Moped-riding thieves murder man for his Rolex watch.

[Willy Nilly]

Gecko1978 said:

Seventy said:

Joey Deacon said:

100% agree with you, I was just (obviously quite badly) trying to point out how messed up some of the opinions on the watch forum are.

Yipper AND Scherzkeks in the same post!!
Comedy gold!

Eta I hope that's 35 with no parole.

where a sentence is life it does actually mean life upto a point you can request parole. Thus 12 to life is 12 years then apply for parole so in this case 35 years will mean just that

Someone who is sentenced to life has the sentence for their entire life. If they get released they are only released on license and can be recalled to jail at any time.

[Gecko1978]

Willy Nilly said:

Gecko1978 said:

Seventy said:

Joey Deacon said:

100% agree with you, I was just (obviously quite badly) trying to point out how messed up some of the opinions on the watch forum are.

Yipper AND Scherzkeks in the same post!!
Comedy gold!

Eta I hope that's 35 with no parole.

where a sentence is life it does actually mean life upto a point you can request parole. Thus 12 to life is 12 years then apply for parole so in this case 35 years will mean just that

Someone who is sentenced to life has the sentence for their entire life. If they get released they are only released on license and can be recalled to jail at any time.

to be clear I was not saying you get released and you are free etc you are in licence for life but unlike many offenses you serve at least the sentenced years. so in theory life could be 12 months in prison then 50 years on license as well as being 35 years in this case plus whats left of your life.

my hope they are broken become addicted to drugs get hepatitis and die a slow death but either way 35 years on they are gojng to be ruined...just life the lives of the family of the victim

[loafer123]

Ayahuasca said:

Must admit (hangs head) to wearing a Rolex (40mm Sea Dweller for the watcheristas amongst us), and have thought about what I would do if anyone tried to relieve me of it. Of course until actually in that situation you do not know how you would react, but I don't think I would surrender it easily.

I have actually taken it off and slipped it into my pocket a few times when I realised I was being stupid to have a mugger magnet in my wrist, and in Latin America where I am most of the time it is replaced by a Casio GShock (which keeps better time).

I also have a Sea Dweller. I haven’t worn it for months. One of my businesses is in Shepherds Bush, and it has become even more dodgy around there recently.

[Digga]

gothatway said:

Willy Nilly said:

They're on nicked bikes with no number plates and out committing crime, do you think that banning them carrying a pillion will put them off?

You miss my point entirely. Anyone carrying a pillion would be causing an offence and could be stopped.

I thought anyone who was an accessory to murder was now being done under the joint enterprise rules? Clearly not in this case.

[Carl_Manchester]

Loyly said:

Joey Deacon said:

But according to the watch sub forum on here, a Rolex is just a knocking about watch why would anybody want to steal it?

scherzkeks said:

jshell said:

Yipper said:

Rolex watches are bland and dull and few people bat an eyelid at them. A relative has one that he has worn every day for ~30 years, and only ~2 people have ever asked to see it closer in all that time.

One of the many reasons why I buy and wear them.

The others include: reliability, robustness (the clasps are now the best and the bezel is ceramic), timekeeping, classic designs, look better well worn and beaten up, and value retention.

Right.

One of the most recognized luxury items in the world.

"I buy them to fly under the radar and because I can bang them up without worry."

Powerfully built company director, and so on ...

The watch forum has long been and gathering hub for PH's biggest tts, it was a daily feature in the cringe thread.

putting aside the appalling act that this topic is discussing. a rolex is like buying a porsche sports car. it is reliable, technically competent, easy to get serviced, generally not too flashy and you can sell it on fairly easily.

there are manufacturers which exceed Rolex for not much more money but the fail in the other aspects as outlined above.

in addition it is probably the only widely accepted form of male jewellery - by women. in truth a stainless steel Omega speedmaster is all you ever need. a good woman will never dismiss you because you don’t have a watch but you will be dismissed if you wear a crude, flashy piece favoured by eastern european criminals.

a stylish, functional piece on the other hand shows style, character and good taste. this is why rolex submariners are ten a penny and why you should never buy or wear one.

there are tools all over this forum so let’s not get too sniffy about the watch forum. Yipper calling out the mental? well I never.

[James_B]

gothatway said:

I guess these moped crimes always involve rider and pillion ?
If so, how many law-abiding people would be significantly inconvenienced by banning pillions on mopeds ? Given the public transport network in London, I would have thought it would be very few, and it would afford the police a better opportunity to stop the offenders before they attacked.

I see many people with a pillion on the commute every day.

So the answer is a great many.

I’m not sure if you know, but stabbing someone to death is already illegal. Adding the offence of riding with a pillion is not going to stop them, and the police have no way to enforce the ban.

[James_B]

gothatway said:

You miss my point entirely. Anyone carrying a pillion would be causing an offence and could be stopped.

How? What possible method do you I angine would be used in Central London if the police saw someone breaking the law?

Would you suggest stingers and just not worrying too much about maiming tourists and visitors who were not aware of the law?

[audidoody]

Carl_Manchester said:

putting aside the appalling act that this topic is discussing. a rolex is like buying a porsche sports car. it is reliable, technically competent, easy to get serviced, generally not too flashy and you can sell it on fairly easily.

there are manufacturers which exceed Rolex for not much more money but the fail in the other aspects as outlined above.

in addition it is probably the only widely accepted form of male jewellery - by women. in truth a stainless steel Omega speedmaster is all you ever need. a good woman will never dismiss you because you don’t have a watch but you will be dismissed if you wear a crude, flashy piece favoured by eastern european criminals.

a stylish, functional piece on the other hand shows style, character and good taste. this is why rolex submariners are ten a penny and why you should never buy or wear one.

there are tools all over this forum so let’s not get too sniffy about the watch forum. Yipper calling out the mental? well I never.

I bought your book. Really enjoyable.

[DurianIceCream]

gothatway said:

You miss my point entirely. Anyone carrying a pillion would be causing an offence and could be stopped.

Who is going to stop them? The police don't stop moped riders riding mopeds with no plates and who don't wear helmets, so who is going to stop mopeds with a passenger?

[jdw100]

I've come out of that jazz club with a girlfriend several times and most likely wearing a rolex as well.

Seems like he got the right kind of sentence. This was no spur of the moment, act of stupidity type of crime. This was totally pre-mediated, they went out prepared to injure or kill to get what they wanted.

I'd not like this young criminal's life to go totally to waste though. I'd like to see (after a couple of years of him settling into the system) him be taken in cuffs to schools in the area and to talk to pupils about what he did and how he has wasted two lives.

Perhaps he could do this with, say, five schools on a regular basis and the pupils can see that as they move on with their lives his is standing still...maybe it might convince one or two to change their minds about following his path? Give him an opportunity to give something back, assuming he wants to?

[Cobnapint]

jdw100 said:

I'd not like this young criminal's life to go totally to waste though. I'd like to see (after a couple of years of him settling into the system) him be taken in cuffs to schools in the area and to talk to pupils about what he did and how he has wasted two lives.

Perhaps he could do this with, say, five schools on a regular basis and the pupils can see that as they move on with their lives his is standing still...maybe it might convince one or two to change their minds about following his path? Give him an opportunity to give something back, assuming he wants to?

What a good idea.

[MrBarry123]

croyde said:

Good point.

Somalia it is then, after severing his spinal cord.

I just want him to have the most miserable long painful life.

I'd also like it to suffer horrific physical trauma however given that's not an option, I think 35 years is a good punishment.

As it's since been mentioned, 35 years is long enough that when he is finally released, he'll have absolutely no ability to build a life for himself outside of prison. Any family he has now will have either died or want nothing to do with him. There'll be little assistance provided by the state and the world he was familiar with will have changed unrecognisably in that period. Because it's unlikely he'd have suffered any long-lasting physical abuse during his time in jail, he won't get sympathy from anyone and will become largely forgotten. No-one will give him a second thought, let alone care for him.

As a result, he'll feel completely and utterly hopeless for the remainder of his worthless life, which is exactly how I want him to feel. Scum.