The Irish border
Discussion
JuniorD said:
So David Davis shows up for a two hour visit to the border between NI and ROI (i.e UK and the the EU) yesterday and no one of note knew about it.
And today "the Government said failure to notify local politicians was ‘an administrative oversight’."
https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/republic-o...
In all seriousness, who could believe, let alone trust these cretins to do anything with dilligence
Some people really do seem to be rather too far up their own arses. Exactly when did a Cabinet Minister need permission to do part of his job from a bunch of local politicians - and how do they qualify as anybody of note exactly (except in, and to, the Province, possibly)? And today "the Government said failure to notify local politicians was ‘an administrative oversight’."
https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/republic-o...
In all seriousness, who could believe, let alone trust these cretins to do anything with dilligence
It might have been courteous to let them know he was coming but it's no big deal in the scheme of things.
This technology solution for the border - will the home office be involved?
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/apr/24/b...
Half the population use iphones.
Having admitted their new brexit app won't work on them, the Home Office suggested users "borrow someone else's" phone.
Frictionless trade is safe in their hands.
Gloria Slap said:
This technology solution for the border - will the home office be involved?
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/apr/24/b...
Half the population use iphones.
Having admitted their new brexit app won't work on them, the Home Office suggested users "borrow someone else's" phone.
Frictionless trade is safe in their hands.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/apr/24/b...
Half the population use iphones.
Having admitted their new brexit app won't work on them, the Home Office suggested users "borrow someone else's" phone.
Frictionless trade is safe in their hands.
graunard said:
However, it has emerged that because Apple will not enable its technology to read the chip on modern passports, the registration can only be completed on an Android phone.
Not really the Governments fault then? did you actually read the article or just the headline?
Vanden Saab said:
Gloria Slap said:
This technology solution for the border - will the home office be involved?
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/apr/24/b...
Half the population use iphones.
Having admitted their new brexit app won't work on them, the Home Office suggested users "borrow someone else's" phone.
Frictionless trade is safe in their hands.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/apr/24/b...
Half the population use iphones.
Having admitted their new brexit app won't work on them, the Home Office suggested users "borrow someone else's" phone.
Frictionless trade is safe in their hands.
graunard said:
However, it has emerged that because Apple will not enable its technology to read the chip on modern passports, the registration can only be completed on an Android phone.
Not really the Governments fault then? did you actually read the article or just the headline?
They design and build an app, fail to test it, and then suddenly realise it doesn't work on the most popular brand of smartphone in the UK.
That isn't anyone else's fault but their own.
Total incompetence.
Lord Marylebone said:
Vanden Saab said:
Gloria Slap said:
This technology solution for the border - will the home office be involved?
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/apr/24/b...
Half the population use iphones.
Having admitted their new brexit app won't work on them, the Home Office suggested users "borrow someone else's" phone.
Frictionless trade is safe in their hands.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/apr/24/b...
Half the population use iphones.
Having admitted their new brexit app won't work on them, the Home Office suggested users "borrow someone else's" phone.
Frictionless trade is safe in their hands.
graunard said:
However, it has emerged that because Apple will not enable its technology to read the chip on modern passports, the registration can only be completed on an Android phone.
Not really the Governments fault then? did you actually read the article or just the headline?
They design and build an app, fail to test it, and then suddenly realise it doesn't work on the most popular brand of smartphone in the UK.
That isn't anyone else's fault but their own.
Total incompetence.
grauniad said:
It is understood that the iPhone compatibility issue was known about at the app’s inception. “We’re speaking to Apple to try and get this resolved,” a Home Office spokesman said.
So no it wasn't "not tested" and they didn't "suddenly realise" it didn't work on Iphones. and yes it is apples fault their phone will not read passport chips. Can you think of any reason why apple are refusing to enable their phones to read passport chips?Vanden Saab said:
So no it wasn't "not tested" and they didn't "suddenly realise" it didn't work on Iphones. and yes it is apples fault their phone will not read passport chips. Can you think of any reason why apple are refusing to enable their phones to read passport chips?
Blame apple. Blame anyone but who is responsible. Typical. If they knew and thought they could resolve with Apple - then they have clearly failed. Apple may well not budge - they haven't so far. How has it got this stage and not be resolved? If they carried on anyway and thought iphones don't matter - then what does that tell you?
No doubt you will be making the same excuses if the truck stack mounts on the M20 or in NI.
"Oh its that technology companies fault for not doing x, y, z.". Probably a foreign company no doubt.
Meanwhile, if this kind of muppetry is inflicted on our trade - damage, economic impacts, embarrassment. That's Brexs
t!Gloria Slap said:
This technology solution for the border - will the home office be involved?
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/apr/24/b...
Half the population use iphones.
Having admitted their new brexit app won't work on them, the Home Office suggested users "borrow someone else's" phone.
Frictionless trade is safe in their hands.
So it validates one more of my many reasons for leaving the EU!!https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/apr/24/b...
Half the population use iphones.
Having admitted their new brexit app won't work on them, the Home Office suggested users "borrow someone else's" phone.
Frictionless trade is safe in their hands.
Our 3rd rate politicians and civil servants will no longer have a hiding place when they screw up
Gloria Slap said:
Blame apple. Blame anyone but who is responsible. Typical.
If they knew and thought they could resolve with Apple - then they have clearly failed. Apple may well not budge - they haven't so far. How has it got this stage and not be resolved? If they carried on anyway and thought iphones don't matter - then what does that tell you?
No doubt you will be making the same excuses if the truck stack mounts on the M20 or in NI.
"Oh its that technology companies fault for not doing x, y, z.". Probably a foreign company no doubt.
Meanwhile, if this kind of muppetry is inflicted on our trade - damage, economic impacts, embarrassment. That's Brexst!
Feel better now you have had your breakfast rant? If they knew and thought they could resolve with Apple - then they have clearly failed. Apple may well not budge - they haven't so far. How has it got this stage and not be resolved? If they carried on anyway and thought iphones don't matter - then what does that tell you?
No doubt you will be making the same excuses if the truck stack mounts on the M20 or in NI.
"Oh its that technology companies fault for not doing x, y, z.". Probably a foreign company no doubt.
Meanwhile, if this kind of muppetry is inflicted on our trade - damage, economic impacts, embarrassment. That's Brexs
t!Any chance you might put forward a reason why Apple have not enabled their phones to read passport chips? Even to me as an old technophobe it seems like a great idea, imagine the potential to reduce queues, rather than carrying a passport and having to scan your chip or having it checked by a human, you just load a passport app on your phone and face recognition matches your passport to you as you walk through passport control. No doubt the developers of Android saw the potential that Apple could not.
powerstroke said:
So it validates one more of my many reasons for leaving the EU!!
Our 3rd rate politicians and civil servants will no longer have a hiding place when they screw up
Single best reason for leaving the EU (which I voted against) - although I'm sure the UK law makers will still try to blame the EU for anything and everything.Our 3rd rate politicians and civil servants will no longer have a hiding place when they screw up
In fact, they will now have the added excuse that having to follow EU rules is even worse now that we will have no input into how they are formulated.
Gloria Slap said:
Blame apple. Blame anyone but who is responsible. Typical.
If they knew and thought they could resolve with Apple - then they have clearly failed. Apple may well not budge - they haven't so far. How has it got this stage and not be resolved? If they carried on anyway and thought iphones don't matter - then what does that tell you?
No doubt you will be making the same excuses if the truck stack mounts on the M20 or in NI.
"Oh its that technology companies fault for not doing x, y, z.". Probably a foreign company no doubt.
Meanwhile, if this kind of muppetry is inflicted on our trade - damage, economic impacts, embarrassment. That's Brexst!
Bizarre rant.If they knew and thought they could resolve with Apple - then they have clearly failed. Apple may well not budge - they haven't so far. How has it got this stage and not be resolved? If they carried on anyway and thought iphones don't matter - then what does that tell you?
No doubt you will be making the same excuses if the truck stack mounts on the M20 or in NI.
"Oh its that technology companies fault for not doing x, y, z.". Probably a foreign company no doubt.
Meanwhile, if this kind of muppetry is inflicted on our trade - damage, economic impacts, embarrassment. That's Brexs
t!It doesn't work on iPhone down to the way Apple have implemented NFC. You've been able to read Passports on Android since NFC was first added to phones getting on for a decade ago. There more than likely isn't going to be a software fix for this because NFC security makes it complicated.
The choice was to do an Android App only, or no app at all. Clearly your choice would be no app at all. Because you're an idiot.
Gloria Slap said:
This technology solution for the border - will the home office be involved?
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/apr/24/b...
Half the population use iphones.
Having admitted their new brexit app won't work on them, the Home Office suggested users "borrow someone else's" phone.
Frictionless trade is safe in their hands.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/apr/24/b...
Half the population use iphones.
Having admitted their new brexit app won't work on them, the Home Office suggested users "borrow someone else's" phone.
Frictionless trade is safe in their hands.
Guardian Article said:
However, it has emerged that because Apple will not enable its technology to read the chip on modern passports, the registration can only be completed on an Android phone.
The entire purpose of the app is to integrate with the biometric chip on a passport. iPhones can't access this chip.How is this the fault of the home office?
maffski said:
Gloria Slap said:
This technology solution for the border - will the home office be involved?
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/apr/24/b...
Half the population use iphones.
Having admitted their new brexit app won't work on them, the Home Office suggested users "borrow someone else's" phone.
Frictionless trade is safe in their hands.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/apr/24/b...
Half the population use iphones.
Having admitted their new brexit app won't work on them, the Home Office suggested users "borrow someone else's" phone.
Frictionless trade is safe in their hands.
Guardian Article said:
However, it has emerged that because Apple will not enable its technology to read the chip on modern passports, the registration can only be completed on an Android phone.
The entire purpose of the app is to integrate with the biometric chip on a passport. iPhones can't access this chip.How is this the fault of the home office?
slow_poke said:
maffski said:
Gloria Slap said:
This technology solution for the border - will the home office be involved?
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/apr/24/b...
Half the population use iphones.
Having admitted their new brexit app won't work on them, the Home Office suggested users "borrow someone else's" phone.
Frictionless trade is safe in their hands.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/apr/24/b...
Half the population use iphones.
Having admitted their new brexit app won't work on them, the Home Office suggested users "borrow someone else's" phone.
Frictionless trade is safe in their hands.
Guardian Article said:
However, it has emerged that because Apple will not enable its technology to read the chip on modern passports, the registration can only be completed on an Android phone.
The entire purpose of the app is to integrate with the biometric chip on a passport. iPhones can't access this chip.How is this the fault of the home office?
https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/national-media-releas...
Fortunately, our brexit borders will be in the more than capable hands on HMRC. As we all know HMRC have a reputation for delivering technology solutions on time and budget.
Mrr T said:
It seems the US have a passport app on the IPhone.
https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/national-media-releas...
Fortunately, our brexit borders will be in the more than capable hands on HMRC. As we all know HMRC have a reputation for delivering technology solutions on time and budget.
If I've read it properly (which I know is a bit of a challenge these days), the US 'passport app' is actually a mobile form filling app so you can fill in your customs declaration 'digitally' instead of on paper. It does not integrate with your passport. You have to present both the phone and your passport to the customs official on entry into the States. https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/national-media-releas...
Fortunately, our brexit borders will be in the more than capable hands on HMRC. As we all know HMRC have a reputation for delivering technology solutions on time and budget.
It's remarkable that we develop an app that does integrate with your passport on phones that have the right hardware, and apparently it's the fault of the government that it doesn't include magic pixie dust that makes all phones read NFC tags. Next we'll have complaints that the online tax service doesn't allow you to fill in your tax return when you don't have a computer.
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