Nasty crash in B’Ham

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Robertj21a

16,480 posts

106 months

Saturday 16th March 2019
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Sa Calobra said:
Let's roll out the racism again huh?

Car racing and crashing happens daily throughout the UK.
Can you better explain that ? - is it ok for innocents to be killed so that others can race ?

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Sa Calobra

37,208 posts

212 months

Saturday 16th March 2019
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Elements earlier in this topic and posters already posting comments tipping towards racial profiling on the other Birmingham crash topic.

No one seems to post up the numerous car crash deaths (2+) on PH unless there's a racial element.

There seems to be a narrative if it's Birmingham as the location.


Robertj21a

16,480 posts

106 months

Saturday 16th March 2019
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Sa Calobra said:
Elements earlier in this topic and posters already posting comments tipping towards racial profiling on the other Birmingham crash topic.

No one seems to post up the numerous car crash deaths (2+) on PH unless there's a racial element.

There seems to be a narrative if it's Birmingham as the location.
I can't see where posters today are 'tipping towards racial profiling'

Are you over-reacting (or have a particular agenda) ?

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Downward

3,635 posts

104 months

Saturday 16th March 2019
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Sa Calobra said:
Elements earlier in this topic and posters already posting comments tipping towards racial profiling on the other Birmingham crash topic.

No one seems to post up the numerous car crash deaths (2+) on PH unless there's a racial element.

There seems to be a narrative if it's Birmingham as the location.
This weeks crash wasn’t even in Birmingham.

Taaaaang

6,601 posts

187 months

Saturday 16th March 2019
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I live in Birmingham city centre and I don't think it's racist at all to point out that the vast majority of lunatic driving I see is done by young Pakistani men in prestige and often very fast prestige cars.

Frankly, some of it is just ridiculously dangerous.

anonymous-user

55 months

Saturday 16th March 2019
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Taaaaang said:
I live in Birmingham city centre and I don't think it's racist at all to point out that the vast majority of lunatic driving I see is done by young Pakistani men in prestige and often very fast prestige cars.

Frankly, some of it is just ridiculously dangerous.
Ooh you racist for pointing out some facts!

0ddball

865 posts

140 months

Saturday 16th March 2019
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Taaaaang said:
I live in Birmingham city centre and I don't think it's racist at all to point out that the vast majority of lunatic driving I see is done by young Pakistani men in prestige and often very fast prestige cars.

Frankly, some of it is just ridiculously dangerous.
You only live there so what do you know about it? Listen to the experts who live hundreds of miles away.

I wouldn't have the audacity to say what life was like in London as I have no experience of it. From the few times I've been there it was fantastic, I didn't see any crime, wasn't mugged by a scooter gang, the traffic was minimal and the tube ran like clockwork. Easiest city in the country to live in.

I accept that it might not be as rosey as a resident.

over_the_hill

3,189 posts

247 months

Sunday 17th March 2019
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I see the Police are appealing for the driver of the Audi to come forward.

Surely they should know who the owner and insured drivers are ?

Oh yes silly me - no doubt uninsured, untaxed and on cloned plates so they haven't got a clue.


Greendubber

13,231 posts

204 months

Sunday 17th March 2019
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over_the_hill said:
I see the Police are appealing for the driver of the Audi to come forward.

Surely they should know who the owner and insured drivers are ?

Oh yes silly me - no doubt uninsured, untaxed and on cloned plates so they haven't got a clue.
Well the they have someone in custody now which is good.

Countdown

40,006 posts

197 months

Sunday 17th March 2019
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0ddball said:
Taaaaang said:
I live in Birmingham city centre and I don't think it's racist at all to point out that the vast majority of lunatic driving I see is done by young Pakistani men in prestige and often very fast prestige cars.

Frankly, some of it is just ridiculously dangerous.
You only live there so what do you know about it? Listen to the experts who live hundreds of miles away.

I wouldn't have the audacity to say what life was like in London as I have no experience of it. From the few times I've been there it was fantastic, I didn't see any crime, wasn't mugged by a scooter gang, the traffic was minimal and the tube ran like clockwork. Easiest city in the country to live in.

I accept that it might not be as rosey as a resident.
The thing is (and possibly I'm stating the obvious here) in any town or City there will be a certain number of people who drive like knobs. And statistically, if you are in an area where the ethnic background of those people is XYZ , then there is a greater likelihood that the people driving like knobs are from an XYZ background.

I have to drive into Oldham and Blackburn regularly and, as sure as eggs is eggs, i will encounter quite a few people driving like knobheads who are asian. However I also drive into Salford. Longsight, Moss Side, and several other areas where i also encounter knobbish driving but from different ethnicities. Coincidentally those areas are populated mainly by people from other ethnicities. It's not at all racist to suggest that a lot of young asians drive like knobs, and personally I would pay extra CT to fund more ANPR units However it IS stupid to suggest that it's only or mainly young asians that drive like knobs.

Take a look at the "st Driving caught by dashcam" thread - it's not just "pimped up" S3s and C63s driving like knobs.

Hub

6,447 posts

199 months

Sunday 24th March 2019
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Another one

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-4...

Is it a Golf GTD?

Looks like a 30mph road

wjwren

4,484 posts

136 months

Sunday 24th March 2019
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Unknown but big alloys on it.

Digga

40,379 posts

284 months

Sunday 24th March 2019
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Taaaaang said:
I live in Birmingham city centre and I don't think it's racist at all to point out that the vast majority of lunatic driving I see is done by young Pakistani men in prestige and often very fast prestige cars.

Frankly, some of it is just ridiculously dangerous.
One of my mates is a chippy. He grew up in Bloxwich and has worked in and around Brum for decades. He reckons the (already poor and random) driving in the city has got markedly worse in the last few years. He does not think it is just down to one ethnic group, but also has much to do with people emigrating to the UK from places that were either not urbanised and without motorways and dual carriageways, or were otherwise just chaotic. Analogous to putting complete driving novices onto a live race circuit where racers are testing.

Ian Geary

4,506 posts

193 months

Sunday 24th March 2019
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Not related to these crashes, but I would agree with the above.

The marked drop in driving standards, particularly lane discipline, can only be through drivers using the roads without any real instruction or care about the subject.

I doubt that they have all just "forgotten" what was in the HC,which I assume most people read cover to cover whilst learning?

stanwan

1,897 posts

227 months

Sunday 24th March 2019
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Ian Geary said:
Not related to these crashes, but I would agree with the above.

The marked drop in driving standards, particularly lane discipline, can only be through drivers using the roads without any real instruction or care about the subject.

I doubt that they have all just "forgotten" what was in the HC,which I assume most people read cover to cover whilst learning?
I find there is a large cohort of completely oblivious drivers - completely transfixed on the car immediately ahead, they have no idea what is going on around them.

Thy easily identified by the smartphone stuck bang in the middle of the screen on a sucker holder...

kev1974

4,029 posts

130 months

Sunday 24th March 2019
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Hub said:
Another one

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-4...

Is it a Golf GTD?

Looks like a 30mph road
How is it that these stories always seem to involve cars with small children in them late at night.

Is it that the small children are a massive distraction to the driver?

Or just that the fact that small children are involved, is what gets the story in the headlines.

Sa Calobra

37,208 posts

212 months

Sunday 24th March 2019
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No it's selective media reporting.

There are crashes every single day everywhere.

Veiled racism by the Beeb

Previous

1,454 posts

155 months

Sunday 24th March 2019
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Sa Calobra said:
No it's selective media reporting.

There are crashes every single day everywhere.

Veiled racism by the Beeb
To be fair, crashes everywhere aren't really suitable for the "nasty crash in Birmingham" thread.

That tends to cover crashes in Birmingham

eccles

13,744 posts

223 months

Sunday 24th March 2019
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Sa Calobra said:
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Veiled racism by the Beeb
Where on earth do you get that from in the story with the Golf in it above?
There's no mention of racing or speeding, just a crash involving a couple of kids, and a couple of adults, yet somehow, in your head it veiled racism because the Birmingham region of the BBC reports a crash that's in Birmingham.


Edited by eccles on Sunday 24th March 13:15

Sa Calobra

37,208 posts

212 months

Sunday 24th March 2019
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It's on the BBC's website front page. They have a knack of putting Birmingham crashes on there