Nigel Farage - pay docked for cheating on his Euro expenses

[bitchstewie]

The whataboutery is great but seems a bit of a diversion from what Nige the "man of the people" has been found by the EU to have been up to.

[JimbobVFR]

TooMany2cvs said:

But they were the rules in place.

What other "industry" would let the staff who benefit make up the rules. I know that's a simplistic view but it has more than a grain of truth to it.

[anonymous-user]

TooMany2cvs said:

gooner1 said:

How is Farrage's offence any different to our Mp's expenses fraud?
Because as far as I can tell, there aren't many politicians that
wouldn't fill their pockets with taxpayers money given the slightest chance.

Simple. The vast majority of the expenses "fraud" was within the rules - it was just that the rules were piss-takingly loose.

Farridge is breaking the rules. He was claiming for the cost of employing an office assistant who was doing things that were unrelated to his job as an MEP - and was, coincidentally, a UKIP staffer.

Also note this - "In 2016 a Ukip-dominated group was denied €501,000 in EU funds after it emerged European money had been funnelled into the attempts to win Farage a seat in the 2015 UK general election."

This is even more serious than MP pocket lining.

[anonymous-user]

bhstewie said:

The whataboutery is great but seems a bit of a diversion from what Nige the "man of the people" has been found by the EU to have been up to.

This. There are some here keen to put up smoke to defend their beloved leader, but the plain fact is that he has been exposed as the cheating scumbag that anyone with half a clue knew him to be.

[Kuji]

gooner1 said:

citizensm1th said:

Breadvan72 said:

As on so many political subjects, references to Athens (or really to what Thucydides tells us about Athens) resonate in Brexitland. The Mytilenian Debate is bang on point on the subject of a second referendum. Democracies can change their minds. Suggesting otherwise is the authoritarian position of Cleon.

Sorry dude but that just went about a million miles above my head,i hate you sometimes now i have to go and read some.

It's just BV's way of reaching out to the common man.

PH is choca full of people who want other people to know their differing views.

In days of old they would have just bought a soap box and stood on a corner shouting at everyone while being bracketed as a weirdos, by the people passing by.

[anonymous-user]

"Discussion forum used for discussion" SHOCKA.

[The Dangerous Elk]

Breadvan72 said:

bhstewie said:

The whataboutery is great but seems a bit of a diversion from what Nige the "man of the people" has been found by the EU to have been up to.

This. There are some here keen to put up smoke to defend their beloved leader, but the plain fact is that he has been exposed as the cheating scumbag that anyone with half a clue knew him to be.

Self-interested corrupt political organisation condemns and reclaims money from a person who is a pain in the arse to said self-interested corrupt political organisation.

Yep, quality Eu political based justice system in action. Our legal eagles here would sell their souls to support the Eu it seems. If that system operated in the Uk they would be screaming blue murder about the very same system being unjust.

[anonymous-user]

You are blinded by your prejudice. There has been a full investigation and Farage has been found bang to rights. He has the right to appeal to the court if he wishes. Due process and the rule of law are not popular with some Brexiteers, but they are available to Farage.

If you assert that Farage has not taken money on a fraudulent basis and has been falsely accused, do show us your proof of that.

[anonymous-user]

ClaphamGT3 said:

I have always said that Farage was fundamentally dishonest. All the usual fanboys have queued up to defend him. Now you can't - it is there for all to see; the guy is a grubby little thief

???

Show me a politician, or lawyer come to that, who isn’t ‘fundamentally dishonest’.

It’s pretty clear why this st is being thrown at Farage, which proves my first point, and the bleatings of the EU sheep can’t obscure it.

[The Dangerous Elk]

Breadvan72 said:

You are blinded by your prejudice. There has been a full investigation and Farage has been found bang to rights. He has the right to appeal to the court if he wishes. Due process and the rule of law are not popular with some Brexiteers, but they are available to Farage.

In this discussion you are a prime example of You are blinded by your prejudice are you not ? Can you describe yourself as a "fair and independent" voice on this subject? Your record here would say no I think.

Full investigation? LOL
As you say this has not been judged under any law but just by a self-interested committee (not even an independent one) with an "out to get him" attitude.

There is ZERO Due process. As I said you would be the first jumping up and down & and shouting about the system/due process/"political justice" for any other reason.

Edited by The Dangerous Elk on Saturday 13th January 10:08

[anonymous-user]

REALIST123 said:

???

Show me a politician, or lawyer come to that, who isn’t ‘fundamentally dishonest’.

It’s pretty clear why this st is being thrown at Farage, which proves my first point, and the bleatings of the EU sheep can’t obscure it.

What a ludicrous thing to say. Many politicians are honest. Sometimes wrong headed, but not dishonest. Many are dishonest, but not all. Affecting disdain for all politicians is a popular thing with authoritarians and their followers, and people like Farage play up to that big style. I shan't dignify your pathetic comment about lawyers with a response.

[Otispunkmeyer]

DeejRC said:

Nigel Farage acting like a pin stripe suited wide boy barrow boy on the make? Nooo! Never!

The only thing that shocks me about such a thing is that anybody is shocked.

Indeed. He might wear a different colour veneer on the outside. But he's cut from the same cloth as the rest of them on the inside. I'd be more surprised if he wasn't on the fiddle.

[gooner1]

Breadvan72 said:

bhstewie said:

The whataboutery is great but seems a bit of a diversion from what Nige the "man of the people" has been found by the EU to have been up to.

This. There are some here keen to put up smoke to defend their beloved leader, but the plain fact is that he has been exposed as the cheating scumbag that anyone with half a clue knew him to be.

Farrage is neither my Beloved, nor my Leader.
I also wasn't defending his actions , I was however likening them to others, who, arguably have more power and influence.

[anonymous-user]

The Dangerous Elk said:

In this discussion you are a prime example of You are blinded by your prejudice are you not ?

Full investigation ? LOL
As you say this has not been judged under any law but just by a self-interested committee (not even an independent one) with an "out to get him" attitude.

There is ZERO Due process. As I said you would be the first jumping up and down & and shouting about the system/due process/"political justice" for any other reason.

There you again showing blind loyalty to your hero. Facts? You evidently are not interested in those. This must be a conspiracy, right? Or, rather more boringly, Farage has been caught out mis using public funds, after an investigation that lasted months. You put your fingers in your ears and go la la la, but that is what Farage fans do. He can go to the court if he has been mis judged.

[anonymous-user]

REALIST123 said:

???

Show me a politician, or lawyer come to that, who isn’t ‘fundamentally dishonest’.

It’s pretty clear why this st is being thrown at Farage, which proves my first point, and the bleatings of the EU sheep can’t obscure it.

Let's hope that Farage spots this post and uses it in his defence if he appeals.

[Alpinestars]

Demagoguery, sophistry, solipsism and now a mountebank.

The man of the people.

[mx5nut]

bhstewie said:

Now Farage is on LBC 5 days a week it's easy to hear more of him.

Once you do hear more of him you realise he's a one-trick pony and he doesn't like or stand up well to being challenged on pretty much any of the things he says.

Apparently he doesn't like this particular outing on LBC being shared around

http://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/james-obrien...

It would be a shame if more people saw it

[TooMany2cvs]

JimbobVFR said:

TooMany2cvs said:

But they were the rules in place.

What other "industry" would let the staff who benefit make up the rules. I know that's a simplistic view but it has more than a grain of truth to it.

Indeed.

Which is precisely why IPSA was formed as a result.

[ClaphamGT3]

REALIST123 said:

ClaphamGT3 said:

I have always said that Farage was fundamentally dishonest. All the usual fanboys have queued up to defend him. Now you can't - it is there for all to see; the guy is a grubby little thief

???

Show me a politician, or lawyer come to that, who isn’t ‘fundamentally dishonest’.

It’s pretty clear why this st is being thrown at Farage, which proves my first point, and the bleatings of the EU sheep can’t obscure it.

Farage knowingly took money that he knew wasn't his and that he wasn't entitled to. Most politicians do not do this.

What part of this is hard to understand?

[mx5nut]

ClaphamGT3 said:

REALIST123 said:

ClaphamGT3 said:

I have always said that Farage was fundamentally dishonest. All the usual fanboys have queued up to defend him. Now you can't - it is there for all to see; the guy is a grubby little thief

???

Show me a politician, or lawyer come to that, who isn’t ‘fundamentally dishonest’.

It’s pretty clear why this st is being thrown at Farage, which proves my first point, and the bleatings of the EU sheep can’t obscure it.

Farage knowingly took money that he knew wasn't his and that he wasn't entitled to. Most politicians do not do this.

What part of this is hard to understand?

To his fan club, Farage is a breath of fresh air/man of the people/different to all the career politicians when he does something they like, and can't help it because all politicians are the same/just going along with the crowd/would be at a disadvantage if he didn't because the rest are doing it if he does something wrong.

And it's not fair that the MSM reports accurately on things he does, it makes him look bad, you see.