The Irish border

[Murph7355]

citizensm1th said:

You see the dup staying in cahoots with the torys if they gave northern ireland to the south do you?

I can not see any loyalist party agreeing to the uk giving up NI for the sake of brexit.

That's not what I said.

[IroningMan]

I'm not sure Eire's economy has yet recovered to the point where it could afford to support Northern Ireland.

[citizensm1th]

Funkycoldribena said:

citizensm1th said:

What has amused me this evening is FCR,s attempt to fold back slashers argument about a second,third ,fourth vote.

painfully obvious from the beginning.

You don't think I was taking the piss???

I think you were trying for the opportunity to do the old switcheroo (if anyone had fell into your trap is obvious trap)

But on the other hand maybe i am over estimating your cunning and you were just taking the piss
that seems to be your default defence on the trump thread.

Maybe the posters on that thread are correct and you are just a troll out to disrupt and take the piss while adding nothing of value to any thread you post on?

Go on take this opportunity to prove them wrong and share your insights on the biggest decision we as a country are having to make?

I am rooting for you, you can prove them wrong.

[Ali G]

Irish will sort this provided sufficient flexibility in interpration of regulation.

[citizensm1th]

Murph7355 said:

citizensm1th said:

You see the dup staying in cahoots with the torys if they gave northern ireland to the south do you?

I can not see any loyalist party agreeing to the uk giving up NI for the sake of brexit.

That's not what I said.

you said the boundary changes would stop the tory government from loosing it majority that is plainly wrong

If as proposed the uk gave NI to the south the dup would drop the torys like a hot stone and the torys would not be able to govern with out them ( otherwise why bribe the dup with a billion pounds)

[Funkycoldribena]

citizensm1th said:

I think you were trying for the opportunity to do the old switcheroo (if anyone had fell into your trap is obvious trap)

But on the other hand maybe i am over estimating your cunning and you were just taking the piss
that seems to be your default defence on the trump thread.

Maybe the posters on that thread are correct and you are just a troll out to disrupt and take the piss while adding nothing of value to any thread you post on?

Go on take this opportunity to prove them wrong and share your insights on the biggest decision we as a country are having to make?

I am rooting for you, you can prove them wrong.

Are you getting your POM's POM's out then?
Thanks for giving me the opportunity but I don't have the answer. No one does.
I quite like Aherns idea but then I'm more in favour of letting the EU sort it out,every single bit of grief throughout Europe from youth unemployment to Hungary, Greece and Italy is all Brussels giant mess,let them sort it.

[citizensm1th]

Funkycoldribena said:

citizensm1th said:

I think you were trying for the opportunity to do the old switcheroo (if anyone had fell into your trap is obvious trap)

But on the other hand maybe i am over estimating your cunning and you were just taking the piss
that seems to be your default defence on the trump thread.

Maybe the posters on that thread are correct and you are just a troll out to disrupt and take the piss while adding nothing of value to any thread you post on?

Go on take this opportunity to prove them wrong and share your insights on the biggest decision we as a country are having to make?

I am rooting for you, you can prove them wrong.

Are you getting your POM's POM's out then?
Thanks for giving me the opportunity but I don't have the answer. No one does.
I quite like Aherns idea but then I'm more in favour of letting the EU sort it out,every single bit of grief throughout Europe from youth unemployment to Hungary, Greece and Italy is all Brussels giant mess,let them sort it.

Give me a F
Give me a C
Give me a R

yeaaaayyyyyyyyy

see i knew you would not let us down

Your answer begs just one question though............

If as you state every single bit of grief in Europe is down to the EU so they should sort it out is true.

Then as every bit of grief due to brexit is down to those who voted for brexit should those who voted for brexit not also be the ones to sort brexit out?

[Funkycoldribena]

citizensm1th said:

Give me a F
Give me a C
Give me a R

yeaaaayyyyyyyyy

see i knew you would not let us down

Your answer begs just one question though............

If as you state every single bit of grief in Europe is down to the EU so they should sort it out is true.

Then as every bit of grief due to brexit is down to those who voted for brexit should those who voted for brexit not also be the ones to sort brexit out?

Yep,what do you want me to do?

[citizensm1th]

Funkycoldribena said:

citizensm1th said:

Give me a F
Give me a C
Give me a R

yeaaaayyyyyyyyy

see i knew you would not let us down

Your answer begs just one question though............

If as you state every single bit of grief in Europe is down to the EU so they should sort it out is true.

Then as every bit of grief due to brexit is down to those who voted for brexit should those who voted for brexit not also be the ones to sort brexit out?

Yep,what do you want me to do?

Well admitting that it is your mess to clear up is a good start ,bravo to you for having the courage to go against one or two of your fellow brexiteers who post on here.

[Funkycoldribena]

citizensm1th said:

Well admitting that it is your mess to clear up is a good start ,bravo to you for having the courage to go against one or two of your fellow brexiteers who post on here.

Thanks,I think.
Thought I was going to have to do some sweeping or something.

[citizensm1th]

Funkycoldribena said:

citizensm1th said:

Well admitting that it is your mess to clear up is a good start ,bravo to you for having the courage to go against one or two of your fellow brexiteers who post on here.

Thanks,I think.
Thought I was going to have to do some sweeping or something.

I told you i am rooting for you

Go FCR!

[s2art]

citizensm1th said:

Then as every bit of grief due to brexit is down to those who voted for brexit should those who voted for brexit not also be the ones to sort brexit out?

Nope. Because its not something that is the gift of one party. It requires co-operation of all parties.

[Murph7355]

citizensm1th said:

you said the boundary changes would stop the tory government from loosing it majority that is plainly wrong

If as proposed the uk gave NI to the south the dup would drop the torys like a hot stone and the torys would not be able to govern with out them ( otherwise why bribe the dup with a billion pounds)

All ifs and buts of course...but:

http://www.electoralcalculus.co.uk/boundaries2018....

If voted through and the above is accurate the Tories would get a slim outright majority. They wouldn't need the DUP, so the DUP could moan all they wanted to.

Moot, of course, as (a) I doubt Eire would want the burden and (b) there's the small matter of the people of NI likely not wanting it (yet). (Not necessarily in that order ).

[B'stard Child]

citizensm1th said:

Funkycoldribena said:

citizensm1th said:

Well admitting that it is your mess to clear up is a good start ,bravo to you for having the courage to go against one or two of your fellow brexiteers who post on here.

Thanks,I think.
Thought I was going to have to do some sweeping or something.

I told you i am rooting for you

Go FCR!

Hang on FCR - I'll help sweep







I've just got round up those feckers that didn't vote or possibly couldn't vote and are still whinging about the result - I think there are a few of them so hopefully I won't be long PM, slasher coolbeans and that mario fella I reckon may be possibles

[richie99]

Boosted LS1 said:

There are smooth running electronic borders in other countries. This could work for the UK and I'm sure has been considered. There's no need or desire for a hard border. Lord knows why Eire's getting all uppity, it could explode in their face.

Would be interested to know where this is successfully established. You might be able to solve the issue.

[Eric Mc]

The problem is, we won't know what the border looks like until the final relationship between the UK and the EU is established.

It could end up being like the border between North and South Korea - or it could end up being like the border between France and Switzerland.

[Camoradi]

Of all the external borders of the EU, I think the one in Eire / NI should be the least of their worries.

[Mrr T]

Murph7355 said:

All ifs and buts of course...but:

http://www.electoralcalculus.co.uk/boundaries2018....

If voted through and the above is accurate the Tories would get a slim outright majority. They wouldn't need the DUP, so the DUP could moan all they wanted to.

Moot, of course, as (a) I doubt Eire would want the burden and (b) there's the small matter of the people of NI likely not wanting it (yet). (Not necessarily in that order ).

Did you miss the election this year where TM turned a workable majority into a minority government who then had to bung a lot on money to some nuts from NI to keep a slim majority? The agreement with the DUP does not cover boundary changes so there is no chance of them happening.

Top performance by TM and team.

[confused_buyer]

citizensm1th said:

If as proposed the uk gave NI to the south the dup would drop the torys like a hot stone and the torys would not be able to govern with out them ( otherwise why bribe the dup with a billion pounds)

There is a small issue with that idea in that it isn't even clear if the people of NI would want it. Are you seriously suggesting we just randomly give over bits of the UK to different countries without even asking?

You tend to find even the Nationalist community in NI is all in favour of the theory of the United Ireland, then they do a quick Google and check RoI NHS provisions, taxes, benefits and how much massive state job subsidy the North currently gets from the UK and they go a bit cool on the idea.

[confused_buyer]

hidetheelephants said:

Of course, joining EFTA would more or less avoid all this bks and kick the whole issue into the long grass.

Well, actually, it wouldn't as there are customs controls between EFTA and the EU.