The U.S.A. Mass Shootings Thread
Discussion
hstewie said:
Zirconia said:
^^^^^^
Religion and politics should never work together.
Meanwhile, back in the real world.
Meanwhile back in the real world they are praying to calm a hurricane down. There’s wiser eating grass. Religion and politics should never work together.
Meanwhile, back in the real world.
https://friendlyatheist.patheos.com/2019/08/31/the...
red_slr said:
I really do need to just give up on this thread. You cant just make things up as you go along.
Rifles are not used most frequently in mass shootings. Hand guns are.
In 114 Mass shootings analysed over 37 years the following number of firearms were used
Handguns = 141
Rifles = 53
Shotguns = 30
Figures from this article? https://www.kunc.org/post/1982-74-percent-mass-sho...Rifles are not used most frequently in mass shootings. Hand guns are.
In 114 Mass shootings analysed over 37 years the following number of firearms were used
Handguns = 141
Rifles = 53
Shotguns = 30
The one which confirms 74% obtained guns legally - that's pretty damning condemnation of the checks currently in place.
Zirconia said:
One avoided perhaps.
https://www.oregonlive.com/news/2019/08/an-ex-mari...
Bi-polar, PTSD, strong political views, and guns.https://www.oregonlive.com/news/2019/08/an-ex-mari...
And now he's pissed because they took his guns away and had him committed for 3 weeks.
What could possibly go wrong there.
Texas shooter had previously failed a background check
https://m.chron.com/news/article/Odessa-spokeswoma...
On Sunday afternoon, federal agents executed a search warrant at what appeared to be Mr. Ator’s residence, in a remote area of mobile homes at the western edge of Ector County, which includes Odessa. A neighbor, Rocio Martinez, 29, described Mr. Ator as a “loner” who kept to himself and who sometimes frightened her because he was always firing guns outside.
“Although I feel bad about the situation, I feel at ease knowing that he was killed,” Ms. Martinez said. “That tells me the threat has been removed, and my family is safe again.”
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/01/us/death-toll-t...
https://m.chron.com/news/article/Odessa-spokeswoma...
On Sunday afternoon, federal agents executed a search warrant at what appeared to be Mr. Ator’s residence, in a remote area of mobile homes at the western edge of Ector County, which includes Odessa. A neighbor, Rocio Martinez, 29, described Mr. Ator as a “loner” who kept to himself and who sometimes frightened her because he was always firing guns outside.
“Although I feel bad about the situation, I feel at ease knowing that he was killed,” Ms. Martinez said. “That tells me the threat has been removed, and my family is safe again.”
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/01/us/death-toll-t...
I know it's been said before, but I can't believe the amount of criticism the US gun laws get from staunch Tory PH'ers who, if they'd have grown up in the US culture, I am absolutely convinced would pretty much all be GOP advocates of the 2nd Amendment. You're all against minimal government interference, too.
ferrisbueller said:
The 2nd amendment is about 100 years out of date.
The UK, and Australia etc, reacted to events such as Dunblane whereas the US chooses not to.
Yes, because since Dunblane gun crime has been completely eradicated from our shores. Our inner city areas have never been safer now that handguns are illegal.The UK, and Australia etc, reacted to events such as Dunblane whereas the US chooses not to.
LimaDelta said:
ferrisbueller said:
The 2nd amendment is about 100 years out of date.
The UK, and Australia etc, reacted to events such as Dunblane whereas the US chooses not to.
Yes, because since Dunblane gun crime has been completely eradicated from our shores. Our inner city areas have never been safer now that handguns are illegal.The UK, and Australia etc, reacted to events such as Dunblane whereas the US chooses not to.
Ted Cruz cites the bible
2/x The right to self-defense is recognized repeatedly in the Bible, eg Exodus 22:2: “If a thief is caught breaking in at night & is struck a fatal blow, the defender is not guilty of bloodshed.” (Note, though, verse 3 says it IS murder if during daylight (ie, not self-defense).
https://twitter.com/tedcruz/status/116831746885672...
Can anyone knowing fuller american history explain Cruz here:
8/x That’s also why, post Civil War, disarming Black Americans was a critical objective of the KKK, and was memorialized in countless Jim Crow laws—to strip African-Americans of their God-given right to self-defense from violence.
2/x The right to self-defense is recognized repeatedly in the Bible, eg Exodus 22:2: “If a thief is caught breaking in at night & is struck a fatal blow, the defender is not guilty of bloodshed.” (Note, though, verse 3 says it IS murder if during daylight (ie, not self-defense).
https://twitter.com/tedcruz/status/116831746885672...
Can anyone knowing fuller american history explain Cruz here:
8/x That’s also why, post Civil War, disarming Black Americans was a critical objective of the KKK, and was memorialized in countless Jim Crow laws—to strip African-Americans of their God-given right to self-defense from violence.
djc206 said:
LimaDelta said:
Yes, because since Dunblane gun crime has been completely eradicated from our shores. Our inner city areas have never been safer now that handguns are illegal.
How much more dangerous would they be if they weren’t?LimaDelta said:
djc206 said:
LimaDelta said:
Yes, because since Dunblane gun crime has been completely eradicated from our shores. Our inner city areas have never been safer now that handguns are illegal.
How much more dangerous would they be if they weren’t?LimaDelta said:
djc206 said:
LimaDelta said:
Yes, because since Dunblane gun crime has been completely eradicated from our shores. Our inner city areas have never been safer now that handguns are illegal.
How much more dangerous would they be if they weren’t?All those good guys with guns don't seem to be helping much.
ferrisbueller said:
LimaDelta said:
djc206 said:
LimaDelta said:
Yes, because since Dunblane gun crime has been completely eradicated from our shores. Our inner city areas have never been safer now that handguns are illegal.
How much more dangerous would they be if they weren’t?https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/dunblane-school-...
Only one I can think of is Derrick Bird, killed 12 injured 11 in Cumbria in 2010.
.22 rifle and a shotgun.
Byker28i said:
ferrisbueller said:
LimaDelta said:
djc206 said:
LimaDelta said:
Yes, because since Dunblane gun crime has been completely eradicated from our shores. Our inner city areas have never been safer now that handguns are illegal.
How much more dangerous would they be if they weren’t?https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/dunblane-school-...
Only one I can think of is Derrick Bird, killed 12 injured 11 in Cumbria in 2010.
.22 rifle and a shotgun.
How about Australia since Port Arthur?
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