How do we think EU negotiations will go? (Vol 2)

[PurpleMoonlight]

CaptainSlow said:

Seems only fair, the transition has to work both ways. After Dec 2020 it's for the UK to control.

Was there an 'out but in for a couple of years' option on the ballot paper?

PS I wouldn't know as I didn't see one.

[SpeckledJim]

PurpleMoonlight said:

CaptainSlow said:

Seems only fair, the transition has to work both ways. After Dec 2020 it's for the UK to control.

Was there an 'out but in for a couple of years' option on the ballot paper?

PS I wouldn't know as I didn't see one.

It seems to me there's a necessary amount of give-and-take to this. We were (are) very intricately woven into the fabric of the EU and a mutually agreed transition period seems sensible to me (a mild-to-moderate leaver).

Better to take a bit longer and do a better job of the necessary house-work (on both sides) than to proceed at all possible speed and make things more dramatic than they have to be.

If it costs a bit more in terms of our contributions to the EU, and costs a bit less in terms of overall disruption and uncertainty, that seems sensible to me. And that seems to me to be a sentence that could equally have been typed by a Remainer.

[LoonyTunes]

PurpleMoonlight said:

CaptainSlow said:

Seems only fair, the transition has to work both ways. After Dec 2020 it's for the UK to control.

Was there an 'out but in for a couple of years' option on the ballot paper?

So in the negotiations for the transition period we're staying in both the Single Market and the Customs Union.

Is that right?

So no real negotiating 'win' there for us at all - basically we're doing only what they will allow/accept?

So when it comes down to the REAL negotiations over the Single Market access how are we going to get any kind of deal that suits us exactly?

[Digga]

LoonyTunes said:

So when it comes down to the REAL negotiations over the Single Market access how are we going to get any kind of deal that suits us exactly?

All in all, today finally looks like progress and pragmatism on both sides.

Deferring the SM deal makes strategic sense for us when we look at the changes afoot within the remainder of the EU. Most significant of which is Germany: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-germany-politic...

Given the above, I'd hazard a guess that a future agreement has potential to be more lenient, more considered of the purpose behind Brexit, than one today.

[Vanden Saab]

LoonyTunes said:

So in the negotiations for the transition period we're staying in both the Single Market and the Customs Union.

Is that right?

So no real negotiating 'win' there for us at all - basically we're doing only what they will allow/accept?

So when it comes down to the REAL negotiations over the Single Market access how are we going to get any kind of deal that suits us exactly?

Yes
Yes we asked for a transition period lasting two years they agreed to a period of 1 year nine months. Not sure where your allow/accept comes from.
By negotiating strangely...We want A they want B we both agree on C simples...

[Big Al.]

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