Nasty crash in B’Ham

[Muddle238]

I'm sure the police and the investigators will be able to determine exactly which vehicle was the trigger for this event, their detective skills and ability to piece together the forensic evidence is nothing short of masterful. I have upmost respect for them, not only for their raw skills in their work but also for the nature in which their work is presented to them. The emergency crews do a fantastic job, I can't help but feel for them when they respond to a scene such as this, massive respect for them.

[Ari]

Agreed, it's not something I could cope with.

[ruggedscotty]

NorfolkInClue1 said:

ruggedscotty said:

andrewparker said:

Taxi driver was 32-years-old and had six children. It’s his 3-year-old daughters birthday tomorrow.

And ?

No disrespect but........

Edit: An utter with a keyboard, a big brave keyboard.

Edited by NorfolkInClue1 on Sunday 17th December 18:56

Actually it was a mobile and not a keyboard. Anyways calling me a Cu...t for calling out this weird thing that we do for associating some sort of hierarchy about being killed with kids or not that somehow it is worse as the person had kids. No disrespect to the taxi driver implied or intended. It is a terrible incident this and its taken the lives of several people, every one of them precious. read and digest before you jump in with both feet.

[anonymous-user]

Ari said:

NorfolkInClue1 said:

No doubt he’ll be happy to pop along to the funeral and make that point to the widow and children, there loss is no more important than others........nice.

As long as you are happy to pop along to the funeral of the widow of a victim without six kids and make the point that their loss is less important than that of the widow with six children...

It's utter nonsense trying to score card who's loss is the most important. I can only assume that someone who thinks you can rate these things has never suffered a bereavement.

I am not the one who demeaned the loss.
No one even began to mention an “important of loss” as the taxi drivers details appear to be the first, your point is nonsense. Who mentioned rating?
Read what you posted and grow a pair. Show some respect at the very least. Read the responses to your post and think next time before you post.
Again, no one was able to “score card” as only one victims details have emerged.
Another thread dragged down by posters back peddling.
No offence to all that have posted up to here, it was interesting but normal service is resumed in N,P and E. The have arrived.

R.I.P to all and there families.

As for your last sentence, well, many many years ago I spent one Friday night trapped in what was left of my car for 4 hours next to my dead friend, the victims of 2 drivers racing late at night and side by side. It took 2 years to recover from the physical injuries ( fractured skull, eye socket and jaw, displaced wrist and broken arm which meant my entire intact right hand had moved several inches down my arm exposing the broken bone at the end. Hair line fracture of the sternum. Multiple fractures to my pelvis, broken hip, broken thigh, shattered knee and broken ankle, my lung collapsed during extraction and I “died” twice in the ambulance after the firemen had finally cut me out ) so I am more than aware of the consequences of fatal accidents, hence my exception to any comment disrespecting the aftermath of such incidents.

Sadly the damage has only just begun for many.

Edited by anonymous-user on Sunday 17th December 21:15

[Greendubber]

Muddle238 said:

I'm sure the police and the investigators will be able to determine exactly which vehicle was the trigger for this event, their detective skills and ability to piece together the forensic evidence is nothing short of masterful. I have upmost respect for them, not only for their raw skills in their work but also for the nature in which their work is presented to them. The emergency crews do a fantastic job, I can't help but feel for them when they respond to a scene such as this, massive respect for them.

It's a horrific scene

[anonymous-user]

andrewparker said:

FFS, that was not what I was trying to do. Stop being an utter prick.

And FWIW, yes, I understand more than most what it’s like to lose someone in a road accident.

My repost was aimed at rugged bell end, not you, you supplied the info.

[J4CKO]

I really cant see what is causing the argument and backbiting here, all that was added was some background on the Taxi Driver that died, all the victims will have family and nobody claimed him having kids makes him any more important, cant see why its causing so much ire ?

[FiF]

Let's not forget we had a superb thread running on here for a long time, several years btw, which by word of mouth and linking from other sites brought in new members who were moved by reading the thread and led to them reconsidering their own driving standards on public roads. I am, of course, referring to the prison thread which started off covering the incident and aftermath which resulted in 10PenceShort's spell inside.

Thread is now closed due to idiots arguing and taking pops.

[ruggedscotty]

NorfolkInClue1 said:

My repost was aimed at rugged bell end, not you, you supplied the info.

There you go again... what is it with you ? why the anger ? Your post made a statement and its been picked up not just by me but others, take a step back. reign it in.

Your accident ? I went through similar, had a really bad one a few years ago, the injuries required me to to be medivacced back to the UK and I received surgery to remove a life threatening blood clot on my brain. It took me a few years to get over that. When the accident happened I was single and working overseas to save the money required to emigrate to Canada. Single and footloose so to speak.

now married and have a kid, so if I had been killed back then what has happened since wouldnt have happened. I took exception about the comments you made about the taxi driver. i may have picked up what you said up wrong, its just the way it came across.

[Ari]

Honestly, I wouldn't waste your time.

[andymc]

Is this road subject to an order banning “cruising”?

[anonymous-user]

ruggedscotty said:

There you go again... what is it with you ? why the anger ? Your post made a statement and its been picked up not just by me but others, take a step back. reign it in.

Your accident ? I went through similar, had a really bad one a few years ago, the injuries required me to to be medivacced back to the UK and I received surgery to remove a life threatening blood clot on my brain. It took me a few years to get over that. When the accident happened I was single and working overseas to save the money required to emigrate to Canada. Single and footloose so to speak.

now married and have a kid, so if I had been killed back then what has happened since wouldnt have happened. I took exception about the comments you made about the taxi driver. i may have picked up what you said up wrong, its just the way it came across.

My apologies, I guess emotions can return when things like this happen. I too was single and quite frankly didn’t care much at the time, glad to have gotten away with it to a certain extent?The enormity of it only really hit home when I too had kids.
Apologies.

Less and more

[ruggedscotty]

NorfolkInClue1 said:

My apologies, I guess emotions can return when things like this happen. I too was single and quite frankly didn’t care much at the time, glad to have gotten away with it to a certain extent?The enormity of it only really hit home when I too had kids.
Apologies.

Less and more

I owe you a drink bud, you've been through the mill so to speak.

[Dynamic Space Wizard]

Nickbrapp said:

The leon has the front damage to suggest that it’s been hit from the side, looks to be a FR one too, so probs the 170tdi, i think racing, brakes as the S3 goes wide, crashes and send the S3 across the toad

I feel sorry for that poor toad.

[poo at Paul's]

Sa Calobra said:

It needs Armco just as the access off the M6 into central Birmingham needs Armco

It doesn't. It just needs everyone not to drive like s.

[lucido grigio]

anonymous said:

[redacted]

If that's true ,a world of pain for someone.

[mondeoman]

S3 comes round corner, fast, sees previous accident ahead, brakes, spins,, goes across central reservation sideways / backwards into Zafira at high level, taking the windscreen and roof off, gets turned back round the right way and that when the bodies get dumped (impact and spin).
Taxi sees it happen, tries to avoid but hits central reservation with offside rear, rips axle off and gets turned over and slides into Zafira, smearing driver and passengers.

S3 is mostly damaged on near side, rear is badly bent, front offside is, relatively, undamaged. Only thing I can’t see is what the Seat drove into..., unless it’s the blue ford.

[Benjy911]

lucido grigio said:

anonymous said:

[redacted]

If that's true ,a world of pain for someone.

Hard to tell from the pictures but to me it looked more like KR58 OBH, which is a white Leon FR and insured.

[rallycross]

Horrible crash, no point to speculate but all the ingredients are here which add up to a predictable set of circumstances leading to this dreadful scene:

Birmingham
Fast Audi
Car full of people
Late night high speed crash.

[Leptons]

Muddle238 said:

I'm sure the police and the investigators will be able to determine exactly which vehicle was the trigger for this event, their detective skills and ability to piece together the forensic evidence is nothing short of masterful. I have upmost respect for them, not only for their raw skills in their work but also for the nature in which their work is presented to them. The emergency crews do a fantastic job, I can't help but feel for them when they respond to a scene such as this, massive respect for them.

No need, the PH crash detectives have already solved this one.