as seen above.Im confused.
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