Nigel Farage - pay docked for cheating on his Euro expenses

Nigel Farage - pay docked for cheating on his Euro expenses

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smn159

12,763 posts

218 months

Saturday 13th January 2018
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mx5nut said:
Apparently he doesn't like this particular outing on LBC being shared around

http://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/james-obrien...

It would be a shame if more people saw it hehe
Farage's nonsense seems to have a superficial appeal to some people but it really doesn't stand up to any sort of scrutiny.

I guess that's why they whinge about the 'liberal media' all the time. Farage's worldview can't be wrong so anyone who points out its inconsistencies must be part of a giant conspiracy.

Eddie Strohacker

3,879 posts

87 months

Saturday 13th January 2018
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Crackie said:
I was about to respond in a very similar vein regarding Eddie's repeated hypocrisy ( whilst possibly not being quite so brutal ). Farage is no hero of mine, far from it in fact but I've not missed Eddie's self righteous, virtue signalling, rants about leavers whilst he's been away. Eddie has a very dark heart on occasions.





Edited by Crackie on Saturday 13th January 12:30
Please do. Soz about your hurty feels & all, but like Sid before you, I invite you to offer a shred of proof that I believe all leavers are %Spits% Kippers.

citizensm1th

8,371 posts

138 months

Saturday 13th January 2018
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NRS said:
As I posted earlier is the Guardian only posting about right wing people who broke the rules in the story, or has it only been anti-EU people investigated?

Farage should get everything thrown at him, but it does seem like there was bias if it was only anti-EU people who got done.
Well Historically there have been reports of all sorts getting done for it from labour,conservative and ukip

rscott

14,789 posts

192 months

Saturday 13th January 2018
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ash73 said:
Disappointing to read about this, although he's not pocketed the money as I understand it, it's been used to fund domestic party activities. Still fraud, or maybe he just needs a better accountant, how many other politicians caught cheating on their expenses have actually been prosecuted?

What's interesting though, is how determined people are to attack him. I can't stand UKIP but he's created quite a legacy for himself as an agent of change, he's stuck by his views on Europe (while a couple of Tory MPs jumped on the bandwagon and attempted to grab the reins) and architected probably the biggest change to British politics in a lifetime.

He's a human being, complex and ultimately disappointing just like everyone else; but still quite an achievement, imo.
As has been posted earlier, several MP and Lords have been prosecuted for expenses abuse. Most who abused the system did so within the rules in place at the time though, so couldn't be.


anonymous-user

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55 months

Saturday 13th January 2018
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NG is a tt, lapped up by the brain dead, glad his true colours have been shown, now he needs to fk off.

NRS

22,238 posts

202 months

Saturday 13th January 2018
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citizensm1th said:
NRS said:
As I posted earlier is the Guardian only posting about right wing people who broke the rules in the story, or has it only been anti-EU people investigated?

Farage should get everything thrown at him, but it does seem like there was bias if it was only anti-EU people who got done.
Well Historically there have been reports of all sorts getting done for it from labour,conservative and ukip
I'm meaning MEPs. The article said it's basically relied on trust previously, which sounds like a recipe for massive expenses that would not normally be ok elsewhere. It looks like they're now cracking down on it - but is it only anti-EU MEPs, or is it just the Guardian reported right wing people as they are more of a left wing paper?

Randy Winkman

16,249 posts

190 months

Saturday 13th January 2018
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sidicks said:
Randy Winkman said:
The excuses are just "But the other boys were doing it too!".
Who said that?
2 of the 4 links above my post plus earlier stuff about only right wing MEPs being investigated.

PurpleMoonlight

22,362 posts

158 months

Saturday 13th January 2018
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ash73 said:
Disappointing to read about this, although he's not pocketed the money as I understand it, it's been used to fund domestic party activities. Still fraud, or maybe he just needs a better accountant, how many other politicians caught cheating on their expenses have actually been prosecuted?

What's interesting though, is how determined people are to attack him. I can't stand UKIP but he's created quite a legacy for himself as an agent of change, he's stuck by his views on Europe (while a couple of Tory MPs jumped on the bandwagon and attempted to grab the reins) and architected probably the biggest change to British politics in a lifetime.

He's a human being, complex and ultimately disappointing just like everyone else; but still quite an achievement, imo.
Achieved what he wanted yes, but in 10 years time I wonder if he will be celebrated or vilified.

anonymous-user

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55 months

Saturday 13th January 2018
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What if it's "just those MEPs who are on the fiddle"? Endless whataboutism won't bury the story - Farage has been caught out in a shabby bit of dishonesty.

citizensm1th

8,371 posts

138 months

Saturday 13th January 2018
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NRS said:
citizensm1th said:
NRS said:
As I posted earlier is the Guardian only posting about right wing people who broke the rules in the story, or has it only been anti-EU people investigated?

Farage should get everything thrown at him, but it does seem like there was bias if it was only anti-EU people who got done.
Well Historically there have been reports of all sorts getting done for it from labour,conservative and ukip
I'm meaning MEPs. The article said it's basically relied on trust previously, which sounds like a recipe for massive expenses that would not normally be ok elsewhere. It looks like they're now cracking down on it - but is it only anti-EU MEPs, or is it just the Guardian reported right wing people as they are more of a left wing paper?
I know you were talking about MEP's as was i .Google is your friend , several have been jailed for it.

sidicks

25,218 posts

222 months

Saturday 13th January 2018
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Randy Winkman said:
sidicks said:
Randy Winkman said:
The excuses are just "But the other boys were doing it too!".
Who said that?
2 of the 4 links above my post plus earlier stuff about only right wing MEPs being investigated.
That's not justifying what Farage did!

anonymous-user

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55 months

Saturday 13th January 2018
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The investigation took a year. Dangerous Elk is upset because the investigation was conducted by EU financial controllers and not by a court. Gosh, how unusual for an organisation to conduct its own internal investigations of expenses fiddles, just like pretty much every employer and organisation that pays people does. Definitely a conspiracy, eh? Farage has the right to challenge the decision in the Court if he wishes.

Crackie

6,386 posts

243 months

Saturday 13th January 2018
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Eddie Strohacker said:
Crackie said:
I was about to respond in a very similar vein regarding Eddie's repeated hypocrisy ( whilst possibly not being quite so brutal ). Farage is no hero of mine, far from it in fact but I've not missed Eddie's self righteous, virtue signalling, rants about leavers whilst he's been away. Eddie has a very dark heart on occasions.
Please do. Soz about your hurty feels & all, but like Sid before you, I invite you to offer a shred of proof that I believe all leavers are %Spits% Kippers.
hehe Settle down Eddie.

You've made some incorrect assumptions in your post so I would like to point them out where you are wrong.

1 ) "Soz about your hurty feels & all" I presume that gibberish means you think my feelings have been hurt ?? If that is what you mean then, no, you are wrong. To clarify, my feelings were just dismay at your hypocrisy.

2) I didn't say you "believe all leavers are %Spits% Kippers did I? That is just a prejudiced fabrication / invention of yours. Incidentally this is another example of your ingrained & jaundiced views; it would help if you read what I had actually written.


Edited by Crackie on Saturday 13th January 16:57

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

55 months

Saturday 13th January 2018
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ash73 said:
Yes, that's a fair point. Time will tell.
Look at Tony B. Everyone licked his arse now he is a pariah.

NRS

22,238 posts

202 months

Saturday 13th January 2018
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Breadvan72 said:
What if it's "just those MEPs who are on the fiddle"? Endless whataboutism won't bury the story - Farage has been caught out in a shabby bit of dishonesty.
Randy Winkman said:
2 of the 4 links above my post plus earlier stuff about only right wing MEPs being investigated.
Well done for reading what you want to, and not what was said. I said good on doing Farage for it, but was just asking if it was only him and anti-EU people - not stating it! The reason for asking about MEPs was in theory the UK parliament has had a clean up a few years ago with the expenses scandal, and so theoretically should be ok now.

It's the same arguements several of you use on here about Brexit - of course the EU will look after it's own compared to Britain. Therefore why would you not expect the EU to try and discredit anti-EU people in any way possible, even if others are doing similar? I can understand it - but what I was wondering was it just the tip of the iceberg - like we saw with the start of the expenses issue in the UK.

citizensm1th said:
I know you were talking about MEP's as was i .Google is your friend , several have been jailed for it.
That's good then that others are also being picked up for cheating. Thanks for answering the question, rather than assuming I was actually trying to excuse Farage from cheating.

jjlynn27

7,935 posts

110 months

Saturday 13th January 2018
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smile

Reading this thread is like another dessert after good Saturday lunch.

A very predictable reaction by kipper trash. Whatever deity does, especially if he is "liberating funds" from the hated EU is just the right thing to do. Am I surprised by sidicks jumping in to defend a nutter who invented his medical quals to impress people on the internet, given that he's into 'your mate' kind of thing? Not in the slightest.
Farage is not stupid. He couldn't make it in the City, found a usp that would allow him to milk system for 20 years without even showing up for work. As long as he tells the same old, tired demographics that their "no Irish, no Blacks, no Dogs" sings are actually perfectly ok and that it's just "PC, virtue signalling, lefties" trying to prevent them, he'll be adored.

Sad and entertaining in equal measure.

sidicks

25,218 posts

222 months

Saturday 13th January 2018
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jjlynn27 said:
smile
Reading this thread is like another dessert after good Saturday lunch.

A very predictable reaction by kipper trash. Whatever deity does, especially if he is "liberating funds" from the hated EU is just the right thing to do.
No one has defended him. HTH

jjlynn27 said:
smile
Am I surprised by sidicks jumping in to defend a nutter who invented his medical quals to impress people on the internet, given that he's into 'your mate' kind of thing? Not in the slightest.
I've just pointed out that citizensmIth was making a ridiculous interpretation about what Elk actually said. Nothing more than that. No surprise you'd choose to pretend something entirely different happened.


jjlynn27 said:
smile
Farage is not stupid. He couldn't make it in the City, found a usp that would allow him to milk system for 20 years without even showing up for work. As long as he tells the same old, tired demographics that their "no Irish, no Blacks, no Dogs" sings are actually perfectly ok and that it's just "PC, virtue signalling, lefties" trying to prevent them, he'll be adored.

Sad and entertaining in equal measure.
You're misrepresentation of the discussion is equally "sad and entertaining".

powerstroke

10,283 posts

161 months

Saturday 13th January 2018
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The Spruce goose said:
ash73 said:
Yes, that's a fair point. Time will tell.
Look at Tony B. Everyone licked his arse now he is a pariah.
You can't go saying that sort of thing Nigel has upset the political classes and the
smug middle class lefty types , what harm has Blair ever done ??? people need to get a grip ,
Farage should be in prison for what he has done telling tales on our beautiful generous
EU benefactors and worse still taking money from them and not worshipping them like the our great political people like the Kinocks and lord Mandelson do ....


Edited by powerstroke on Saturday 13th January 15:39

jjlynn27

7,935 posts

110 months

Saturday 13th January 2018
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sidicks said:
You're misrepresentation of the discussion is equally "sad and entertaining".
And you are correcting someone's your?

smile

citizensm1th

8,371 posts

138 months

Saturday 13th January 2018
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sidicks said:
jjlynn27 said:
smile
Am I surprised by sidicks jumping in to defend a nutter who invented his medical quals to impress people on the internet, given that he's into 'your mate' kind of thing? Not in the slightest.
I've just pointed out that citizensmIth was making a ridiculous interpretation about what Elk actually said. Nothing more than that. No surprise you'd choose to pretend something entirely different happened.
No you were being a wker as i have already pointed out to you.