First retail ‘name’ to pop off 2018

First retail ‘name’ to pop off 2018

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soxboy

6,288 posts

220 months

Thursday 12th July 2018
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The High Street isn't dead, it's just going through a period of great change. The problem it faces is that by its own vary nature (bricks and mortar) it is inelastic and at the moment it doesn't sit alongside the demand from retailers - there is too much supply of large shops compared to demand, leading to a period when the bigger units are empty and look awful.

I work in commercial property and find that there is still decent demand from smaller national retailers for smaller units to get a presence in towns, examples include Whistles, Oliver Bonas, White Company, Jo Jo Maman Bebe etc. If a High Street had 20 units of 1000 sq ft it would look a lot healthier than 4 units of 5,000 sq ft.

I'm sure if it were possible the larger retailers would take a reduction in floorspace straight away, however in most cases they can't split the units due to the configuration and therefore the only way to reduce rents is to ask landlords for a rent reduction.

talksthetorque

10,815 posts

136 months

Thursday 12th July 2018
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Outfit have tried to address this by putting several of their concessions in one large retail unit roughly the size of a sofa chain store
Burton, Topman, Dorothy Perkins, Evans, Miss Selfridge, Topshop and Wallis in the one near me.
Trouble is it feels a bit like an out of town Debenhams and that's nothing to aspire to at the moment........

technodup

7,584 posts

131 months

Thursday 12th July 2018
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talksthetorque said:
It won't be long before most Industrial town centres are a continuous line of Greggs and Bookies.
The bds have just closed the Greggs round the corner from me.

No real surprise tbh, was tiny, not on a main street and a bit out of place amongst the ladies who lunch type cafes/restaurants and beauty places. Now I've nowhere to buy a pie.

Jos Notstoppen

496 posts

142 months

Thursday 12th July 2018
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Many years ago our small high street had butchers, bakers, grocers a small supermarket, chemists, bookshops, postoffice and a few specialist shops incl a ship chandler. Over the years these all died off, apart from 1 bookshop. The chemist was taken over by Boots.

A few years ago almost all the shops were chains, no butchers, grocers etc. Now a few of these are closing. Interesting a greengrocer has recently opened and seems always busy, a butcher and a bakers is about to open, maybe things are going in a full circle?

Despite all the gloom here, our high street is often busy so any so called death may not be that close.

gothatway

5,783 posts

171 months

Thursday 12th July 2018
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Jos Notstoppen said:
Despite all the gloom here, our high street is often busy so any so called death may not be that close.
What's the local parking like ?

Jos Notstoppen

496 posts

142 months

Thursday 12th July 2018
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gothatway said:
What's the local parking like ?
80p 1 hr £1.20 2hr
several small car parks. quite a small town so easy to walk as well.

gothatway

5,783 posts

171 months

Thursday 12th July 2018
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Jos Notstoppen said:
gothatway said:
What's the local parking like ?
80p 1 hr £1.20 2hr
several small car parks. quite a small town so easy to walk as well.
I think that's key. Better than driving miles to the nearest mall unless you love the big shops. I also think that price isn't everything to everyone - time and convenience also rank highly.

Greg_D

6,542 posts

247 months

Thursday 12th July 2018
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kingston12 said:
all I am seeing at the moment is vacant premises, charity and vape shops.
Don’t forget expensive coffee...

cuprabob

14,677 posts

215 months

Thursday 12th July 2018
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Greg_D said:
kingston12 said:
all I am seeing at the moment is vacant premises, charity and vape shops.
Don’t forget expensive coffee...
...and betting shops

anonymous-user

55 months

Friday 13th July 2018
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won't that change though with the betting machine restrictions

Tyre Smoke

23,018 posts

262 months

Friday 13th July 2018
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One High Street that is bucking the trend is Honiton in Devon.

All the main banks are still there, there are lots of independent shops and big names, it's always busy.

Yet 10 miles away in Cullompton all the banks are gone, there are a plethora of bookies and charity shops and Chinese takeaways. It just looks sad.

Still has A.R.P. First Aid Point sign on the Town Hall though (just to the left of the central drainpipe)



Sa Calobra

37,172 posts

212 months

Saturday 14th July 2018
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I loved the blood suckers in the betting industry who threatened job loses if the government try to add minimum gambling bets.

People come on the tv straight faced. No shame at all..

matchmaker

8,497 posts

201 months

Saturday 14th July 2018
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We are losing our Argos. Moving from dead centre of the city (Stirling) to Sainsburys.

Robertj21a

16,478 posts

106 months

Saturday 14th July 2018
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matchmaker said:
We are losing our Argos. Moving from dead centre of the city (Stirling) to Sainsburys.
Aren't many (most ?) Argos stores moving in to a Sainsburys store ?

Greg_D

6,542 posts

247 months

Saturday 14th July 2018
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Robertj21a said:
matchmaker said:
We are losing our Argos. Moving from dead centre of the city (Stirling) to Sainsburys.
Aren't many (most ?) Argos stores moving in to a Sainsburys store ?
It works well, IMO, obviously saves a ton of cash as well!!!

soxboy

6,288 posts

220 months

Saturday 14th July 2018
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Robertj21a said:
matchmaker said:
We are losing our Argos. Moving from dead centre of the city (Stirling) to Sainsburys.
Aren't many (most ?) Argos stores moving in to a Sainsburys store ?
Yes, happened to my local (Otley). Works well as now free parking right outside, it’s only moved about 500 metres so no further distant.

2 sMoKiN bArReLs

30,261 posts

236 months

Saturday 14th July 2018
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soxboy said:
Robertj21a said:
matchmaker said:
We are losing our Argos. Moving from dead centre of the city (Stirling) to Sainsburys.
Aren't many (most ?) Argos stores moving in to a Sainsburys store ?
Yes, happened to my local (Otley). Works well as now free parking right outside, it’s only moved about 500 metres so no further distant.
And Nottingham & Mansfield

clockworks

5,375 posts

146 months

Saturday 14th July 2018
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Argos in Penzance has moved into Sainsbury's too. It was the only reason I ever went into town to shop, rather than to work or pick someone up from the station. Much more convenient, with free parking.

The money that Sainsbury's save on Argos premises means there's cash in the kitty to buy Asda.

jas xjr

11,309 posts

240 months

Saturday 14th July 2018
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As long as argos do not replicate their homebase model , where you could order on.an.in.store terminal but.rarely had.any.stock.

RATATTAK

11,134 posts

190 months

Saturday 14th July 2018
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jas xjr said:
As long as argos do not replicate their homebase model , where you could order on.an.in.store terminal but.rarely had.any.stock.
What's the significance of the full stops ?