Nasty crash in B’Ham

[Yipper]

Photo of what appears allegedly to be the entry point and mapped line-of-travel of one car into the opposite carriageway.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5187691/Si...

[anonymous-user]

ruggedscotty said:

andrewparker said:

Taxi driver was 32-years-old and had six children. It’s his 3-year-old daughters birthday tomorrow.

And ?

No disrespect but........

Edit: An utter with a keyboard, a big brave keyboard.

Edited by anonymous-user on Sunday 17th December 18:56

[Leroy902]

Some very harrowing pictures/video clips going around of the incident.
Horrific comes to mind. Bodies just scattered around the carriageway.
If I could load the pictures up and put them up on here I would. It would at least give the opportunity for the youth to see, and realise 'speed kills' isn't just a slogan used for the fun of it.

[Ari]

NorfolkInClue1 said:

ruggedscotty said:

andrewparker said:

Taxi driver was 32-years-old and had six children. It’s his 3-year-old daughters birthday tomorrow.

And ?

No disrespect but........

Edit: An utter with a keyboard, a big brave keyboard.

Edited by NorfolkInClue1 on Sunday 17th December 18:56

I can see his point. Without question of doubt it's absolutely horrific and tragic for his family. Does that lessen the horror or tragedy for the widow of a victim without children for example? How about someone with three children - somewhere in between perhaps?

Six people are dead. None is any less tragic or horrific than any other.

[Nickbrapp]

NorfolkInClue1 said:

I don’t buy that the Seat was racing/involved, if it was then how did it suddenly stop in time to get mildly rear ended by the Zafira?
I will agree there might well be more to it in regards to other vehicles involved but CCTV will sort that out, and if there was then whoever was in a car that left/contributed to this should be hung drawn and quartered.
Interesting to see no one has directly addressed the massive elephant in the room on this subject. Keep your mouths shut, or cards will be pulled. Happy to be proved wrong in the outcome but sadly I expect the obvious, followed by a variety of hashtags.
Audi S3...............a quite literal “weapon of choice”.

The leon has the front damage to suggest that it’s been hit from the side, looks to be a FR one too, so probs the 170tdi, i think racing, brakes as the S3 goes wide, crashes and send the S3 across the toad

[Ari]

Leroy902 said:

Some very harrowing pictures/video clips going around of the incident.
Horrific comes to mind. Bodies just scattered around the carriageway.
If I could load the pictures up and put them up on here I would. It would at least give the opportunity for the youth to see, and realise 'speed kills' isn't just a slogan used for the fun of it.

Speed doesn't kill, inappropriate speed does.

But I do agree that people, perhaps young people in particular, need to be made more aware of the real potential consequences.

I enjoy the Fast & Furious type movies as much as anyone, but it does bother me when you see (completely consequence free) reckless driving promoted as being macho and fun.

Not sure what the answer is really. Maybe the driving test should include showing people the real consequences of car crashes. Not just for the boy racers but for every young girl chatting away on Facebook at the wheel or every mum arguing heatedly with her kids whilst driving.

[anonymous-user]

Ari said:

NorfolkInClue1 said:

ruggedscotty said:

andrewparker said:

Taxi driver was 32-years-old and had six children. It’s his 3-year-old daughters birthday tomorrow.

And ?

No disrespect but........

Edit: An utter with a keyboard, a big brave keyboard.

Edited by anonymous-user on Sunday 17th December 18:56

I can see his point. Without question of doubt it's absolutely horrific and tragic for his family. Does that lessen the horror or tragedy for the widow of a victim without children for example? How about someone with three children - somewhere in between perhaps?

Six people are dead. None is any less tragic or horrific than any other.

No doubt he’ll be happy to pop along to the funeral and make that point to the widow and children, there loss is no more important than others........nice.

[andrewparker]

andrewparker said:

Taxi driver was 32-years-old and had six children. It’s his 3-year-old daughters birthday tomorrow.

FWIW I wasn’t trying to make a point here, simply underlining what a st situation this whole mess is. No need for the aggro.

[anonymous-user]

Are people really trying to score points on this thread?

Get a life people!

[Ari]

NorfolkInClue1 said:

No doubt he’ll be happy to pop along to the funeral and make that point to the widow and children, there loss is no more important than others........nice.

As long as you are happy to pop along to the funeral of the widow of a victim without six kids and make the point that their loss is less important than that of the widow with six children...

It's utter nonsense trying to score card who's loss is the most important. I can only assume that someone who thinks you can rate these things has never suffered a bereavement.

[Greendubber]

Sa Calobra said:

It needs Armco just as the access off the M6 into central Birmingham needs Armco

I have a sneaky suspicion what we actually need is people not driving like s .

[andymc]

so was the taxi not racing?

[andrewparker]

Ari said:

NorfolkInClue1 said:

No doubt he’ll be happy to pop along to the funeral and make that point to the widow and children, there loss is no more important than others........nice.

As long as you are happy to pop along to the funeral of the widow of a victim without six kids and make the point that their loss is less important than that of the widow with six children...

It's utter nonsense trying to score card who's loss is the most important. I can only assume that someone who thinks you can rate these things has never suffered a bereavement.

FFS, that was not what I was trying to do. Stop being an utter prick.

And FWIW, yes, I understand more than most what it’s like to lose someone in a road accident.

[markcoznottz]

av185 said:

nyxster said:

Well it doesn't take a genius to work out 4up in a Audi S3 on a dual carriageway were likely the cause. Here's an example but a simple search for birmingham street racing brings up plenty of examples.

https://youtu.be/tH7kwdHdKLo

Usual 'innit pricks' trying to drive well beyond their capabilities....fine until the usual inevitable catastrophe happens and an innocent party is taken out. Regular occurrence and increasingly common evening sight(or sound....I am listening to usual local knobber in my area atm) in any UK city/town with inadequate plod and Traf Pol cutbacks.

Illegal chavplate nicely sums up the 'fk the law' attitude of these wastes of skin.

Regular sight (and sound) most nights in big cities, suspended sentences and points/bans don't stop these individuals who have an 'anti' attitude and regally don't care, eventually something like this was bound to happen.

[mahoone]

There are few videos on YouTube showing scene of accident before arrival of emergency services.

[ruggedscotty]

Ari said:

I can see his point. Without question of doubt it's absolutely horrific and tragic for his family. Does that lessen the horror or tragedy for the widow of a victim without children for example? How about someone with three children - somewhere in between perhaps?

Six people are dead. None is any less tragic or horrific than any other.

Exactly my point. Far from point scoring, To give back history of one is disrespectful of those that have died. we know nothing yet and every life is precious one way or another. Any death is terrible.

Edited by ruggedscotty on Sunday 17th December 19:32

[Ari]

andrewparker said:

FFS, that was not what I was trying to do. Stop being an utter prick.

And FWIW, yes, I understand more than most what it’s like to lose someone in a road accident.

My comment wasn't aimed at you, it was aimed at the chap getting all sweary and bent out of shape at RuggedScotty and who seemed to feel there should be some sort of bereavement grief rating system.

[andrewparker]

Ari said:

andrewparker said:

FFS, that was not what I was trying to do. Stop being an utter prick.

And FWIW, yes, I understand more than most what it’s like to lose someone in a road accident.

My comment wasn't aimed at you, it was aimed at the chap getting all sweary and bent out of shape at RuggedScotty who seemed to feel there should be some sort of bereavement grief rating system.

Apologies.

My original post was reporting the first reported victim, nothing more.

[zarjaz1991]

ruggedscotty said:

And ?

No disrespect but a life is a life kids or not. Lets not forget all that have died here didnt expect to die.we know nothing yet so lets wait till the news is broken.

Spot on. It's the same school of thought that leads to 'child on board' stickers.

I grow increasingly tired of the the agenda behind this that effectively involves telling my life doesn't matter and is expendable because I don't have children.

[Ari]

andrewparker said:

Apologies.

My original post was reporting the first reported victim, nothing more.

Understood, no problem.