Toby Young.

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Tannedbaldhead

2,952 posts

133 months

Tuesday 9th January 2018
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98elise said:
mx5nut said:
Lucas CAV said:
Just after TM gave him her backing on Sunday..... he's gone..

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2018/jan/09/toby...
People must be dreading public support by TM by now.
Been the same for decades.

When ever there is a controversy, and the PM (of any party) gives you their full backing, its just code for start packing up your desk now.
Premier league football manager's have the same problem.
"has the full confidence of the board" must turn blood to ice.

Mark Benson

7,527 posts

270 months

Tuesday 9th January 2018
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Perhaps Toby Young did get the job via the old boy's network but it seems to me that someone who's spent time working and helping to innovate in education but who is not a member of the quangocracy that runs it would be an idea candidate - Twitter history or not.

This smacks of a different 'old boys' network, the left-leaning education establishment (plus of course the usual suspects with not a hint of irony) presiding over the hounding out an outsider from their comfortable club where tolerance is preached but not practiced.

An opportunity to have a dissenting voice has been lost and although they seem to currently think this is a victory, students will lose out because of it I feel.

Lucas CAV

3,025 posts

220 months

Tuesday 9th January 2018
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Mark Benson said:
Perhaps Toby Young did get the job via the old boy's network but it seems to me that someone who's spent time working and helping to innovate in education but who is not a member of the quangocracy that runs it would be an idea candidate - Twitter history or not.

This smacks of a different 'old boys' network, the left-leaning education establishment (plus of course the usual suspects with not a hint of irony) presiding over the hounding out an outsider from their comfortable club where tolerance is preached but not practiced.

An opportunity to have a dissenting voice has been lost and although they seem to currently think this is a victory, students will lose out because of it I feel.
There are plenty of other candidates with more experience from every context.

This has nothing to do with the "lefties". TY is a waste of oxygen. Plenty of people have set up all kinds of schools in more challenging settings than him. The ringing endorsement from Boris Johnson is the clincher for me: another one who makes lots of noise but gets little done.

Edited by Lucas CAV on Tuesday 9th January 12:18

Eddie Strohacker

3,879 posts

87 months

Tuesday 9th January 2018
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Lucas CAV said:
There are plenty of other candidates with more experience from every context.
Yes but he was the only one to be commissioned by Boris Johnson to write for the Spectator, who then went on to become Home Secretary along with his brother who in turn hired Toby Young for a plum job in the government.

And this is how it all actually works in real life.

98elise

26,686 posts

162 months

Tuesday 9th January 2018
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Too Drunk to Funk said:
Awkward!




Jones with BFF BoJo.
He seems to have two left hands?

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

127 months

Tuesday 9th January 2018
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98elise said:
Too Drunk to Funk said:
Awkward!

Jones with BFF BoJo.
He seems to have two left hands?
The hand on BJ's left shoulder goes with the grey suit behind him.
<edit> No, wait. The one between Young and BJ is the wrong hand to be Young's. Odd.

garagewidow

1,502 posts

171 months

Tuesday 9th January 2018
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TooMany2cvs said:
98elise said:
Too Drunk to Funk said:
Awkward!

Jones with BFF BoJo.
He seems to have two left hands?
The hand on BJ's left shoulder goes with the grey suit behind him.
<edit> No, wait. The one between Young and BJ is the wrong hand to be Young's. Odd.
have you seen the film 'society'?

they're among us I tell youpaperbag

BlackLabel

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13,251 posts

124 months

Thursday 11th January 2018
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Young clearly jumped before he was pushed. This revelation in the Private Eye surely would have got him sacked.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DTNMOiDW0AAxXYM?format...


deadslow

8,014 posts

224 months

Thursday 11th January 2018
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Kathy Burke got it about right.

Frybywire

468 posts

197 months

Thursday 11th January 2018
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An ex teacher's blog examining free schools.

https://disidealist.wordpress.com/2018/01/09/west-...

turbobloke

104,074 posts

261 months

Thursday 11th January 2018
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Frybywire said:
An ex teacher's blog examining free schools.

https://disidealist.wordpress.com/2018/01/09/west-...
Several errors of both commission and omission in there, then again correcting them would make a less titillating (bapivating?!) tale to soothe lefties. The left-wing bias in the ex-teacher's commentary is as notable as any right-wing bias in defence of WLFS.

Randy Winkman

16,214 posts

190 months

Thursday 11th January 2018
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turbobloke said:
Frybywire said:
An ex teacher's blog examining free schools.

https://disidealist.wordpress.com/2018/01/09/west-...
Several errors of both commission and omission in there, then again correcting them would make a less titillating (bapivating?!) tale to soothe lefties. The left-wing bias in the ex-teacher's commentary is as notable as any right-wing bias in defence of WLFS.
But Toby Young is a prat isn't he?

turbobloke

104,074 posts

261 months

Thursday 11th January 2018
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Randy Winkman said:
turbobloke said:
Frybywire said:
An ex teacher's blog examining free schools.

https://disidealist.wordpress.com/2018/01/09/west-...
Several errors of both commission and omission in there, then again correcting them would make a less titillating (bapivating?!) tale to soothe lefties. The left-wing bias in the ex-teacher's commentary is as notable as any right-wing bias in defence of WLFS.
But Toby Young is a prat isn't he?
hehe

That's a leading question, isn't it...or does it allude to another anatomical reference in a TY tweet?

wst

3,494 posts

162 months

Thursday 11th January 2018
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richie99 said:
He’s a bit of a liberal for my liking but I can see why he might look like Atilla to the usual lefty quangocrats.
Ignoring the eugenics stuff I'd be able see how this is a valid stance to have.

Halb

53,012 posts

184 months

Thursday 11th January 2018
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wst said:
gnoring the eugenics stuff I'd be able see how this is a valid stance to have.
hehe
Just like Hitler, take away the eugenics, and he was a raving lefty too.

BlackLabel

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13,251 posts

124 months

wst

3,494 posts

162 months

Thursday 11th January 2018
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In the absense of more conclusive proof of him being a crazed eugenicist I'd like to retract that previous comment, but if something inexcusable comes up I'd appreciate it if I'm heralded as prescient.

Yipper

5,964 posts

91 months

Thursday 11th January 2018
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This really all boils down to the extremist metropolitan Left not wanting a Tory on a cosy quango that can influence young people and their future leanings (votes).

Typical pattern of behaviour and control-freakery by the nasty red Left.

Dig up a minor comment from the past, smear them as a hate crime, and then keep pounding until they go away. Replace with Left-friendly person on cosy quango.

wst

3,494 posts

162 months

Thursday 11th January 2018
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Ah Yipper, it was all making sense until your markov chain generator went a bit Joe McCarthy. Why would the left be able to replace anyone from their position as... the Opposition? It's an open goal for the Tories to place whoever they want in whatever Cabinet post they want - some of them might even be able to cope with being disliked while in that role.

JagLover

42,490 posts

236 months

Friday 12th January 2018
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wst said:
Ah Yipper, it was all making sense until your markov chain generator went a bit Joe McCarthy. Why would the left be able to replace anyone from their position as... the Opposition? It's an open goal for the Tories to place whoever they want in whatever Cabinet post they want - some of them might even be able to cope with being disliked while in that role.
Well it is actually a minor post in a minor quango, but still we saw the hysteria that resulted. Including the Private Eye article above, which appears, based on Toby Young's response to be a gross misrepresentation of his actual views on the subject and indeed past actions.

Unless the government is willing to ignore the MSM, then on many areas it will be in office but not in power.