The U.S.A. Mass Shootings Thread
Discussion
school shootings are a terrible thing and unacceptable. Statistically, there's more chance of being hit by lightning. Americans don't like having their rights taken away because they understand that only they're responsible for their own family and property, and that all the police can do is come after the fact and take a report.
alabbasi said:
school shootings are a terrible thing and unacceptable. Statistically, there's more chance of being hit by lightning. Americans don't like having their rights taken away because they understand that only they're responsible for their own family and property, and that all the police can do is come after the fact and take a report.
Obviously that’s nonsense, but it’s what the gun lobby and impressionable simpletons buy into as it plays on their inner John Rambo wet dream fantasies.It’s all very sad given the real world consequences of it all.
alabbasi said:
school shootings are a terrible thing and unacceptable. Statistically, there's more chance of being hit by lightning. Americans don't like having their rights taken away because they understand that only they're responsible for their own family and property, and that all the police can do is come after the fact and take a report.
Statista.com said:
In 2022, there were a total of 19 fatalities and 53 injuries reported due to lighting in the United States. In the previous year, there were 11 deaths and 69 injuries reported due to lightning nationwide.
EducationWeek said:
140 People killed or injured in a school shootings in 2022.
40 People killed
[32 Students or other children killed. 8 School employees or other adults killed]
100 People injured.
40 People killed
[32 Students or other children killed. 8 School employees or other adults killed]
100 People injured.
https://www.edweek.org/leadership/school-shootings...
It is disturbing how many of those are people being shot in the parking lot after a HS football or basketball game.
It is disturbing how many of those are people being shot in the parking lot after a HS football or basketball game.
dvs_dave said:
alabbasi said:
school shootings are a terrible thing and unacceptable. Statistically, there's more chance of being hit by lightning. Americans don't like having their rights taken away because they understand that only they're responsible for their own family and property, and that all the police can do is come after the fact and take a report.
Obviously that’s nonsense, but it’s what the gun lobby and impressionable simpletons buy into as it plays on their inner John Rambo wet dream fantasies.It’s all very sad given the real world consequences of it all.
In 2019, gun injury became the leading cause of death among children aged birth to 19 years.
In 2020, the United States was the only country among its higher-income peers in which guns were the leading cause of death among children and adolescents.
In the 2021–2022 school year, the average number of gunfire incidents on school grounds had virtually quadrupled over the prior year, reaching an all-time high.
https://publications.aap.org/pediatrics/article/15...
The United States has had 57 times as many school shootings as all other major industrialised nations combined.
Edited by Byker28i on Sunday 14th April 17:13
dvs_dave said:
Obviously that’s nonsense, but it’s what the gun lobby and impressionable simpletons buy into as it plays on their inner John Rambo wet dream fantasies.
It’s all very sad given the real world consequences of it all.
An illusion predicated on the fallacy that owning a gun might help someone defend themselves against whatever it is Fox News is telling them to be frightened of this week.It’s all very sad given the real world consequences of it all.
dvs_dave said:
Obviously that’s nonsense, but it’s what the gun lobby and impressionable simpletons buy into as it plays on their inner John Rambo wet dream fantasies.
It’s all very sad given the real world consequences of it all.
It's fun to read the opinion of a know it all who has no experience and no vote. Please carry on :-)It’s all very sad given the real world consequences of it all.
alabbasi said:
dvs_dave said:
Obviously that’s nonsense, but it’s what the gun lobby and impressionable simpletons buy into as it plays on their inner John Rambo wet dream fantasies.
It’s all very sad given the real world consequences of it all.
It's fun to read the opinion of a know it all who has no experience and no vote. Please carry on :-)It’s all very sad given the real world consequences of it all.
I've had multiple opportunities to move to America (California) and I am so happy that I didn't take any of them up. I mean goodness who wants to live in that constant fear your children are going to get shot? Let's use that phrase again, your children are going to get shot! What is wrong with the world.
alabbasi said:
dvs_dave said:
Obviously that’s nonsense, but it’s what the gun lobby and impressionable simpletons buy into as it plays on their inner John Rambo wet dream fantasies.
It’s all very sad given the real world consequences of it all.
It's fun to read the opinion of a know it all who has no experience and no vote. Please carry on :-)It’s all very sad given the real world consequences of it all.
boxst said:
I've had multiple opportunities to move to America (California) and I am so happy that I didn't take any of them up. I mean goodness who wants to live in that constant fear your children are going to get shot? Let's use that phrase again, your children are going to get shot! What is wrong with the world.
Unless they're in a gang or hanging out with the wrong people...it's unlikely enough that you wouldn't sit around worrying unless you're a nutter.After the unfortunate events in Sydney it was interesting to note the different responses.
In Aus a lone policewoman went in and shot the guy.
In the US what appears to typically happen is several hundred cops turn up and stand around outside while waiting for someone else to go and resolve the situation, or for the shooter to run out of bullets or shoot themselves.
Still, at least in the US there's a chance some 'good guy with a gun' will turn up to take some action.
I mean, that'll happen ONE DAY, eventually won't it?
In Aus a lone policewoman went in and shot the guy.
In the US what appears to typically happen is several hundred cops turn up and stand around outside while waiting for someone else to go and resolve the situation, or for the shooter to run out of bullets or shoot themselves.
Still, at least in the US there's a chance some 'good guy with a gun' will turn up to take some action.
I mean, that'll happen ONE DAY, eventually won't it?
5 In a Row said:
After the unfortunate events in Sydney it was interesting to note the different responses.
In Aus a lone policewoman went in and shot the guy.
In the US what appears to typically happen is several hundred cops turn up and stand around outside while waiting for someone else to go and resolve the situation, or for the shooter to run out of bullets or shoot themselves.
Still, at least in the US there's a chance some 'good guy with a gun' will turn up to take some action.
I mean, that'll happen ONE DAY, eventually won't it?
Rittenhouse?In Aus a lone policewoman went in and shot the guy.
In the US what appears to typically happen is several hundred cops turn up and stand around outside while waiting for someone else to go and resolve the situation, or for the shooter to run out of bullets or shoot themselves.
Still, at least in the US there's a chance some 'good guy with a gun' will turn up to take some action.
I mean, that'll happen ONE DAY, eventually won't it?
(Don't bite)
5 In a Row said:
After the unfortunate events in Sydney it was interesting to note the different responses.
In Aus a lone policewoman went in and shot the guy.
In the US what appears to typically happen is several hundred cops turn up and stand around outside while waiting for someone else to go and resolve the situation, or for the shooter to run out of bullets or shoot themselves.
Still, at least in the US there's a chance some 'good guy with a gun' will turn up to take some action.
I mean, that'll happen ONE DAY, eventually won't it?
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/indiana-mall-shooting-elisjsha-dicken-neutralized-gunman-15-seconds/In Aus a lone policewoman went in and shot the guy.
In the US what appears to typically happen is several hundred cops turn up and stand around outside while waiting for someone else to go and resolve the situation, or for the shooter to run out of bullets or shoot themselves.
Still, at least in the US there's a chance some 'good guy with a gun' will turn up to take some action.
I mean, that'll happen ONE DAY, eventually won't it?
I remember that one well, lots of coverage, even on BBC.
https://www.denverpost.com/2007/12/10/guards-hands...
A year after I moved to the US.
alabbasi said:
dvs_dave said:
Obviously that’s nonsense, but it’s what the gun lobby and impressionable simpletons buy into as it plays on their inner John Rambo wet dream fantasies.
It’s all very sad given the real world consequences of it all.
It's fun to read the opinion of a know it all who has no experience and no vote. Please carry on :-)It’s all very sad given the real world consequences of it all.
What about you, dips
t?jimmyjimjim said:
5 In a Row said:
After the unfortunate events in Sydney it was interesting to note the different responses.
In Aus a lone policewoman went in and shot the guy.
In the US what appears to typically happen is several hundred cops turn up and stand around outside while waiting for someone else to go and resolve the situation, or for the shooter to run out of bullets or shoot themselves.
Still, at least in the US there's a chance some 'good guy with a gun' will turn up to take some action.
I mean, that'll happen ONE DAY, eventually won't it?
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/indiana-mall-shooting-elisjsha-dicken-neutralized-gunman-15-seconds/In Aus a lone policewoman went in and shot the guy.
In the US what appears to typically happen is several hundred cops turn up and stand around outside while waiting for someone else to go and resolve the situation, or for the shooter to run out of bullets or shoot themselves.
Still, at least in the US there's a chance some 'good guy with a gun' will turn up to take some action.
I mean, that'll happen ONE DAY, eventually won't it?
I remember that one well, lots of coverage, even on BBC.
https://www.denverpost.com/2007/12/10/guards-hands...
A year after I moved to the US.
What about all the other ones that have received lots of coverage?
How many cops were standing outside Uvalde?
The above news report about the young civilian killing the shooter does say that it's very rare for a civilian to shoot a perp at a mass shooting.
Unless you are trained it must be very difficult to work out what's going on when your normal day at a shopping centre suddenly gets violent.
I'd just left a coffee shop with my grown up daughter on my local High street. Suddenly there was screaming (female) and a guy yelling, coming from the bakery opposite.
A few women ran out of the door and most passersby froze, looked confused.
I started heading to said shop and got to the door to find a bloke and presumably his partner having a full on screaming match. Baked goods were strewn on the floor.
The bloke then left, pushed past me (he was much bigger) and stormed off down the street.
I'm writing this weeks later and now think I'm pretty sure what was going on but at the time it was confusing.
Good job I don't carry a gun as I might have shredded a few paninis (It was a posh bakery)
Sadly there have been cases of the good guy with a gun getting shot by the cops.
Unless you are trained it must be very difficult to work out what's going on when your normal day at a shopping centre suddenly gets violent.
I'd just left a coffee shop with my grown up daughter on my local High street. Suddenly there was screaming (female) and a guy yelling, coming from the bakery opposite.
A few women ran out of the door and most passersby froze, looked confused.
I started heading to said shop and got to the door to find a bloke and presumably his partner having a full on screaming match. Baked goods were strewn on the floor.
The bloke then left, pushed past me (he was much bigger) and stormed off down the street.
I'm writing this weeks later and now think I'm pretty sure what was going on but at the time it was confusing.
Good job I don't carry a gun as I might have shredded a few paninis (It was a posh bakery)
Sadly there have been cases of the good guy with a gun getting shot by the cops.
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