The U.S.A. Mass Shootings Thread

[Byker28i]

Someone piojnted out it was the six-year anniversary of the Parkland shooting.

[5 In a Row]

Byker28i said:

They had over 800 officers there! Isn't that enough 'good guys'

I was chatting about the US to a couple of friends who have recently moved to the UK from South Africa.

When the subject of 'good guys with guns' came up they just laughed at the Yanks because all the good guys with guns in the US wait for the SWAT team to arrive.
Their view was that in a similar situation in SA the good guys with guns would actually use them against e.g. a school shooter.

[Blib]

swanny71 said:

- Thoughts and prayers for the dead/injured.

That's my go to.

[Kowalski655]

Byker28i said:

They had over 800 officers there! Isn't that enough 'good guys'

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[Hill92]

Byker28i said:

They had over 800 officers there! Isn't that enough 'good guys'

[Byker28i]

Two police officers and a first responder were shot and killed early Sunday in Minnesota after answering a call about a domestic dispute in a house with multiple children inside,
https://nordot.app/1132121756551725751?c=592622757...

[Byker28i]

Florida raised the age to purchase an AR-15 from 18 to 21 after the Parkland massacre. Now it’s going back to 18.
https://floridaphoenix.com/briefs/fl-house-oks-red...

[lornemalvo]

This is one of the few threads you know can be kept going indefinitely, because too many Americans are too thick to want things to change

[Byker28i]

The father of school shooter Ethan Crumbley has been found guilty of four counts of involuntary manslaughter, a month after his wife was found guilty of the same charges. Sentencing in dues on 9 April for both, they face upto 15 years in jail.

They gave access to a handgun to their son, a SIG Sauer 9mm, who used it to kill four students and wound six students and a teacher at Oxford High School on 30 November 2021.

Prosecutors had claimed James Crumbley was “grossly negligent” because he bought the SIG Sauer 9mm gun for his son days before the attack, failed to properly secure it, ignored his son’s deteriorating mental health and did not take “reasonable care” to prevent foreseeable danger.
https://edition.cnn.com/2024/03/14/us/james-crumbl...

[Gary C]

lornemalvo said:

This is one of the few threads you know can be kept going indefinitely, because too many Americans are too thick to want things to change

Oh no, Americans want things to change

They just think that more guns for more people is the answer.

[vaud]

Gary C said:

lornemalvo said:

This is one of the few threads you know can be kept going indefinitely, because too many Americans are too thick to want things to change

Oh no, Americans want things to change

They just think that more guns for more people is the answer.

You can't generalise. It's a highly divisive topic but public opinion (okay one survey) is towards more strict controls:

https://news.gallup.com/poll/513623/majority-conti...

[captain_cynic]

vaud said:

Gary C said:

lornemalvo said:

This is one of the few threads you know can be kept going indefinitely, because too many Americans are too thick to want things to change

Oh no, Americans want things to change

They just think that more guns for more people is the answer.

You can't generalise. It's a highly divisive topic but public opinion (okay one survey) is towards more strict controls:

https://news.gallup.com/poll/513623/majority-conti...

Yep, I think the majority of Americans want change or at least realise that they can't continue the way they are but organisations like the NRA have an enormous amount of political power, so much that a minority get to dictate terms.

[Gary C]

vaud said:

Gary C said:

lornemalvo said:

This is one of the few threads you know can be kept going indefinitely, because too many Americans are too thick to want things to change

Oh no, Americans want things to change

They just think that more guns for more people is the answer.

You can't generalise. It's a highly divisive topic but public opinion (okay one survey) is towards more strict controls:

https://news.gallup.com/poll/513623/majority-conti...

Fair enough

Ok, the ones that make the decisions want more guns.

[Kowalski655]

Gary C said:

Fair enough

Ok, the ones that make the decisions want more guns money from the NRA.

FTFY. Generally the people they are meant to work for want fewer guns but they don't have the money.
Also not helped by having different laws in different states, and a fanatical devotion to some 200 year old writing that never envisaged over-the-counter machine guns! (Yes, I know they aren't really machine guns, who cares? Definitely not the bullet riddled bodies of kids!)

[Byker28i]

Heard a comedian the other day after the SOTU address joking about Marges outbursts about Laken Riley (even though she got the name wrong - deliberately?)
basically saying Marge seemed to be complaining that an undocumented immigrant was responsible, "Damn undocumented immigrants, coming here shooting an american, when thats an americans job to shoot an american."

Also
"How do you get an american to shoot another american - well it all starts in school..."

[hidetheelephants]

Kowalski655 said:

Gary C said:

Fair enough

Ok, the ones that make the decisions want more guns money from the NRA.

FTFY. Generally the people they are meant to work for want fewer guns but they don't have the money.
Also not helped by having different laws in different states, and a fanatical devotion to some 200 year old writing that never envisaged over-the-counter machine guns! (Yes, I know they aren't really machine guns, who cares? Definitely not the bullet riddled bodies of kids!)

Maybe this paradigm will change if the AG of New York wins her supervision order over the NRA and appoints a monitor.

[McGee_22]

If Americans didn't want a change after Sandy Hook then nothing will make them change their minds.

[Byker28i]

Even now there's a GOP candidate claiming that was a false flag operation, it never happened.

[hidetheelephants]

McGee_22 said:

If Americans didn't want a change after Sandy Hook then nothing will make them change their minds.

Polling suggests a sizeable majority want more gun control, the courts don't help and neither do state govts refusing to enforce gun law.

[Byker28i]

hidetheelephants said:

McGee_22 said:

If Americans didn't want a change after Sandy Hook then nothing will make them change their minds.

Polling suggests a sizeable majority want more gun control, the courts don't help and neither do state govts refusing to enforce gun law.

Anecdotal evidence
Son had an assignment to create a new Constitutional amendment. The teachers were expecting a lot of silly responses. Instead, almost universally, kids submitted gun control
https://twitter.com/briskide/status/17690276879793...