Nasty crash in B’Ham
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anonymous said:
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Slightly more worryingly, it also implies God had it all set out anyway so it doesnt matter what you do.....it was his plan.I think one comment was along the lines of "odd how Allah planned it this way" - as if the family and friends sit around after this with puzzled faces like you might have if your boss got rid of the coffee machine at work without telling you why.
mac96 said:
Henners said:
I like Nafeesa.
A brave lady, especially as posting in her own name. Perhaps it shows that her views are widespread, just not amongst those who choose to post about this. Let's hope so.Unless you live a very sheltered life I imagine most people on here know at least one person (if not several) who are "dodgy" in some way, like the maguire family in "Shameless"?. Yet how many of us are likely to call them out on it...? We may avoid them or we may limit any interaction to a casual nod but we're not going to let them know that we know exactly what they do and that we think they're scum, because it's not worth a brick through the window or having a vandalised car.
Countdown said:
mac96 said:
Henners said:
I like Nafeesa.
A brave lady, especially as posting in her own name. Perhaps it shows that her views are widespread, just not amongst those who choose to post about this. Let's hope so.Unless you live a very sheltered life I imagine most people on here know at least one person (if not several) who are "dodgy" in some way, like the maguire family in "Shameless"?. Yet how many of us are likely to call them out on it...? We may avoid them or we may limit any interaction to a casual nod but we're not going to let them know that we know exactly what they do and that we think they're scum, because it's not worth a brick through the window or having a vandalised car.
Countdown said:
mac96 said:
Henners said:
I like Nafeesa.
A brave lady, especially as posting in her own name. Perhaps it shows that her views are widespread, just not amongst those who choose to post about this. Let's hope so.Unless you live a very sheltered life I imagine most people on here know at least one person (if not several) who are "dodgy" in some way, like the maguire family in "Shameless"?. Yet how many of us are likely to call them out on it...? We may avoid them or we may limit any interaction to a casual nod but we're not going to let them know that we know exactly what they do and that we think they're scum, because it's not worth a brick through the window or having a vandalised car.
When should that stand happen - that's the issue/problem.
Lots of people turned out for the funeral of the taxi driver.
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-42453972
RIP also to the taxi's passengers who might be forgotten in all this. Though not by their families and friends, obviously.
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-42453972
RIP also to the taxi's passengers who might be forgotten in all this. Though not by their families and friends, obviously.
Smiler. said:
Too true. I've seen what the bottom of the (non) travelling barrel are like on social media & it's not all lucky heather & dags.
Some very scary people out there (NSFW-Swearing) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=so1LosxbQ9oI was offered an S3 few months back, a friend had it on a lease or pcp and was handing it back . The car was worth something like 24k but the finance company said he could have it for 19k or some figure like that. Friend had already ordered a Tesla so offered it me. I thought about it but didnt want it sat on the drive as I knew at some point some inbred would kick the door in for the keys.
Plus any S3 i see on the road seems to be driven by an idiot of some kind. I guess the whole thing with them is they are desgned to be driven quickly so perhaps that brings out the racing driving or so called racing driver in you.
These videos make me want to own one even less.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ethxojNDEs0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-trONsp2P8&t=...
Plus any S3 i see on the road seems to be driven by an idiot of some kind. I guess the whole thing with them is they are desgned to be driven quickly so perhaps that brings out the racing driving or so called racing driver in you.
These videos make me want to own one even less.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ethxojNDEs0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-trONsp2P8&t=...
Back in 2000 Audis used to be driven by unassuming engineer types and were considered the dull less brash alternative to BMW & Merc. Now they (fast audis) seem to be almost universally driven by complete tts who have scant regard for society and insist on communicating in some alternative variant of english based on a dictionary written by a drunk dyslexic.
The only marker point I can remember when the showroom was being frequented by innit bruv types was after the B7 RS4 came out followed by the S3 which seemed to have some sort of gangsta wannabee appeal cred over the Golf Gti.
I still have no idea why the scrotes adopted Audi, other than the quattro system making up for their hamfisted driving.
The brand seems utterly tainted now. You can forgive BMW for attracting people allergic to their indicators, or Volvos for their magnetic attraction to rear bumpers in front of them, but I'm not sure being seen in a car so utterly wedded to modern scrote tttery is something that Audi can dig themselves out of.
The only marker point I can remember when the showroom was being frequented by innit bruv types was after the B7 RS4 came out followed by the S3 which seemed to have some sort of gangsta wannabee appeal cred over the Golf Gti.
I still have no idea why the scrotes adopted Audi, other than the quattro system making up for their hamfisted driving.
The brand seems utterly tainted now. You can forgive BMW for attracting people allergic to their indicators, or Volvos for their magnetic attraction to rear bumpers in front of them, but I'm not sure being seen in a car so utterly wedded to modern scrote tttery is something that Audi can dig themselves out of.
At the risk of sending this off on a tangent, how does Islam rationalise fate ? A literal view as represented by some on that FB feed would suggest that it doesn't matter what you do in life (reckless, legal or otherwise), it'll all be sweetness & light in the afterlife. I can't believe that's a valid life code for the majority of societal Muslims.
(not agitating, just curious as an atheist)
(not agitating, just curious as an atheist)
wc98 said:
Herr Schnell said:
This video from the family of one of those in the Audi along with subsequent comments is illuminating and should be shown more widely to explain the insular mindset and total disdain for those not within that community which is causing so many problems in our wider society, yet which we are not allowed to speak about lest we be labelled racists or "islamophobes":
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=460723...
A lot of grief for the four "brothers" yet not a single mention of Lucy Davis and Lee Jenkins, total denial of the likely causal factors, wilfull ignorance of the criminal actions of at least one and a conflation of criticism with their actions to the wider bogeyman of "islamophobia".
Truly deeply worrying.
is this response/attitude any different to that had they been a bunch of white toerags ? some years ago near me a piece of utter scum crashed and killed a mother and child(similar circumstances, grossly inappropriate speed in a 30 zone). had been on the piss all night and taking drugs. subsequently the family of those killed received threats from his mates after they began a campaign for a severe sentence.https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=460723...
A lot of grief for the four "brothers" yet not a single mention of Lucy Davis and Lee Jenkins, total denial of the likely causal factors, wilfull ignorance of the criminal actions of at least one and a conflation of criticism with their actions to the wider bogeyman of "islamophobia".
Truly deeply worrying.
Edited by Herr Schnell on Friday 22 December 09:59
another clown that was on the losing end of a fight he started stole a car while drunk and deliberately ran over and killed the bloke he lost the fight with. i see the exact same response and attitude in the lower echelons in various demographics , it certainly isn't a muslim only issue, nor would i suggest more prevalent in that community.
Someone put earlier here, it's but one accident.
Frankly I'm surprised it hasn't happened well before.
I've travelled along that stretch of road before Gatso cameras were there, no one then took any notice of the limit, even once the speed cameras were put up (a couple each way) no one took any notice, except perhaps to slow down/speed up past them, although just before the mosque there is very sneaky one, very much hidden by a tree that if you're not local and are driving at the standard speed, you will be done, but I digress.
I'll admit to not knowing which of the cameras are switched on or not, I think the only way to calm down this particular stretch would be to adopt what they did further back on the Edgbaston road (A456) where they put in average speed cameras.
The people causing the accident must have been driving really poorly though, there's no major bends or anything and the visibilities pretty good.
Frankly I'm surprised it hasn't happened well before.
I've travelled along that stretch of road before Gatso cameras were there, no one then took any notice of the limit, even once the speed cameras were put up (a couple each way) no one took any notice, except perhaps to slow down/speed up past them, although just before the mosque there is very sneaky one, very much hidden by a tree that if you're not local and are driving at the standard speed, you will be done, but I digress.
I'll admit to not knowing which of the cameras are switched on or not, I think the only way to calm down this particular stretch would be to adopt what they did further back on the Edgbaston road (A456) where they put in average speed cameras.
The people causing the accident must have been driving really poorly though, there's no major bends or anything and the visibilities pretty good.
Speed 3 said:
At the risk of sending this off on a tangent, how does Islam rationalise fate ? A literal view as represented by some on that FB feed would suggest that it doesn't matter what you do in life (reckless, legal or otherwise), it'll all be sweetness & light in the afterlife. I can't believe that's a valid life code for the majority of societal Muslims.
(not agitating, just curious as an atheist)
You could Google "Islam fate" and get about 9m hits........but........by the end of the first three links you'll be so mind fu*ked that you'll have forgotten your own question.(not agitating, just curious as an atheist)
It's like time has stood still for the last 1000 years for 1.5 billion people.
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