Nigel Farage - pay docked for cheating on his Euro expenses

[anonymous-user]

I am sorry that you find being reminded of your own fatuous comments so upsetting. A possible solution: try remembering what you have written before becoming so shrill and weepy.

By the way, if you are going dishonestly to misquote people, learn to spell first.

[anonymous-user]

You denied that you had assumed the decision to be unfair. I posted your comments in which you did that. The issue was not whether the decision is unfair but your false denial of your own position.

On the decision itself, you believe the decision to be unfaìr "because EU" That is an irrational position born of prejudice. Which is more likely? That a politician with a track record of dishonesty is the innocent victim of a frame up, or that a bunch of corporate investigators have boringly crunched the numbers and found that Farage was misusing funds?

Edited by anonymous-user on Sunday 14th January 10:19

[anonymous-user]

stitched said:

So I guess you're a lawyer?
Are you not mandated to protect your client from the law? if defending them.
If prosecuting are you not bound to win even knowing they are innocent?
Does not the job description lawyer not imply liar?

I think you've got the wrong end of the stick.

[anonymous-user]

stitched said:

In what way?
As a defense lawyer the job is to get a not guilty verdict, regardless of facts.
As a CPS solicitor the job is to get a guilty verdict, regardless of facts
No?

No.

[anonymous-user]

BV doesn't practice criminal law.

In order to discredit and investigation the actual investigation needs to be discredited. Although it may be hard to do if the investigation isn't public.

Farage can appeal to the CJEU if he thinks he's wronged - BV, why don't you represent him pro bono?

[anonymous-user]

stitched said:

The job of a defence solicitor is what?
The job of the CPS solicitor is what?
Are either expected to take into account whether the accused is guilty or innocent?

If you are going to post so vociferously I suggest you do some basic research.

[anonymous-user]

Eddie Strohacker said:

Pout?

Another right wing spelling genius who's oh-so-easily triggered. Did you all go the same speshal skool?

The original mistake was yours Eddie.

This place is priceless sometimes.

[anonymous-user]

The primary job for criminal defence is top put forward their client's defence and test the prosecution evidence. Without doing so, how do we ensure the state gathers sufficient evidence to ensure safe and just convictions with a high standard of evidence gathering?

What are people expecting? A defendant to have to not only battle against the CPS but their own counsel?

[anonymous-user]

stitched said:

Sorry. didn't mean to imply lawyers were corrupt.
Just that their job was to lie.

Probably true if they are working for you.

[anonymous-user]

stitched said:

I am honest in all my dealings.
If I needed legal representation I would expect them to do their utmost to uphold my 'possibly dishonest' case. Is that not what they are paid for?

They wouldn't be lying if the information you give them is the truth.

[anonymous-user]

stitched said:

but even if they are aware I am lying they would still represent me in court and try and argue I was telling the truth.
No?

Ask Breadvan.

[anonymous-user]

stitched said:

but even if they are aware I am lying they would still represent me in court and try and argue I was telling the truth.
No?

No.

[anonymous-user]

stitched said:

Nanook said:

stitched said:

Sorry. didn't mean to imply lawyers were corrupt.
Just that their job was to lie.

What they each choose to do is one thing.

What the actual job definition is, is the complete opposite of your description.

I thought an advocate was by definition paid to advocate, no?

What are the duties and obligations of a barrister?


Barristers have ten Core Duties that they are required to follow at all times. These are contained in the BSB Handbook. They are:

1. To observe their duty to the court in the administration of justice

- This is the most important duty of a barrister in that it overrides all of the others. It means that a barrister must not mislead or lie to the court, must not abuse their role, must not waste the court's time and must try to make sure that the court has all the relevant information it needs. A barrister's duty to the court does not require them to breach the duty of confidentiality that they have to their client (see Core Duty 6 below).

2. To act in the best interests of each client

- A barrister that is working for you must always be thinking about what is best for you, and do his job in a way that reflects that. This does not mean that a barrister can lie on your behalf, or that they must do everything you tell them. Their duty to the court comes above even their duty to you as their client. This means that they cannot do anything for you that would go against their duty to the court.

3. To act with honesty and integrity

- The duty to act with honesty and integrity includes not misleading or lying to anyone, not encouraging other people to mislead or be untruthful, not paying witnesses for their help, and only accepting money and fees that they are legally allowed to.

[anonymous-user]

The Dangerous Elk said:

PurpleMoonlight said:

Have you stopped taking the pills again?

no need, unlike you I am not suffering mental blindness to who and what the Eu is about.

Break out the Bacofoil.

Your dislike (I use that word as less emotive than prejudice) of the EU does appear to be clouding your judgement though. Farage has been investigated and found to have misappropriated/misused EU funds. His salary is being docked to repay this. How is this any different to me (or you) being investigated at work for misconduct? If I (or you) are found guilty then we can expect some sort of sanction. Our employers don't have to take us to court to make this decision or apply the sanction. We may feel our employer is prejudiced against (or dislike) us as you appear to believe with Farage and the EU. It is up to us to demonstrate this prejudice/dislike during the investigation. If we believe we are right but the decision goes against us we have recourse to take the matter to a court/tribunal. Same applies to Farage. Just because he hasn't taken it 'all the way' doesn't mean he isn't guilty. Would you suggest that someone found guilty of nicking from Tesco is innocent because he doesn't take the case to the House of Lords?

Shifty bloke has been investigated and found to have done wrong. MY belief is that the investigation is sound. I may be wrong. In any event, Farage has the opportunity to take the case further and prove his innocence. Can't see the problem with it I'm afraid.

[anonymous-user]

‘’NIGEL FARAGE - PAY DOCKED FOR CHEATING ON HIS EURO EXPENSES’’
Good

[anonymous-user]

The Dangerous Elk said:

Try asking Nick Clegg about his voting record, is he doing the Job the voters of his constituency ? or was he given the job of trying to subvert Brexit ? Laughable double standards by A remainer again.

eh?

[anonymous-user]

The Dangerous Elk said:

desolate said:

eh?

Hint, accusations about NF's voting record.

Nick Clegg doesn't have a constituency.

[anonymous-user]

The Dangerous Elk said:

he did....don't be simple

edit your post so it makes then.

will leave you to it.

[anonymous-user]

rscott said:

Would you agree that Farage's voting record is pretty poor?

He already has done.

[anonymous-user]

Dindoit said:

It must be tough for men like Farage and Bannon. They’ve both been successful (arguably hugely) with their single issue politics but now they’re essentially jobless. They still want to shout about their things but the best they get is being a talking head before heading home alone. Old, divorced, loathed by most, poor health.

Look, just stop having tantrums will ya! You'll upset Silly and Elk again!