Nasty crash in B’Ham

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andrewparker

8,014 posts

187 months

Sunday 24th December 2017
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otolith said:
Yeah, it’s this page that is listed, where it has been mentioned once, not a dozen times. Tell you all you need to know.

https://support.google.com/webmasters/answer/66358...

Edited by andrewparker on Sunday 24th December 07:53

wjwren

4,484 posts

135 months

Sunday 24th December 2017
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Those golfs normally end upon on the VW approved used scheme.

CaptainSlow

13,179 posts

212 months

Sunday 24th December 2017
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andrewparker said:
Yeah, it’s this page that is listed, where it has been mentioned once, not a dozen times. Tell you all you need to know.



Edited by andrewparker on Sunday 24th December 07:53
Still at number 2 for KT16LLP results.

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

126 months

Sunday 24th December 2017
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andrewparker said:
Yeah, it’s this page that is listed, where it has been mentioned once, not a dozen times. Tell you all you need to know.
Yes, it tells you this is the most recent page of the thread.

andrewparker

8,014 posts

187 months

Sunday 24th December 2017
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TooMany2cvs said:
andrewparker said:
Yeah, it’s this page that is listed, where it has been mentioned once, not a dozen times. Tell you all you need to know.
Yes, it tells you this is the most recent page of the thread.
It’s too early to make a difference, but it will do.

Or, maybe that Webmaster article is a load of BS, and I know nothing about the industry I work in. Perhaps Google really does allow you to manipulate page ranking by repeating the same word again and again, despite there being thousands of articles on the web saying it is bad practice and that ultimately you’ll be penalised for it.

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

126 months

Sunday 24th December 2017
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andrewparker said:
Or, maybe that Webmaster article is a load of BS, and I know nothing about the industry I work in. Perhaps Google really does allow you to manipulate page ranking by repeating the same word again and again, despite there being thousands of articles on the web saying it is bad practice and that ultimately you’ll be penalised for it.
Or perhaps that's not a turkey waiting to go in your oven, but a parrot that outflew its feathers?

otolith

56,146 posts

204 months

Sunday 24th December 2017
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Or maybe Google is smart enough to spot the difference between something being repeatedly mentioned in user content on a massively indexed forum and someone keyword stuffing their online shop?

CaptainSlow

13,179 posts

212 months

Sunday 24th December 2017
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andrewparker said:
It’s too early to make a difference, but it will do.

Or, maybe that Webmaster article is a load of BS, and I know nothing about the industry I work in. Perhaps Google really does allow you to manipulate page ranking by repeating the same word again and again, despite there being thousands of articles on the web saying it is bad practice and that ultimately you’ll be penalised for it.
Well, one must be correct, let's wait and see.

OddCat

2,530 posts

171 months

Sunday 24th December 2017
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anonymous said:
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........which is why we all love PH?

I am assuming you were alluding to this being a good thing (otherwise you must be very odd to only ever have 'one subject' structured conversations and you must be a hoot down the pub !)

andrewparker

8,014 posts

187 months

Sunday 24th December 2017
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anonymous said:
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Indeed. Given the amount of times that number plate appears elsewhere on the web, and the massive number of page views Pistonheads gets, mentioning it just once would have been enough to see it rank at number one in the search results. But if you guys wants to believe that repeating it again and again makes a difference then crack on!

andrewparker

8,014 posts

187 months

Sunday 24th December 2017
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OddCat said:
anonymous said:
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........which is why we all love PH?

I am assuming you were alluding to this being a good thing (otherwise you must be very odd to only ever have 'one subject' structured conversations and you must be a hoot down the pub !)
It’s an education if nothing else!

CaptainSlow

13,179 posts

212 months

Sunday 24th December 2017
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andrewparker said:
anonymous said:
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Indeed. Given the amount of times that number plate appears elsewhere on the web, and the massive number of page views Pistonheads gets, mentioning it just once would have been enough to see it rank at number one in the search results. But if you guys wants to believe that repeating it again and again makes a difference then crack on!
No, you said it would make a difference ie it would fall down the rankings.

Digga

40,324 posts

283 months

Sunday 24th December 2017
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Countdown said:
mac96 said:
Henners said:
I like Nafeesa.
A brave lady, especially as posting in her own name. Perhaps it shows that her views are widespread, just not amongst those who choose to post about this. Let's hope so.
Her views are definitely widespread and most likely shared by people who knew the driver/passengers in the Audi. However the problem with scumbags is that they have scumbag "family/friends" and it's generally not worth the hassle getting into a slanging match with them.

Unless you live a very sheltered life I imagine most people on here know at least one person (if not several) who are "dodgy" in some way, like the maguire family in "Shameless"?. Yet how many of us are likely to call them out on it...? We may avoid them or we may limit any interaction to a casual nod but we're not going to let them know that we know exactly what they do and that we think they're scum, because it's not worth a brick through the window or having a vandalised car.
A brave lady indeed. I hope her profile was made up to disguise her real identity though, as you say, these types are non too tolerant of having their views challenged.

As I pointed out earlier, the fact people posted the photos and that there is clear criticism, from within the local Muslim community demonstrates clearly how unhappy people are at having to live alongside or near these types.

4x4Tyke

6,506 posts

132 months

Sunday 24th December 2017
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andrewparker said:
So it’s probably at a point now where Google won’t show this page because of the amount of times it’s been mentioned. Google ain’t thick.
Anthropomorphising Google doesn't lend credibility to your position.

The number of occurrences of "KT16 LLP" in this thread will be a small percentage of the overall content and fall a long way short of penalties, especially its appearance within multiple contexts.

Dindoit

1,645 posts

94 months

Sunday 24th December 2017
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Odd that one particular crash should attract so much attention here. I wonder what the differentiating factor is to gain so much interest?

4x4Tyke

6,506 posts

132 months

Sunday 24th December 2017
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Dindoit said:
Odd that one particular crash should attract so much attention here. I wonder what the differentiating factor is to gain so much interest?
The Leeds crash thread was a similar length until this replaced it, the truck taking down a bridge was much longer, the stationary Truck minibus crash thread was long as well. There is nothing odd about severe accident taking attention until it is replaced by the next shocking incident.

Gary C

12,446 posts

179 months

Sunday 24th December 2017
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Dindoit said:
Odd that one particular crash should attract so much attention here. I wonder what the differentiating factor is to gain so much interest?
I think it presses all the outrage buttons.

Not that we shouldn't be outraged as the info becomes clearer.

FWIW

3,069 posts

97 months

Sunday 24th December 2017
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wc98 said:
Herr Schnell said:
This video from the family of one of those in the Audi along with subsequent comments is illuminating and should be shown more widely to explain the insular mindset and total disdain for those not within that community which is causing so many problems in our wider society, yet which we are not allowed to speak about lest we be labelled racists or "islamophobes":

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=460723...

A lot of grief for the four "brothers" yet not a single mention of Lucy Davis and Lee Jenkins, total denial of the likely causal factors, wilfull ignorance of the criminal actions of at least one and a conflation of criticism with their actions to the wider bogeyman of "islamophobia".

Truly deeply worrying.



Edited by Herr Schnell on Friday 22 December 09:59
is this response/attitude any different to that had they been a bunch of white toerags ? some years ago near me a piece of utter scum crashed and killed a mother and child(similar circumstances, grossly inappropriate speed in a 30 zone). had been on the piss all night and taking drugs. subsequently the family of those killed received threats from his mates after they began a campaign for a severe sentence.

another clown that was on the losing end of a fight he started stole a car while drunk and deliberately ran over and killed the bloke he lost the fight with. i see the exact same response and attitude in the lower echelons in various demographics , it certainly isn't a muslim only issue, nor would i suggest more prevalent in that community.
Yes, the response/attitude is MASSIVELY different and your example is bizarre, bearing little/no similarity.

Digga

40,324 posts

283 months

Monday 25th December 2017
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4x4Tyke said:
Dindoit said:
Odd that one particular crash should attract so much attention here. I wonder what the differentiating factor is to gain so much interest?
The Leeds crash thread was a similar length until this replaced it, the truck taking down a bridge was much longer, the stationary Truck minibus crash thread was long as well. There is nothing odd about severe accident taking attention until it is replaced by the next shocking incident.
There were some broad similarities with the Leeds crash; a community blighted by the lawlwessness of a few, the background of recidivism, but the most significant differentiating factor in the case of the Birmingham crash was the loss of innocent lives. A taxi driver and two passengers were taken out. A hugely different scenario.

Gary C

12,446 posts

179 months

Monday 25th December 2017
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anonymous said:
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Not hear that since a judge dread comic smile