Nasty crash in B’Ham

[Alpinestars]

Greenmantle said:

Just asking for some facts here:

(1) which way was the car travelling - towards the bend or away from the bend?
(2) what type of Audi was it?

Given that the flowers are all on the cemetery side then it looks like it was heading for the bend.

Thanks

A5 of some sort I think.

[TooMany2cvs]

Greenmantle said:

Just asking for some facts here:

(1) which way was the car travelling - towards the bend or away from the bend?
(2) what type of Audi was it?

Given that the flowers are all on the cemetery side then it looks like it was heading for the bend.

Cooking A5 2dr, passenger side damaged.

[turbomoped]

Interesting that fridays effort seems like the usual flashy asians with fast car with nothing better to do at night than thrash about.
No doubt frequenting this sort of message board a lot.
Explains why there was no thread up for this over the weekend as they were all lying low.
For a glimpse of the future just look at the chaos in India where its approx quarter of a million traffic fatalities a year.
Enough Indians here now to cause real damage.

[amusingduck]

turbomoped said:

Interesting that fridays effort seems like the usual flashy asians with fast car with nothing better to do at night than thrash about.
No doubt frequenting this sort of message board a lot.
Explains why there was no thread up for this over the weekend as they were all lying low.
For a glimpse of the future just look at the chaos in India where its approx quarter of a million traffic fatalities a year.
Enough Indians here now to cause real damage.

Happy to be corrected, but I don't think that any of the people causing these accidents have ever done any driving in India.

[Mothersruin]

amusingduck said:

turbomoped said:

Interesting that fridays effort seems like the usual flashy asians with fast car with nothing better to do at night than thrash about.
No doubt frequenting this sort of message board a lot.
Explains why there was no thread up for this over the weekend as they were all lying low.
For a glimpse of the future just look at the chaos in India where its approx quarter of a million traffic fatalities a year.
Enough Indians here now to cause real damage.

Happy to be corrected, but I don't think that any of the people causing these accidents have ever done any driving in India.

...and if they did, it was on a Turbo Moped...

[aeropilot]

Greenmantle said:

Just asking for some facts here:

(1) which way was the car travelling - towards the bend or away from the bend?

From damage, and the Police markings shown in photos/film, I would say almost certainly, car was travelling from west to east along the road, and mounted the kerb just before the bus stop, at the point the road starts to curve, taking out the people standing at the stop, and then continuing into an impact with the low wall/railings of the cemetery, and then glancing off back into the road ending up facing the oncoming traffic on the other side of the road.

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turbomoped said:

Interesting that fridays effort seems like the usual flashy asians with fast car with nothing better to do at night than thrash about.
No doubt frequenting this sort of message board a lot.
Explains why there was no thread up for this over the weekend as they were all lying low.
For a glimpse of the future just look at the chaos in India where its approx quarter of a million traffic fatalities a year.
Enough Indians here now to cause real damage.

Got any stats for the UK?

[Countdown]

aeropilot said:

It's a miracle that multiple deaths aren't a regular occurrence, given the propensity of arrogant, dhead driving in the area, which is what I was inferring.
Not that anything is allowed to be done about it.

What do you think should be done about it?

The problem is that dheads don't think they drive like dheads, they think they're driving perfectly normally and it's everybody else who's rubbish. They don't understand why they get coffee beans or people flashing headlights at them. They "only speed where it is perfectly safe to do so". It's very hard to convince these kind of people to change their behaviour until they've had a serious accident and sometimes not even then.

RIP to the 3 who died.

[aeropilot]

Countdown said:

The problem is that dheads don't think they drive like dheads, they think they're driving perfectly normally and it's everybody else who's rubbish. They don't understand why they get coffee beans or people flashing headlights at them. They "only speed where it is perfectly safe to do so". It's very hard to convince these kind of people to change their behaviour until they've had a serious accident and sometimes not even then.

But then, part of the problem is they feel they can do what they like, because they know there is nothing, or virtually nothing to stop them.

[andymc]

aeropilot said:

Countdown said:

The problem is that dheads don't think they drive like dheads, they think they're driving perfectly normally and it's everybody else who's rubbish. They don't understand why they get coffee beans or people flashing headlights at them. They "only speed where it is perfectly safe to do so". It's very hard to convince these kind of people to change their behaviour until they've had a serious accident and sometimes not even then.

But then, part of the problem is they feel they can do what they like, because they know there is nothing, or virtually nothing to stop them.

stiffer sentences for dangerous driving, on the plus point they slow down for schools.....

[aeropilot]

andymc said:

aeropilot said:

Countdown said:

The problem is that dheads don't think they drive like dheads, they think they're driving perfectly normally and it's everybody else who's rubbish. They don't understand why they get coffee beans or people flashing headlights at them. They "only speed where it is perfectly safe to do so". It's very hard to convince these kind of people to change their behaviour until they've had a serious accident and sometimes not even then.

But then, part of the problem is they feel they can do what they like, because they know there is nothing, or virtually nothing to stop them.

stiffer sentences for dangerous driving.....

Would certainly be an idea, but the trouble is, often the only time a prosecution happens is after an accident happens, as there bugger-all Traffic Plod around these days, and from all these Cop-Cam programmes on TV, some of the dire examples of dangerous driving seem to get no more than a casual ticking off and off they go again to do the same thing.....rinse and repeat.

[EmilA]

andymc said:

EmilA said:

Asian doesn't automatically mean they were muslim..

British Pakistani 3rd generation is my guess

May I ask what you based this one please? Just a guess?
There does tend to be an underlying race issue that some PH members tend to have where they jump the gun and say it was the “religion of peace” right away.
As the facts are out, we can clearly see this is not a person who associates himself with Islam or claims to be a Muslim.

Said this before, an idiot is an idiot regardless of the colour of their skin, the religious beliefs/views and a whole host of other things.

Can we please stop assuming an Asian person as a Muslim. That’s like me saying every person with light skin complexion, blue eyes and blonde hair is part of the Aryan race. How can the world better itself if we cannot get past tunnel visisoned views.

I digress, a 12 hour shift done some strange things to me.
We should all drive remapped 335’s and dominate our stairs while throwing cans of red bull when we aren’t busy uncovering Nazi bunkers in our back gardens.

[gruffalo]

Saying he is of Pakistani descent does not mean he is a Muslim.

Many religions exist in Pakistan although there is one primary.

[Hayek]

aeropilot said:

andymc said:

aeropilot said:

Countdown said:

The problem is that dheads don't think they drive like dheads, they think they're driving perfectly normally and it's everybody else who's rubbish. They don't understand why they get coffee beans or people flashing headlights at them. They "only speed where it is perfectly safe to do so". It's very hard to convince these kind of people to change their behaviour until they've had a serious accident and sometimes not even then.

But then, part of the problem is they feel they can do what they like, because they know there is nothing, or virtually nothing to stop them.

stiffer sentences for dangerous driving.....

Would certainly be an idea, but the trouble is, often the only time a prosecution happens is after an accident happens, as there bugger-all Traffic Plod around these days, and from all these Cop-Cam programmes on TV, some of the dire examples of dangerous driving seem to get no more than a casual ticking off and off they go again to do the same thing.....rinse and repeat.

Isn't the complaint normally that there's no space in prisons for these people?

[Alpinestars]

gruffalo said:

Saying he is of Pakistani descent does not mean he is a Muslim.

Many religions exist in Pakistan although there is one primary.

Correct. But if you'd bothered reading his next post, or any of his numerous posts, you'd know exactly where he's coming from. He must have been gutted this morning.

andymc said:

the bystanders reported they seemed drunk, they'd both fled the scene and one was caught, obviously Allah's will for them to behave like slimy s

[Digga]

Alpinestars said:

gruffalo said:

Saying he is of Pakistani descent does not mean he is a Muslim.

Many religions exist in Pakistan although there is one primary.

Correct. But if you'd bothered reading his next post, or any of his numerous posts, you'd know exactly where he's coming from. He must have been gutted this morning.

andymc said:

the bystanders reported they seemed drunk, they'd both fled the scene and one was caught, obviously Allah's will for them to behave like slimy s

Playing Derek's Advocaat for a moment, I do know Muslims who drink.

That said, I am uncertain that the ethinic or religious backgrounds are necessarily relevant or as some may assume.

[rscott]

Digga said:

Alpinestars said:

gruffalo said:

Saying he is of Pakistani descent does not mean he is a Muslim.

Many religions exist in Pakistan although there is one primary.

Correct. But if you'd bothered reading his next post, or any of his numerous posts, you'd know exactly where he's coming from. He must have been gutted this morning.

andymc said:

the bystanders reported they seemed drunk, they'd both fled the scene and one was caught, obviously Allah's will for them to behave like slimy s

Playing Derek's Advocaat for a moment, I do know Muslims who drink.

That said, I am uncertain that the ethinic or religious backgrounds are necessarily relevant or as some may assume.

The name given for the accused appears to be one of Indian, not Pakistani origin. Probably a disappointment to several posters on here, given their comments when it first emerged he was Asian.

[Alpinestars]

Digga said:

Alpinestars said:

gruffalo said:

Saying he is of Pakistani descent does not mean he is a Muslim.

Many religions exist in Pakistan although there is one primary.

Correct. But if you'd bothered reading his next post, or any of his numerous posts, you'd know exactly where he's coming from. He must have been gutted this morning.

andymc said:

the bystanders reported they seemed drunk, they'd both fled the scene and one was caught, obviously Allah's will for them to behave like slimy s

Playing Derek's Advocaat for a moment, I do know Muslims who drink.

That said, I am uncertain that the ethinic or religious backgrounds are necessarily relevant or as some may assume.

Clue in the name of the deity.

[aeropilot]

rscott said:

The name given for the accused appears to be one of Indian, not Pakistani origin.

Was always the more likely given the area and circumstances.

[Digga]

anonymous said:

[redacted]

^This.