Devon mud hut couple offered Travelodge
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-devon-4236668...
Really? Why do councils have to stick their noses into everything. It's a mud hut, on the couples own land....
How much will re-homing them cost? Bloody councils
Really? Why do councils have to stick their noses into everything. It's a mud hut, on the couples own land....
How much will re-homing them cost? Bloody councils
Hoofy said:
I agree with you but I think the issue is the lack of planning permission and if the council turn a blind eye for one thing, then they will have a problem with other applications that they want to turn down for the right reasons.
The mud people need to either know someone on the council or line their palms with silver
I had a planning application rejected about 7 years ago and at the same meeting there was a group of people trying to get planning for the static caravans (or whatever) they had on their land which was refused....
7 years later they’re still there. I still don’t have planning on my legitimately owned bit of land either but I’m not taking the piss out of the council either.
7 years later they’re still there. I still don’t have planning on my legitimately owned bit of land either but I’m not taking the piss out of the council either.
Butter Face said:
I had a planning application rejected about 7 years ago and at the same meeting there was a group of people trying to get planning for the static caravans (or whatever) they had on their land which was refused....
7 years later they’re still there. I still don’t have planning on my legitimately owned bit of land either but I’m not taking the piss out of the council either.
Claim to be a Caravan Using Nomadic Type !!!! 7 years later they’re still there. I still don’t have planning on my legitimately owned bit of land either but I’m not taking the piss out of the council either.
round here it seems to work ....
Not a planning expert but round my way (AONB, SSI and Green Belt) planning is required for permanent structures, I am not sure a mud hut would be classified as a permanent building.
This is of course assuming that the land it is on is designated as residential land so is being used for its intended purpose rather than agricultural land that they have decided to live on, that would need planning permission for change of use.
This is of course assuming that the land it is on is designated as residential land so is being used for its intended purpose rather than agricultural land that they have decided to live on, that would need planning permission for change of use.
Moonhawk said:
Why didn't they just apply for planning permission - like everyone else has to do.
Sorry - I have no sympathy for people who knowingly try to circumvent the rules - then cry to the tabloids about it when it goes tits up.
This.Sorry - I have no sympathy for people who knowingly try to circumvent the rules - then cry to the tabloids about it when it goes tits up.
As soon as they start saying "Oh, well, let's let this one slide because we quite like it...", that's a floodgate opened.
I see the lady of the house suffers from "Multiple Chemical Sensitivity, also known as idiopathic environmental intolerance".
This reminds me of the girl singer from 70s pop group Picketywitch (IIRC) who was suffering from "Total Allergy Syndrome". She was allergic to all 20th Century materials and was only able to come into contact with totally natural materials such as "wood, cotton, china and stainless steel." It was so bad that she was forced to live in isolation inside a plastic bubble...........
This reminds me of the girl singer from 70s pop group Picketywitch (IIRC) who was suffering from "Total Allergy Syndrome". She was allergic to all 20th Century materials and was only able to come into contact with totally natural materials such as "wood, cotton, china and stainless steel." It was so bad that she was forced to live in isolation inside a plastic bubble...........
CanAm said:
She was allergic to all 20th Century materials and was only able to come into contact with totally natural materials such as "wood, cotton, china and stainless steel." It was so bad that she was forced to live in isolation inside a plastic bubble...........
I detect a slight problem, there...Not sure that stainless steel qualifies as a 'totally natural material', either!
Equus said:
CanAm said:
She was allergic to all 20th Century materials and was only able to come into contact with totally natural materials such as "wood, cotton, china and stainless steel." It was so bad that she was forced to live in isolation inside a plastic bubble...........
I detect a slight problem, there...Not sure that stainless steel qualifies as a 'totally natural material', either!
carreauchompeur said:
That does make me a little sad, society is richer for having oddballs on the fringes. However, there is the danger of setting precedents...
I reckon that we'd stand something like a 70% chance of getting them the necessary permission if they took us on as their Planning Consultants; 95% chance if they were willing to move to Wales (different rules, which are actually very supportive of genuine 'off grid' living).Their problem is that it could cost them many £thousands in consultancy fees, to deal with the paperwork and bureaucracy. The 'system' is not straightforward or transparent, to the amateur.
Just leave them be for Gods sake, I realise the precedent set, but this is a fairly exceptional circumstance.
Theya re not hurting anyone, have proved themselves to be totally self sufficient and the council are wasting taxpayers money pursuing a couple who every seems to not care about but some t
t in an office who has been given a pointless target to hit and is picking on these two.
Just bloody leave them alone, or face the wrath of the crusties!!
I honestly see no story here other than an over zealous cretin at the council
Theya re not hurting anyone, have proved themselves to be totally self sufficient and the council are wasting taxpayers money pursuing a couple who every seems to not care about but some t
t in an office who has been given a pointless target to hit and is picking on these two.Just bloody leave them alone, or face the wrath of the crusties!!
I honestly see no story here other than an over zealous cretin at the council
Hoofy said:
I agree with you but I think the issue is the lack of planning permission and if the council turn a blind eye for one thing, then they will have a problem with other applications that they want to turn down for the right reasons.
They should have got planning.Also if there is an existing building there,even if mud, in future it may make it easier to build on it.
chunder27 said:
...but this is a fairly exceptional circumstance.
Is it?It's somebody who's built on their land, without PP, and has come up with an implausible sob-story to justify it. That's not that exceptional. It certainly wouldn't be particularly exceptional if it was given the nod.
Equus said:
I reckon that we'd stand something like a 70% chance of getting them the necessary permission if they took us on as their Planning Consultants; 95% chance if they were willing to move to Wales (different rules, which are actually very supportive of genuine 'off grid' living).
Their problem is that it could cost them many £thousands in consultancy fees, to deal with the paperwork and bureaucracy. The 'system' is not straightforward or transparent, to the amateur.
Or you could do the work pro bono and the local paper would fall over themselves to print the story (and half a dozen follow-ups).Their problem is that it could cost them many £thousands in consultancy fees, to deal with the paperwork and bureaucracy. The 'system' is not straightforward or transparent, to the amateur.
For what it'd actually cost you...
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