Peter Kay Tour Cancelled

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wjwren

4,484 posts

135 months

Thursday 14th December 2017
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Looking on ebay there have been lots of tickets sold for £200 odd. Can these people get a refund through ebay? Or just face value?

AJL308

6,390 posts

156 months

Thursday 14th December 2017
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CoolHands said:
This-isnt-real said:
Wow, just wow.

How about you just mind your own bloody business
It is my business he's a public figure
Not if he keeps the private part of his life private it isn't.


Edited by AJL308 on Thursday 14th December 12:37

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 14th December 2017
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wjwren said:
Looking on ebay there have been lots of tickets sold for £200 odd. Can these people get a refund through ebay? Or just face value?
I'm pretty sure the only guaranteed total refunds are from the first tier ticket companies, such as Ticketmaster.

Once you're into the Tier 2 companies and beyond I think it's pot luck as to what you get.

Yidwann

1,872 posts

210 months

Thursday 14th December 2017
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It would be interesting to see though, say Ticketmaster for example, also own the secondary ticketing websites that the tickets all appear on in seconds after they went on sale..... this would be a nice high profile case now to start insisting that their own secondary sites start offering refunds at the prices they gave the opportunity people to sell at. The whole secondary selling thing boils my piss more than most things! Flight of the Conchords tickets were the same last month, sold out in seconds....

On Topic though, hope everything goes ok for them, I think he's a comic genius, Phoenix Nights will always have me in stitches!

DuraAce

4,240 posts

160 months

Thursday 14th December 2017
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shakotan said:
eBay don't even allow the sale of tickets on the site, haven't for years, so you'd have to be even dumber to purchase them from there.
How can you purchase from ebay if they don't allow any ticket sales?! (I think they do allow it as there are loads on there for sale, surely they'd be quickly removed if it wasn't allowed?)

98elise

26,619 posts

161 months

Thursday 14th December 2017
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AJL308 said:
CoolHands said:
This-isnt-real said:
Wow, just wow.

How about you just mind your own bloody business
It is my business he's a public figure
Not if he keeps the privater part of his life private it isn't.
Agreed. Just because someone is known to you, it doesn't mean you have a right to know their private life.


anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 14th December 2017
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Yidwann said:
Flight of the Conchords tickets were the same last month, sold out in seconds....
I would have loved to have seen them too!

Legacywr

12,136 posts

188 months

Thursday 14th December 2017
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I think it’s perfectly human, and reasonable, to be intrigued as to why the tour has been cancelled.

Megaflow

9,424 posts

225 months

Thursday 14th December 2017
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Dr Murdoch said:
Timbergiant said:
I've never found him funny, when I heard the news I thought maybe he’d been shown one of his live shows on dvd and decided to pack in.
Clearly it takes one to know one...
Indeed. I don’t find him particularly funny either. But here was no need for that comment.

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

126 months

Thursday 14th December 2017
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98elise said:
AJL308 said:
Not if he keeps the privater part of his life private it isn't.
Agreed. Just because someone is known to you, it doesn't mean you have a right to know their private life.
In that case, I find myself idly wondering how much he's earned from his two volumes (to date) of autobiography.

WCZ

10,531 posts

194 months

Thursday 14th December 2017
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mcg_ said:
Do you work for the daily mail?
https://www.seetickets.com/tour/peter-kay

look at how many dates he was due to perform at and look at the capacities of the venues + the price of the tickets.
not sure whats daily mail about him pointing out the amount of money he was about to make? to forfeit that kind of pay day you'd have to have a good reason

Loyly

17,996 posts

159 months

Thursday 14th December 2017
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Legacywr said:
I think it’s perfectly human, and reasonable, to be intrigued as to why the tour has been cancelled.
Indeed it is, though I don't expect to be informed as to why. Peter Kay has always been a private man away from his public work and he should rightly expect his privacy be respected.

B17NNS

18,506 posts

247 months

Thursday 14th December 2017
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alangla said:
I stumbled on this in my local library a couple of years ago - https://www.amazon.co.uk/Ticket-Masters-Josh-Baron... - well worth a read. Explains, in layman's terms, how things got to the state they're in now. From memory, I think it covers the rise of the bots, but it was written in 2011, so a few years out of date.
Cheers, I'll take a look. Another problem now is that some of the artists are in on it too. Fees to play often exceeding total value of ticket sales. Demanding huge blocks of tickets for themselves as part of their riders which they then sell on the secondary market. All the while leaving the face value low so they don't look like they're extorting their fans.

All completely avoidable with modern tech. Face printed on the ticket... Present credit card used along with ticket... Lots of ways to stop it. Nobody seems to want to.

FiF

44,095 posts

251 months

Thursday 14th December 2017
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garyhun said:
wjwren said:
Looking on ebay there have been lots of tickets sold for £200 odd. Can these people get a refund through ebay? Or just face value?
I'm pretty sure the only guaranteed total refunds are from the first tier ticket companies, such as Ticketmaster.

Once you're into the Tier 2 companies and beyond I think it's pot luck as to what you get.
Yep just had an email from Ticketmaster saying all money and fees to be refunded to crefit card used for purchase in ten days.

Now suppose I'd printed those tickets out, sold them wherever for a couple of hundred each, then ignored all emails from buyer. There will be some who will do exactly that.

SydneyBridge

8,614 posts

158 months

Thursday 14th December 2017
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has anyone actually received the physical tickets yet though??
they normally get sent out nearer the show.

iphonedyou

9,253 posts

157 months

Thursday 14th December 2017
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This-isnt-real said:
Wow, just wow.
Has anybody ever said this in real life? It always strikes me as quite an affectation.

FiF

44,095 posts

251 months

Thursday 14th December 2017
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SydneyBridge said:
has anyone actually received the physical tickets yet though??
they normally get sent out nearer the show.
You had the option to print them out, presumably immediately? I couldn't do that, long story, so they would have come out in post at some point.

Surely nobody has bought tickets from a reseller on the promise that they will be sent out nearer the date?

gazza285

9,814 posts

208 months

Thursday 14th December 2017
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Yipper said:
Various reports are saying he will lose £10-40m from the cancelled tour. Must be serious to forego that kind of dough.
He hasn't lost anything. To lose something, first you must have it.

Shakermaker

11,317 posts

100 months

Thursday 14th December 2017
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FiF said:
SydneyBridge said:
has anyone actually received the physical tickets yet though??
they normally get sent out nearer the show.
You had the option to print them out, presumably immediately? I couldn't do that, long story, so they would have come out in post at some point.

Surely nobody has bought tickets from a reseller on the promise that they will be sent out nearer the date?
No, not immediately.

I bought some gig tickets a few months ago and was only emailed the "download" access a few weeks before the event.

Quite clearly on the front of the ticket when I did print it out it also said "If you copy or print more than one ticket, only the first one scanned will be admitted into the arena" so if you resell the tickets multiple times, then only the first people get in.

Some venues let you have the ticket on your smartphone so you don't even have to print them out.

Sadly, I saw a few people being turned away very unhappy as they tried to scan their tickets, as clearly they had been scammed.

I've bought tickets online in the past, years ago on eBay, and had no problems as they were all honest sellers, and I sold tickets on eBay as well for gigs i couldn't get to, and again, had no problems, But this is well before stubhub and GetMeIn type places sprang up.

ALawson

7,815 posts

251 months

Thursday 14th December 2017
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gazza285 said:
He hasn't lost anything. To lose something, first you must have it.
Are there any upfront costs for booking venues which are non refundable so would he have insurance for that?

My wife got a refund yesterday by Ticketmaster I think.