For those who like to point out grammar mistakes...
Discussion
ferrariF50lover said:
I'm au fait with tautology, but pleonasm is new to me. I've had a look on Google and I can't quite discern exactly how they're different. Will you explain with examples?
Well, a pleonasm is a case of more words being used than necessary; a tautology is using different words to say the same thing. Pleonasm: “a round circle”. Tautology: “he was born on the day of his birth”.Plagiarism at it's finest.
gooner1 said:
Well, a pleonasm is a case of more words being used than necessary; a tautology is using different words to say the same thing. Pleonasm: “a round circle”. Tautology: “he was born on the day of his birth”.
Plagiarism at it's finest.
Thank you.Plagiarism at it's finest.
6am in the morning - pleonasm.
0600am in the morning - a clear way to identify the world's stupidest man.
Would your opening "well" count?
SlimJim16v said:
Most mistakes I can ignore, other than when it makes what I'm reading difficult to understand. However, this really f
king winds me up. Should we accept it without ridicule?
No, we shouldn't accept it.king winds me up. Should we accept it without ridicule?knob said:
If you are not looking for comment then I probably wouldn't of made a thread.
We all make mistakes. It is inevitable. One grammatical error can be a misfortune; two or more looks like you could not care less.
As mentioned earlier in this thread and I fully concur.
There is a difference between posting something in a rush and creating a fat finger typo and knowing that you are probably making errors and not using the spellchecker when the software provides a wavy red or green underline.
I'm far from perfect but like to try to get things 'right'.
I don't understand those that just don't care and make no effort to improve their use of the language.
I would classify myself as an extrovert, get irked by bad spelling and grammar, but it doesn't spoil my day!
As mentioned earlier in this thread and I fully concur.
There is a difference between posting something in a rush and creating a fat finger typo and knowing that you are probably making errors and not using the spellchecker when the software provides a wavy red or green underline.
I'm far from perfect but like to try to get things 'right'.
I don't understand those that just don't care and make no effort to improve their use of the language.
I would classify myself as an extrovert, get irked by bad spelling and grammar, but it doesn't spoil my day!
I wonder when people point out these grammatical errors if they ever give a seconds thought to how it may make the person involved feel?
Last night by sheer chance there was a piece on the local news about a volunteer centre where people give up their time to teach adults who can't read so by extension probably aren't the best at writing.
They had a chap who was probably mid-20's explaining his difficulties and how the centre had helped him to get on a little in life and I couldn't help but think that if it were me I wouldn't want to be on TV opening myself up to that kind of scrutiny - it seemed like quite a courageous thing to do.
It might be worth thinking about the fact that you don't know peoples backgrounds or how difficult some people may find what you're lucky enough to take for granted when offering "useful" little nuggets such as "it's their".
Last night by sheer chance there was a piece on the local news about a volunteer centre where people give up their time to teach adults who can't read so by extension probably aren't the best at writing.
They had a chap who was probably mid-20's explaining his difficulties and how the centre had helped him to get on a little in life and I couldn't help but think that if it were me I wouldn't want to be on TV opening myself up to that kind of scrutiny - it seemed like quite a courageous thing to do.
It might be worth thinking about the fact that you don't know peoples backgrounds or how difficult some people may find what you're lucky enough to take for granted when offering "useful" little nuggets such as "it's their".
It's like trying to explain to a Welsh person that 'yer' 'yer' and 'yer' are actually three different words. I think they understand it, but they'll always pronounce them the same...
Come yer now. You've had those yerings in your yers all yer.
(Come here now. You've had those earings in your ears all year).
Same as Welsh people (in the main) know that vijo is actually spelled "v-i-d-e-o".
But the difference is that (most) Welsh people won't write those words all the same, although they don't sound different when they speak them.
If someone is consistently using the incorrect word, where/were, of/have, their/there, etc, then surely they shouldn't be so damned ungrateful and/or plain aggresive when their error is pointed out in the relatively unimportant environs of an internet forum? Better to get over the embarrassment in such a situation before you blindly stumble off to misuse the language you were (generalising, but it's true for the majority of PHers) born to on an important document or application form, surely? Or should we all be OK with letting folk continue sabotaging their lives (it could potentially cost you a new job, or career advancement, after all) through ignorance even when we've recognised the error, and can quite easily correct it?
Yes, there are many cases in which the true intent is clear, so the wrong word or two doesn't matter. But in many situations the reader of your written word may not have context or the gift of clairvoyance. And then the wrong word might completely alter the meaning of a sentence or at least make it more difficult to fathom.
But hey? Some people seem to be happy to remain ignorant. After all, the cool kids all type "should of" and we know exactly what they mean...
Come yer now. You've had those yerings in your yers all yer.
(Come here now. You've had those earings in your ears all year).
Same as Welsh people (in the main) know that vijo is actually spelled "v-i-d-e-o".
But the difference is that (most) Welsh people won't write those words all the same, although they don't sound different when they speak them.
If someone is consistently using the incorrect word, where/were, of/have, their/there, etc, then surely they shouldn't be so damned ungrateful and/or plain aggresive when their error is pointed out in the relatively unimportant environs of an internet forum? Better to get over the embarrassment in such a situation before you blindly stumble off to misuse the language you were (generalising, but it's true for the majority of PHers) born to on an important document or application form, surely? Or should we all be OK with letting folk continue sabotaging their lives (it could potentially cost you a new job, or career advancement, after all) through ignorance even when we've recognised the error, and can quite easily correct it?
Yes, there are many cases in which the true intent is clear, so the wrong word or two doesn't matter. But in many situations the reader of your written word may not have context or the gift of clairvoyance. And then the wrong word might completely alter the meaning of a sentence or at least make it more difficult to fathom.
But hey? Some people seem to be happy to remain ignorant. After all, the cool kids all type "should of" and we know exactly what they mean...
Breadvan72 said:
yellowjack said:
I find sloppy use of ...apostrophes's ...quite irritating.
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Not sure if irony detector is broken....
) teeth itch a bit. Brushing might help, but you'll need to floss too, to get rid of the sensation entirely...I also thought I needed a comma after 'suchlike', to be honest. And I left that out deliberately too.
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