The U.S.A. Mass Shootings Thread
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But what, realistically can be done? Years ago if was reckonned there was more guns then people in the US. Now, I fear its far too gone.
Any new restrictions might encourage a last minute rush, and the firearms will go underground. You may be able to say the law, but it will take years to pass such a law, then how do you go about removing them? And what to do with them?
Oh, and tax the ammunition like cigarettes.
Any new restrictions might encourage a last minute rush, and the firearms will go underground. You may be able to say the law, but it will take years to pass such a law, then how do you go about removing them? And what to do with them?
Oh, and tax the ammunition like cigarettes.
williamp said:
But what, realistically can be done? Years ago if was reckonned there was more guns then people in the US. Now, I fear its far too gone.
Any new restrictions might encourage a last minute rush, and the firearms will go underground. You may be able to say the law, but it will take years to pass such a law, then how do you go about removing them? And what to do with them?
Oh, and tax the ammunition like cigarettes.
A start would be to refrain from making it easier to obtain firearms as the governor of Texas has been doing.Any new restrictions might encourage a last minute rush, and the firearms will go underground. You may be able to say the law, but it will take years to pass such a law, then how do you go about removing them? And what to do with them?
Oh, and tax the ammunition like cigarettes.
sparkythecat said:
MC Bodge said:
Boozy said:
There’s laws here from the right pushing to make it harder to have an abortion but make it easier to own a gun.
As an onlooker, the logical contortions look difficult. 
One friend laughed. The one friend I know who owns a rifle in the UK.
Tankrizzo said:
The thing that boggles my mind is that the law allowed an 18 year old boy - just a kid really - to buy a weapon like that and ammo. We all know 18 year old lads, I wouldn't trust them with driving a car properly let alone handling a weapon like that.
You know you can get a driving licence at 16 in some of the States, a provisional from 14, or a full licence at 15 in Montana...Lets not forget that you have to be 21 before you can drink...3 years after Texas lets you buy an AR15 and drive it around on a full unrestricted licence...or restricted from 16.
Mississippi you can get married at 15 without parental consent, or with consent at age 12 in Massachusetts or 13 in New Hampshire.
Most other states are now 16 with consent, 18 without parental consent...
paulguitar said:
williamp said:
But what, realistically can be done? Years ago if was reckonned there was more guns then people in the US. Now, I fear its far too gone.
Any new restrictions might encourage a last minute rush, and the firearms will go underground. You may be able to say the law, but it will take years to pass such a law, then how do you go about removing them? And what to do with them?
Oh, and tax the ammunition like cigarettes.
A start would be to refrain from making it easier to obtain firearms as the governor of Texas has been doing.Any new restrictions might encourage a last minute rush, and the firearms will go underground. You may be able to say the law, but it will take years to pass such a law, then how do you go about removing them? And what to do with them?
Oh, and tax the ammunition like cigarettes.
There's plnty can be done, and against strong opposition such as in Australia, but it's a proven way that stops killings.
What exactly are the 2nd Amendment gun nuts protecting themselves from? The British went home over 200 years ago.
There is no existential threat. It is all in their tiny minds.
Compare Finland (paging Sisu), which has 1.6m gums in circulation and has bloodily faced down a threat in living memory and had it sitting on its doorstep ever since.
That and a hunting based society are when you need guns.
Of course, Finland has had shootings, but on the whole seems grown up and intelligent about it.
Your average gravy seal would soil his cammo at the thought of facing down Molotov.
There is no existential threat. It is all in their tiny minds.
Compare Finland (paging Sisu), which has 1.6m gums in circulation and has bloodily faced down a threat in living memory and had it sitting on its doorstep ever since.
That and a hunting based society are when you need guns.
Of course, Finland has had shootings, but on the whole seems grown up and intelligent about it.
Your average gravy seal would soil his cammo at the thought of facing down Molotov.
Castrol for a knave said:
What exactly are the 2nd Amendment gun nuts protecting themselves from? The British went home over 200 years ago.
There is no existential threat. It is all in their tiny minds.
I have heard that they are going to protect themselves from the tyranny of the US government and US military -Hmmm.There is no existential threat. It is all in their tiny minds.
Thankfully those nutjobs who stormed the Capitol didn't bring along their AR15s.
It's just a trope. They have guns and cannot imagine life without their freedom to have them, carry them on their person and be shot whilst doing daily tasks that people in almost all of the developed world would not be shot whilst doing.
It is not our country, of course.
Edited by MC Bodge on Thursday 26th May 14:17
MC Bodge said:
I have heard that they are going to protect themselves from the tyranny of the US government and US military -Hmmm.
Thankfully those nutjobs who stormed the Capitol didn't bring along their AR15s.
It's just a trope. They have guns and cannot imagine life without their freedom to have them, carry them on their person and be shot whilst doing daily tasks that people in almost all of the developed world would not be shot whilst doing.
It is not our country, of course.
When it's adults dying, I can sort-of say "meh, it's just Americans killing each other, big deal", but the regular, repeated slaughtering of children is another thing altogether.Thankfully those nutjobs who stormed the Capitol didn't bring along their AR15s.
It's just a trope. They have guns and cannot imagine life without their freedom to have them, carry them on their person and be shot whilst doing daily tasks that people in almost all of the developed world would not be shot whilst doing.
It is not our country, of course.
Edited by MC Bodge on Thursday 26th May 14:17
Edited by AW111 on Thursday 26th May 14:31
It is embarrassing quite honestly, and it is good to see a few people really losing the plot over this, a guy in their political practically had a melt down and the best one I saw was a basketball coach, literally shaking with frustration, emotion and anger abandoning a press conference to talk about this, a very powerful speech, he was so visibly moved it made a massive impression on me.
It is entrenched in their needlessly, overly powerful constitution, and to go against that is literally like removing the ability to speak freely in their eyes. They cannot see past that basic thing.
They are so obsessed with it, they cannot see how the rest of the world see them and it is a shame as there are vast numbers of Americans who couldn't care less about guns, never want one, need one, but there are also very large numbers who do and will NEVER give up this right.
I would go so far as to say if any leading politician did try and remove this right and change the constitution for the protection of innocents, there would be civil war in some parts of America.
It is entrenched in their needlessly, overly powerful constitution, and to go against that is literally like removing the ability to speak freely in their eyes. They cannot see past that basic thing.
They are so obsessed with it, they cannot see how the rest of the world see them and it is a shame as there are vast numbers of Americans who couldn't care less about guns, never want one, need one, but there are also very large numbers who do and will NEVER give up this right.
I would go so far as to say if any leading politician did try and remove this right and change the constitution for the protection of innocents, there would be civil war in some parts of America.
Not sure about civil war but certainly a number of states (Texas would be the first.) will want to leave the Union if punitive gun legislation is introduced. Civil war would start if Washington then refused to let them leave.
Gun sales will be soaring in America today. Either from people trying to get in quick before more legislation is possibly introduced or people wanting to protect themselves from similar events.
Nuts.
Gun sales will be soaring in America today. Either from people trying to get in quick before more legislation is possibly introduced or people wanting to protect themselves from similar events.
Nuts.
LukeBrown66 said:
the best one I saw was a basketball coach, literally shaking with frustration, emotion and anger abandoning a press conference to talk about this, a very powerful speech, he was so visibly moved it made a massive impression on me.
Steve Kerr no doubt has his own experience to draw on, he grew up in Beirut, where his father was shot and killed by Islamic extremists. The Hypno-Toad said:
Not sure about civil war but certainly a number of states (Texas would be the first.) will want to leave the Union if punitive gun legislation is introduced. Civil war would start if Washington then refused to let them leave.
Gun sales will be soaring in America today. Either from people trying to get in quick before more legislation is possibly introduced or people wanting to protect themselves from similar events.
Nuts.
Let them leave, and form their own fundamental religious backwater. Y'All Quaida, as it were.Gun sales will be soaring in America today. Either from people trying to get in quick before more legislation is possibly introduced or people wanting to protect themselves from similar events.
Nuts.
One thing to remember is that the redneck states are massively subsidised by the coastal states like California & NY. The religious republic would be a poor country.
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