Nigel Farage - pay docked for cheating on his Euro expenses

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sidicks said:

PurpleMoonlight said:

Just let him have the last word or he will never shut up.

Feel free to not get involved!

Sid sucking the life from yet another thread....

You win and nobody cares but you. Imagine you’ve been patted on the head and told what a clever boy you are.

Feel better now?

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sidicks said:

Surely the question should be, "do you feel better", given that you've only joined the thread to have a go at me?!

Yes, yes I do. Thanks for asking.

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NG is a tt, lapped up by the brain dead, glad his true colours have been shown, now he needs to fk off.

[anonymous-user]

What if it's "just those MEPs who are on the fiddle"? Endless whataboutism won't bury the story - Farage has been caught out in a shabby bit of dishonesty.

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The investigation took a year. Dangerous Elk is upset because the investigation was conducted by EU financial controllers and not by a court. Gosh, how unusual for an organisation to conduct its own internal investigations of expenses fiddles, just like pretty much every employer and organisation that pays people does. Definitely a conspiracy, eh? Farage has the right to challenge the decision in the Court if he wishes.

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ash73 said:

Yes, that's a fair point. Time will tell.

Look at Tony B. Everyone licked his arse now he is a pariah.

[anonymous-user]

Great thread lads.

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The Dangerous Elk said:

Breadvan72 said:

The investigation took a year. Dangerous Elk is upset because the investigation was conducted by EU financial controllers and not by a court. Gosh, how unusual for an organisation to conduct its own internal investigations of expenses fiddles, just like pretty much every employer and organisation that pays people does. Definitely a conspiracy, eh? Farage has the right to challenge the decision in the Court if he wishes.

Yes he does, and Farage has already said the decision is unfair and unjust.

It is very strange that an upholder of the law does not recognise there is a dispute and calls for hanging him rather than council that others should wait for a legal judgment. Double standards from you in 1000Kg bags !

He has had a year of investigation and I haven't seen any evidence that the investigation was unfair. You appear to have no evidence that it was unfair, but as it appears that in your eyes Farage can do no wrong you assume that the investigation was unfair. He can appeal if he chooses.

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The same as you. Unlike you, perhaps, I don't assume that a year long investigation by professional financial controllers is a put up job. Life outside conspiracy theory land is less fun, but more predictable.

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sidicks said:

Breadvan72 said:

The same as you. Unlike you, perhaps, I don't assume that a year long investigation by professional financial controllers is a put up job. Life outside conspiracy theory land is less fun, but more predictable.

So none then? You just implicitly trust the EU, which is fine. I have no evidence either way.

There is a presumption of regularity in public life. Mistakes are made, but conspiracies are rare. Companies, local authorities, regulators, parliaments, all of these routinely conduct internal investigations. Those who suggest that the investigations are tainted by bias or other unfairness have to suggest grounds for so alleging. "It's the EU" is not a ground. It's just a statement of prejudice. Add in the point that Farage is a known liar, and the conclusion against him here looks plausible.


"What about X, Y or Z" is whataboutism. Farage is a corrupt and dishonest professional politician who makes a career of pretending not to be a politician and alleging corruption in others.

Edited by anonymous-user on Saturday 13th January 16:43

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Those such as Elk who suggest that this is a hatchet job ought to show some reasons for thinking that. All that they can do is posit conspiracies. The facts that there has been a year long investigation and that no concrete suggestions of unfairness have been published are not meaningless.

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citizensm1th said:

Blue62 said:

Seriously BV, why do you bother with this? You'd have a more reasoned debate on a KKK forum. I've had the misfortune of actually meeting one or two of the more colourful posters in this part of PH and it was disturbing, if you realised what you're debating with you would scuttle back to the classic cars section pronto.

Oh do tell me you have met sidicks, i would love to meet sidicks.

You are right of course. There is a strange fascination in obtaining glimpses into the tiny minded, fear and hate filled world views of the ignorant right wingers who inhabit this place. It's a weird guilty pleasure, but a waste of time of course, and I am sure that most of them are just as vile in real life as their opinions here indicate them to be. In a way, I sort of feel sorry for them, as their worlds are so narrow, and they are prey to every passing charlatan who sets out to frighten them. But not very sorry.

Edited by anonymous-user on Saturday 13th January 16:59

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Breadvan72 said:

You are right of course. There is a strange fascination in obtaining glimpses into the tiny minded, fear and hate filled world views of the ignorant right wingers who inhabit this place. It's a weird guilty pleasure, but a waste of time of course.

Was it a Burgundy lunch today, BV?

Good to see you on top form, in any event.

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desolate said:

Was it a Burgundy lunch today, BV?

Good to see you on top form, in any event.

I haven't had a drink for over a week, but might have one soon. I have waited in all afternoon for some rude idiot to come and kick the tyres of a car I am selling, but he was a no show and didn't call or email.

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Breadvan72 said:

I haven't had a drink for over a week, but might have one soon. I have waited in all afternoon for some rude idiot to come and kick the tyres of a car I am selling, but he was a no show and didn't call or email.

Have you tried WBAS?

I'd make tonight a two-bottler. Steady the nerves.

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The Dangerous Elk said:

Breadvan72 said:

The Dangerous Elk said:

Breadvan72 said:

The investigation took a year. Dangerous Elk is upset because the investigation was conducted by EU financial controllers and not by a court. Gosh, how unusual for an organisation to conduct its own internal investigations of expenses fiddles, just like pretty much every employer and organisation that pays people does. Definitely a conspiracy, eh? Farage has the right to challenge the decision in the Court if he wishes.

Yes he does, and Farage has already said the decision is unfair and unjust.

It is very strange that an upholder of the law does not recognise there is a dispute and calls for hanging him rather than council that others should wait for a legal judgment. Double standards from you in 1000Kg bags !

He has had a year of investigation and I haven't seen any evidence that the investigation was unfair. You appear to have no evidence that it was unfair, but as it appears that in your eyes Farage can do no wrong you assume that the investigation was unfair. He can appeal if he chooses.

Another rather strange comment by our leagal advisor. Please show me where I have said ANY of the above ? .....Come on....Show Me please.

The only information that is available is what you have read in the press on the announcement from a possibly biased organisation/committee (and certainly not an independent one), this as you know is NOT evidence is it

It remains to be seen if his rejection of the Eu action is taken to court to establish the clarity of judgment required to hang the man.

I refer you to the Eu "system" as noted above by another poster, pathetic and enlightening in its failure of accountability and control of taxpayers money.

Edited by The Dangerous Elk on Saturday 13th January 16:57

Duded, I am trying to be helpful here. Please read your own stuff. You have just done what you deny doing. You assume that the investigation is biased and dodgy. You assume there is no evidence, despite the process taking a year. It's now for Farage to make his case if he claims the decision is wrong. Thus far, the usual bluff and bluster from him.

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sidicks said:

citizensm1th said:

Never say never ,Karma is a fickle bh

Are you making threats?

Pretty pathetic, even for you.

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sidicks said:

desolate said:

sidicks said:

citizensm1th said:

Never say never ,Karma is a fickle bh

Are you making threats?

Pretty pathetic, even for you.

You made the statement, what point are you making then? What form would this 'karma' take?

Calm down - see if there's any wine left over from Christmas and take a deep breath.

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sidicks said:

So you can't explain what he meant?

Yes, I can.
But I am not going to because you are on one of your rants and it will get me nowhere.
I shouldn't have interjected, but I am not going to apologise for doing so and you can FRO for good measure.

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I see that the fog lies dense in Brexitland, as usual.

The Dangerous Elk said:

Self-interested corrupt political organisation condemns and reclaims money from a person who is a pain in the arse to said self-interested corrupt political organisation.

Yep, quality Eu political based justice system in action. Our legal eagles here would sell their souls to support the Eu it seems. If that system operated in the Uk they would be screaming blue murder about the very same system being unjust.
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Full investigation? LOL
As you say this has not been judged under any law but just by a self-interested committee (not even an independent one) with an "out to get him" attitude.

There is ZERO Due process.

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The only information that is available is what you have read in the press on the announcement from a possibly biased organisation/committee (and certainly not an independent one), this as you know is NOT evidence is it

It remains to be seen if his rejection of the Eu action is taken to court to establish the clarity of judgment required to hang the man.

I refer you to the Eu "system" as noted above by another poster, pathetic and enlightening in its failure of accountability and control of taxpayers money.