Another prove your innocence case

Another prove your innocence case

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saaby93

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32,038 posts

179 months

Wednesday 17th October 2018
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No retrial
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-4589...

How do they turn the clock back as if the trial hadnt happened?

Thorodin

2,459 posts

134 months

Wednesday 17th October 2018
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Sounds like they haven't done that. The jury foreman told the judge there was no realistic proposition a majority verdict would be forthcoming. So the charge would be dismissed. I think.

amusingduck

9,398 posts

137 months

Thursday 18th October 2018
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saaby93 said:
No retrial
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-4589...

How do they turn the clock back as if the trial hadnt happened?


Top notch editing at the BBC rofl

Burwood

18,709 posts

247 months

Thursday 18th October 2018
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saaby93 said:
No retrial
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-4589...

How do they turn the clock back as if the trial hadnt happened?
Disgraceful situation. Poor woman

saaby93

Original Poster:

32,038 posts

179 months

Thursday 18th October 2018
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Burwood said:
saaby93 said:
No retrial
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-4589...

How do they turn the clock back as if the trial hadnt happened?
Disgraceful situation. Poor woman
mail trawling through her past
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6288243/P...
not too much different to anyone else?

Zetec-S

5,924 posts

94 months

Thursday 18th October 2018
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Burwood said:
saaby93 said:
No retrial
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-4589...

How do they turn the clock back as if the trial hadnt happened?
Disgraceful situation. Poor woman
scratchchin Maybe, maybe not. Whether or not she had sex with the pupil on the plane, it's pretty clear the boundaries between teacher and pupil were blurred...

article said:
In court, Miss Wilson admitted seeing the pupil on these occasions and texting him ‘almost daily’ over the summer, but said these meetings were innocent and because she had ‘no one else to turn to’

Burwood

18,709 posts

247 months

Thursday 18th October 2018
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In light of further evidence I've changed my mind. She most likely did it and shouldn't be around school kids

techguyone

3,137 posts

143 months

Thursday 18th October 2018
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She was banned in 2017 and is now a civil servant.

saaby93

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32,038 posts

179 months

Thursday 18th October 2018
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Burwood said:
In light of further evidence I've changed my mind. She most likely did it and shouldn't be around school kids
How many people have been locked up on that basis scratchchin

Burwood

18,709 posts

247 months

Thursday 18th October 2018
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saaby93 said:
Burwood said:
In light of further evidence I've changed my mind. She most likely did it and shouldn't be around school kids
How many people have been locked up on that basis scratchchin
Not enough to convict but enough to dismiss from her job

saaby93

Original Poster:

32,038 posts

179 months

Thursday 18th October 2018
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Burwood said:
saaby93 said:
Burwood said:
In light of further evidence I've changed my mind. She most likely did it and shouldn't be around school kids
How many people have been locked up on that basis scratchchin
Not enough to convict but enough to dismiss from her job
Separate matter - whether it should have been enough or not could be a separate matter too?

Back to the case in hand- how much of accusations should be put in the public eye, and how much should be witheld until proven?

techguyone

3,137 posts

143 months

Friday 19th October 2018
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I don't know what was visible until the court case, it never crossed any of my news streams until then.

andy_s

19,412 posts

260 months

Sunday 25th November 2018
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This may help...

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/nov...

'Juries have no place in rape trials. They simply can’t be trusted'

saaby93

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32,038 posts

179 months

Sunday 25th November 2018
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andy_s said:
This may help...

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/nov...

'Juries have no place in rape trials. They simply can’t be trusted'
and
'Look, for example, at the Ched Evans case, a footballer who was convicted of rape but later had his conviction quashed and was acquitted at a retrial that relied on evidence of the complainant’s alleged sexual history. Despite some male barristers arguing that feminist campaigners were overreacting, the case showed us how women in rape cases are often more on trial than the defendant.'

We know now that she cried wolf in previous relations
How is a jury to know that without uncovering previous?

anonymous-user

55 months

Sunday 25th November 2018
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saaby93 said:
and
'Look, for example, at the Ched Evans case, a footballer who was convicted of rape but later had his conviction quashed and was acquitted at a retrial that relied on evidence of the complainant’s alleged sexual history. Despite some male barristers arguing that feminist campaigners were overreacting, the case showed us how women in rape cases are often more on trial than the defendant.'

We know now that she cried wolf in previous relations
How is a jury to know that without uncovering previous?
If you are talking about the additional evidence presented at the second trial-that most definitely was not the complainant 'crying wolf' in previous relations.

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2016/oct/14/ca...

saaby93

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179 months

Sunday 25th November 2018
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cookie118 said:
saaby93 said:
and
'Look, for example, at the Ched Evans case, a footballer who was convicted of rape but later had his conviction quashed and was acquitted at a retrial that relied on evidence of the complainant’s alleged sexual history. Despite some male barristers arguing that feminist campaigners were overreacting, the case showed us how women in rape cases are often more on trial than the defendant.'

We know now that she cried wolf in previous relations
How is a jury to know that without uncovering previous?
If you are talking about the additional evidence presented at the second trial-that most definitely was not the complainant 'crying wolf' in previous relations.

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2016/oct/14/ca...
In the cases reported there you can see that she was the lead in the encounters
It seems that in the first Evans trial that wasnt believed.

There was apparantly another another report that after the activity she'd gone on to complain/regret she hadnt wanted to do it after all
Same as the Evans case?


anonymous-user

55 months

Sunday 25th November 2018
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saaby93 said:
In the cases reported there you can see that she was the lead in the encounters
It seems that in the first Evans trial that wasnt believed.

There was apparantly another another report that after the activity she'd gone on to complain/regret she hadnt wanted to do it after all
Same as the Evans case?
And that still is not 'crying wolf'.

saaby93

Original Poster:

32,038 posts

179 months

Sunday 25th November 2018
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cookie118 said:
saaby93 said:
In the cases reported there you can see that she was the lead in the encounters
It seems that in the first Evans trial that wasnt believed.

There was apparantly another another report that after the activity she'd gone on to complain/regret she hadnt wanted to do it after all
Same as the Evans case?
And that still is not 'crying wolf'.
Thought it was
What's your meaning of crying wolf?

anonymous-user

55 months

Sunday 25th November 2018
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saaby93 said:
Wha do you mean by crying wolf?
To raise a false alarm. How about you?

saaby93

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32,038 posts

179 months

Sunday 25th November 2018
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cookie118 said:
saaby93 said:
Wha do you mean by crying wolf?
To raise a false alarm. How about you?
saying something hadnt happened when it had?