How do we think EU negotiations will go? (Vol 2)

[don'tbesilly]

jjlynn27 said:

don'tbesilly said:

Same old, same old

If you put 360,000 immigrants in your back garden with 10 pedaling furiously on a bike powering the turbine to power your single 100w light bulb you wouldn't notice them, but would wonder where the light was coming from.

Just do one Fella, you're just a waste of space taking away others oxygen.

Fella?

Only one person was so painfully stupid not to figure that the above was photoshop.

I could mock you for pretending to know my prediction for ref. result but that would be just cruel.

Fella ...

>>>>>>>>>>>, nuff said.

[mx5nut]

frankenstein12 said:

It seems the project is working well as its converting leavers into remainers. Leavers are looking at what a shambles the government is making of brexit and are starting to think we are better off just remaining as we will get royally shafted if we leave under the terms being "negotiated" by this bunch of corrupt cowards.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanlon%27s_razor

frankenstein12 said:

They can then call a GE which Corbyn/Labour will win easily. Corbyn/Labour will then reverse brexit stating public mood has shifted. Public will wake up and realise far too late they have been shafted by both labour and conservatives and all hell will break loose.

What do you mean by this?

[ORD]

A torrent of ad hominem nonsense as usual, then, even when I make a point in your favour!

[The Dangerous Elk]

ORD said:

A torrent of ad hominem nonsense as usual, then, even when I make a point in your favour!

Ever wondered that it might be your (and the other ones like JJ and MX) supreme intellect that may be the cause of you always being at the center of it ?

[Ridgemont]

mx5nut said:

frankenstein12 said:

It seems the project is working well as its converting leavers into remainers. Leavers are looking at what a shambles the government is making of brexit and are starting to think we are better off just remaining as we will get royally shafted if we leave under the terms being "negotiated" by this bunch of corrupt cowards.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanlon%27s_razor

frankenstein12 said:

They can then call a GE which Corbyn/Labour will win easily. Corbyn/Labour will then reverse brexit stating public mood has shifted. Public will wake up and realise far too late they have been shafted by both labour and conservatives and all hell will break loose.

What do you mean by this?

Tony Blair was on the Today programme on R4 last week clearly outlining a path to reversing Brexit via Labour reverse ferreting, and adopting a remain stance, winning a GE then using parliament to overturn both the Brexit bill and request article 50 is allowed to be withdrawn. John Humphries pointed out that civil unrest would be the likely outcome. I don’t think he’s wrong.

[ORD]

The Dangerous Elk said:

Ever wondered that it might be your (and the other ones like JJ and MX) supreme intellect that may be the cause of you always being at the center of it ?

I thought it was the pack mentality and anti-knowledge attitude of you and yours, to be frank.

[98elise]

ORD said:

Any internet poll will be skewed towards Remain. Many Leavers don’t use the Internet much.

My own best guess is that the wheels have not come off enough yet to really change the mood of the electorate. The public may well go off the cliff before they even see it.

If only we had our own internet poll

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

[frankenstein12]

mx5nut said:

frankenstein12 said:

It seems the project is working well as its converting leavers into remainers. Leavers are looking at what a shambles the government is making of brexit and are starting to think we are better off just remaining as we will get royally shafted if we leave under the terms being "negotiated" by this bunch of corrupt cowards.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanlon%27s_razor

frankenstein12 said:

They can then call a GE which Corbyn/Labour will win easily. Corbyn/Labour will then reverse brexit stating public mood has shifted. Public will wake up and realise far too late they have been shafted by both labour and conservatives and all hell will break loose.

What do you mean by this?

Well if this theory proves right and the public come to the conclusion they were conned by the government then that in turn leads to a crisis in our very democracy as whether a remainer or a leaver if it becomes seemingly apparent the government have not only intentionally but deliberately ignored the will of the people then how can a person have faith in your elected government at all?

That in turn leads to the question of what next? For sure those who are remainers would be out on the streets as per normal ranting and raving like nutters and protesting but i suspect even those who under almost all normal circumstance would join them.

Who knows and this theory could easily be wrong as the government are hopelessly inept and so its also possible they are simply doing a tragic job of negotiating.

[frankenstein12]

Ridgemont said:

mx5nut said:

frankenstein12 said:

It seems the project is working well as its converting leavers into remainers. Leavers are looking at what a shambles the government is making of brexit and are starting to think we are better off just remaining as we will get royally shafted if we leave under the terms being "negotiated" by this bunch of corrupt cowards.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanlon%27s_razor

frankenstein12 said:

They can then call a GE which Corbyn/Labour will win easily. Corbyn/Labour will then reverse brexit stating public mood has shifted. Public will wake up and realise far too late they have been shafted by both labour and conservatives and all hell will break loose.

What do you mean by this?

Tony Blair was on the Today programme on R4 last week clearly outlining a path to reversing Brexit via Labour reverse ferreting, and adopting a remain stance, winning a GE then using parliament to overturn both the Brexit bill and request article 50 is allowed to be withdrawn. John Humhries pointed out that civil unrest would be the likely outcome. I don’t think he’s wrong.

Exactly what I am driving at and unfortunately as we all know if Tony Blair is willing to voice that idea he is also in favour of it as he is arrogant enough to think the government could get away with it and further to that we all know full well our government ministers are all arrogant and stupid enough enough to think they can get away with this sort of stupidity.

[mx5nut]

98elise said:

ORD said:

Any internet poll will be skewed towards Remain. Many Leavers don’t use the Internet much.

My own best guess is that the wheels have not come off enough yet to really change the mood of the electorate. The public may well go off the cliff before they even see it.

If only we had our own internet poll

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

If PH was indicative of real life, Nigel Farage would be in number 10 by now

[mx5nut]

frankenstein12 said:

That in turn leads to the question of what next? For sure those who are remainers would be out on the streets as per normal ranting and raving like nutters and protesting but i suspect even those who under almost all normal circumstance would join them.
.

There might be a few angry retirees and students having a moan on the streets.

The rest of us will be at work getting on with our lives.

[frankenstein12]

mx5nut said:

frankenstein12 said:

That in turn leads to the question of what next? For sure those who are remainers would be out on the streets as per normal ranting and raving like nutters and protesting but i suspect even those who under almost all normal circumstance would join them.
.

There might be a few angry retirees and students having a moan on the streets.

The rest of us will be at work getting on with our lives.

Really? So if it became apparent the government had deliberately subverted a national public referendum and gone against the majority will of the British people you would be OK with that?


So if for example there was a GE and Labour got the most votes but the conservatives just ignored the results and took up the office of number ten you would be OK with that?

[mx5nut]

frankenstein12 said:

Really? So if it became apparent the government had deliberately subverted a national public referendum and gone against the majority will of the British people you would be OK with that?

Some would be a little annoyed. Few (have the time to) care about leaving the European Union enough to take to the streets. There may be some tutting.

frankenstein12 said:

So if for example there was a GE and Labour got the most votes but the conservatives just ignored the results and took up the office of number ten you would be OK with that?

That might not be the best example to use - most of NP&E would be happy with that

[powerstroke]

Ridgemont said:

mx5nut said:

frankenstein12 said:

It seems the project is working well as its converting leavers into remainers. Leavers are looking at what a shambles the government is making of brexit and are starting to think we are better off just remaining as we will get royally shafted if we leave under the terms being "negotiated" by this bunch of corrupt cowards.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanlon%27s_razor

frankenstein12 said:

They can then call a GE which Corbyn/Labour will win easily. Corbyn/Labour will then reverse brexit stating public mood has shifted. Public will wake up and realise far too late they have been shafted by both labour and conservatives and all hell will break loose.

What do you mean by this?

Tony Blair was on the Today programme on R4 last week clearly outlining a path to reversing Brexit via Labour reverse ferreting, and adopting a remain stance, winning a GE then using parliament to overturn both the Brexit bill and request article 50 is allowed to be withdrawn. John Humphries pointed out that civil unrest would be the likely outcome. I don’t think he’s wrong.

How do you think Henry Bolton would do against Corbyn at PMQs ???

[Crackie]

ORD said:

Many Leavers don’t use the Internet much.

Any idea how many of us don't ???

Edited by Crackie on Tuesday 16th January 21:46

[alfie2244]

ORD said:

The Dangerous Elk said:

Ever wondered that it might be your (and the other ones like JJ and MX) supreme intellect that may be the cause of you always being at the center of it ?

I thought it was the pack mentality and anti-knowledge attitude of you and yours, to be frank.

Who is Frank?

[alfie2244]

mx5nut said:

frankenstein12 said:

That in turn leads to the question of what next? For sure those who are remainers would be out on the streets as per normal ranting and raving like nutters and protesting but i suspect even those who under almost all normal circumstance would join them.
.

There might be a few angry retirees and students having a moan on the streets.

The rest of us will be at work getting on with our lives.

Work...you actually have time to work and post on here 24/7.....some sparky you must be.

[mx5nut]

Ridgemont said:

John Humphries pointed out that civil unrest would be the likely outcome. I don’t think he’s wrong.

There are doubtless some Brexiteers who are gagging for an opportunity to take out their anger and start smashing things up.

I think the Daily Mash are pretty much on the money, though

[The Dangerous Elk]

mx5nut said:

as per ; ste attempt/rather pathetic/repeat/drivel

[hyphen]

mx5nut said:

Ridgemont said:

John Humphries pointed out that civil unrest would be the likely outcome. I don’t think he’s wrong.

There are doubtless some Brexiteers who are gagging for an opportunity to take out their anger and start smashing things up.

I think the Daily Mash are pretty much on the money, though

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