The Irish border

[gooner1]

PurpleMoonlight said:

I don't give a stuff.

Why ask the questions then?

[PurpleMoonlight]

gooner1 said:

Why ask the questions then?

The one you didn't answer you mean?

[gooner1]

PurpleMoonlight said:

The one you didn't answer you mean?

This one?


Are we all going to get brand new ones the day after we leave?

I have no idea, I'm more concerned that a UK manufacturer
can't match or beat the French price.
You seem to express other concerns though. Ce la vie.

[FN2TypeR]

PurpleMoonlight said:

gooner1 said:

Why are you worried about colour and country of origin.?

I don't give a stuff.

So why bring it up?

Racism, protectionism or isolationist views perhaps?

[PurpleMoonlight]

gooner1 said:

This one?


Are we all going to get brand new ones the day after we leave?

I have no idea, I'm more concerned that a UK manufacturer
can't match or beat the French price.
You seem to express other concerns though. Ce la vie.

Oh, you stated this so I thought you knew something I didn't.

gooner1 said:

Not for much longer, buddy, not for much longer.

[Mrr T]

JuniorD said:

They've been counted up and there are 208 border crossings along the 310 mile frontier between NI and ROI.

In comparison, there are apparently only 137 crossings along the entire border between the whole of the EU and all of the countries to the east of the bloc.

No physical border has suited so many so well for so long.

https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-i...

With Trump’s impending visit perhaps we can ask his advice about a wall.

[loafer123]

gooner1 said:

Ce la vie.

[gooner1]

PurpleMoonlight said:

gooner1 said:

This one?


Are we all going to get brand new ones the day after we leave?

I have no idea, I'm more concerned that a UK manufacturer
can't match or beat the French price.
You seem to express other concerns though. Ce la vie.

Oh, you stated this so I thought you knew something I didn't.

gooner1 said:

Not for much longer, buddy, not for much longer.

You don't think think new passports are going to be printed then, so what exactly
is the French firm tendered for?

[davepoth]

JuniorD said:

They've been counted up and there are 208 border crossings along the 310 mile frontier between NI and ROI.

In comparison, there are apparently only 137 crossings along the entire border between the whole of the EU and all of the countries to the east of the bloc.

No physical border has suited so many so well for so long.

https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-i...

It's a good job there's going to be no physical infrastructure at the border then, surely?

[powerstroke]

Mrr T said:

With Trump’s impending visit perhaps we can ask his advice about a wall.

He would possibly say the threat is just as important as the physical thing ,

[Rostfritt]

JuniorD said:

They've been counted up and there are 208 border crossings along the 310 mile frontier between NI and ROI.

In comparison, there are apparently only 137 crossings along the entire border between the whole of the EU and all of the countries to the east of the bloc.

No physical border has suited so many so well for so long.

https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-i...

It is not just the crossings that are the issue. Even if there were frictionless crossings of every road, rail, canal and bridleway you still would suddenly be breaking the law by wandering across a field and hopping over a fence to the next one.

[Dr Jekyll]

Rostfritt said:

It is not just the crossings that are the issue. Even if there were frictionless crossings of every road, rail, canal and bridleway you still would suddenly be breaking the law by wandering across a field and hopping over a fence to the next one.

Why? There is a free travel area.

[Rostfritt]

Dr Jekyll said:

Rostfritt said:

It is not just the crossings that are the issue. Even if there were frictionless crossings of every road, rail, canal and bridleway you still would suddenly be breaking the law by wandering across a field and hopping over a fence to the next one.

Why? There is a free travel area.

There is now. But if they want to set up control points they would have to consider more than just the recognised crossings.

[Dr Jekyll]

Rostfritt said:

Dr Jekyll said:

Rostfritt said:

It is not just the crossings that are the issue. Even if there were frictionless crossings of every road, rail, canal and bridleway you still would suddenly be breaking the law by wandering across a field and hopping over a fence to the next one.

Why? There is a free travel area.

There is now. But if they want to set up control points they would have to consider more than just the recognised crossings.

But why would anyone do that? There has been a common travel area for nearly 100 years, why would crossing into NI suddenly become illegal?

[Mrr T]

Rostfritt said:

Dr Jekyll said:

Rostfritt said:

It is not just the crossings that are the issue. Even if there were frictionless crossings of every road, rail, canal and bridleway you still would suddenly be breaking the law by wandering across a field and hopping over a fence to the next one.

Why? There is a free travel area.

There is now. But if they want to set up control points they would have to consider more than just the recognised crossings.

The potentially required border controls would only apply to goods not people.

[anonymous-user]

Mrr T said:

Rostfritt said:

Dr Jekyll said:

Rostfritt said:

It is not just the crossings that are the issue. Even if there were frictionless crossings of every road, rail, canal and bridleway you still would suddenly be breaking the law by wandering across a field and hopping over a fence to the next one.

Why? There is a free travel area.

There is now. But if they want to set up control points they would have to consider more than just the recognised crossings.

The potentially required border controls would only apply to goods not people.

So nothing in place to stop those pesky EU nationals wandering into the UK ? & vice versa?
Doesn’t fit with the ‘take back control’ rhetoric

[Earthdweller]

Mrr T said:

Rostfritt said:

Dr Jekyll said:

Rostfritt said:

It is not just the crossings that are the issue. Even if there were frictionless crossings of every road, rail, canal and bridleway you still would suddenly be breaking the law by wandering across a field and hopping over a fence to the next one.

Why? There is a free travel area.

There is now. But if they want to set up control points they would have to consider more than just the recognised crossings.

The potentially required border controls would only apply to goods not people.

The common travel area dates back to the forming of the Free State .. it allows residence and free passage across the island of Ireland and the rest of the U.K.

It predates the EU by decades

The ROI is not in the Schengen area and does not have free movement of people except for U.K. and ROI nationals to move freely between the ROI and the whole of the U.K. with nationals of both States granted full residency rights in both states

[s2art]

Jimboka said:

So nothing in place to stop those pesky EU nationals wandering into the UK ? & vice versa?
Doesn’t fit with the ‘take back control’ rhetoric

Why? They could simply take a plane to Luton if they wanted to visit the UK. Why bother going via ROI?

[Earthdweller]

s2art said:

Jimboka said:

So nothing in place to stop those pesky EU nationals wandering into the UK ? & vice versa?
Doesn’t fit with the ‘take back control’ rhetoric

Why? They could simply take a plane to Luton if they wanted to visit the UK. Why bother going via ROI?

Both the U.K. and ROI have border controls .. you need to show a passport or travel document to get into either

There is free movement between UK and ROI as per the CTA

It makes no sense for a Frenchman to travel to the ROI so they can get into the U.K. .. no sense at all

[The Surveyor]

Mrr T said:

The potentially required border controls would only apply to goods not people.

The control of goods should be the easy bit, especially when one country trades in Euros, and the other in Pounds Sterling.

The sooner everybody accepts that there isn't really an 'Irish Border' question, it's really just another part of the hole 'Leave' process that is being milked for effect by the EU, it's just part of their negotiations.