Another prove your innocence case
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s2art said:
Stay in Bed Instead said:
Yet no doubt it would if the perpetrator was male and the victim female.
You attitude of trivialising sexual abuse of boys sucks to be honest.
In what universe is a horny 13 year old lad shagging a willing hot 17 year old girl 'abuse'? Technically illegal perhaps, but abuse?You attitude of trivialising sexual abuse of boys sucks to be honest.
s2art said:
Another non PC vote here. If I at 13 had the opportunity to shag a hot 17 year old I would have perceived it as the exact opposite of abuse. Like it or not boys and girls are different.
We're continually informed that to have such thoughts is wrong in this day and age.......s2art said:
In what universe is a horny 13 year old lad shagging a willing hot 17 year old girl 'abuse'? Technically illegal perhaps, but abuse?
I'm with you, some of these posters are not of this planet! Or they are utterly unfamiliar with sex. At 13 I'd have even whipped out a condom and saved the whole fertilisation scenario! I'd have shagged my mates ugly mum...and never once have cried 'abuse'.On the other hand, I was directly propositioned for sex by a 14 yr old when I was 15 and a 13 year old when I was 16. I turned both down as they were under age of consent. The boy who 'stepped up' for the 13 year old had a rather nasty and deserved visit from the police...
All these circular arguments are centered on the definition of Abuse. Apparently anything descriptive and/or critical one does, says, or thinks that involves another person is or can be abusive. And that's plain and simple cobblers. If what is here considered to be a victim, obviously he was a very willing participant in breaking the law, so he is equally guilty in his own 'abuse'... er… like most nights when on his own probably.
Stay in Bed Instead said:
s2art said:
In what universe is a horny 13 year old lad shagging a willing hot 17 year old girl 'abuse'? Technically illegal perhaps, but abuse?
What's this technically?It's unlawful. It's child abuse. End of discussion.
Now *that's* the real end of the discussion
Stay in Bed Instead said:
What's this technically?
It's unlawful. It's child abuse. End of discussion.
It's not unlawful, it's illegal.It's unlawful. It's child abuse. End of discussion.
Despite this I doubt any actual harm was done regardless of the technicality of it being child abuse.The kid might well be bragging about it forever more.
I accept that my view isn't PC
Agammemnon said:
Stay in Bed Instead said:
What's this technically?
It's unlawful. It's child abuse. End of discussion.
It's not unlawful, it's illegal.It's unlawful. It's child abuse. End of discussion.
Despite this I doubt any actual harm was done regardless of the technicality of it being child abuse.The kid might well be bragging about it forever more.
I accept that my view isn't PC
s2art said:
Agammemnon said:
Stay in Bed Instead said:
What's this technically?
It's unlawful. It's child abuse. End of discussion.
It's not unlawful, it's illegal.It's unlawful. It's child abuse. End of discussion.
Despite this I doubt any actual harm was done regardless of the technicality of it being child abuse.The kid might well be bragging about it forever more.
I accept that my view isn't PC
Hope this one doesnt cause a headache
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-51735185
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-51752649
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-51735185
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-51752649
saaby93 said:
Hope this one doesnt cause a headache
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-51735185
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-51752649
Hmm - Interesting that (from the report) they did their investigations before she left the store - I was always of the belief that they couldn't prove intent unless the person had left the store ie. she could say any time before leaving "oh I need to pay for these".https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-51735185
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-51752649
Crazy, when we have young tea leaves just grabbing handfuls of goods and running out of stores and the Police reaction is "down to the store" that a petty thing such as this should be taken to court. If some compassion had been shown and they gifted them to her (I suspect she hasn't stolen them anyway) and they treated her kindly, she'd feel so bad about it that she'd never do it again. These things are easily done anyway.... A couple of times over the years I've put a paper under my arm and carried other goods to the checkout and the till assistant has said " did you want the paper as well?" I didn't intend to avoid paying, and felt bad that I'd done it - I'd have been horrified if they'd said "right, we're getting Police etc"
Fastpedeller said:
If some compassion had been shown and they gifted them to her (I suspect she hasn't stolen them anyway) and they treated her kindly, she'd feel so bad about it that she'd never do it again.
What charming naivety. I can genuinely believe that you're a really nice person. I suspect that many shoplifters are less so.Agammemnon said:
Fastpedeller said:
If some compassion had been shown and they gifted them to her (I suspect she hasn't stolen them anyway) and they treated her kindly, she'd feel so bad about it that she'd never do it again.
What charming naivety. I can genuinely believe that you're a really nice person. I suspect that many shoplifters are less so.Agammemnon said:
Fastpedeller said:
And I can believe that a 'professional shoplifter' would take far more than a couple of pounds worth of headache tablets!
Some thieving buggers have small ambitions or believe that small thefts are in some way more acceptable?In this particular case the lady could also have early dementia/laps of memory. My late mother got dementia and started going to a large supermarket and putting things into her bag without paying - the store were very understanding. other times she was 'on the ball' and you'd think there wasn't a health problem.
jshell said:
Can't a teacher have any fun now? 
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-nottinghamsh...
Sounds a lot like some of the teachers I had. Kids are snowflakes these days.https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-nottinghamsh...Gassing Station | News, Politics & Economics | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff