More UKIP woes

[TooMany2cvs]

eccles said:

And yet here in East Anglia (and in the same town as it happened), the headline has been all along that he is an ex marine, and the ukip angle just gets a passing mention.

He's 64 years old. How long since he was an active Royal Marine?

He was elected in 2013.

[don'tbesilly]

jjlynn27 said:

don'tbesilly said:

For some being a former councillor of UKIP is of more importance than the fact that the former councillor murdered his wife, it's highly unlikely his former political allegiance/beliefs had anything to do with the motive behind the crime.

Still political point scoring over a family tragedy is of far more importance to some,one in particular.

Good old Hans. Nothing if not predictable.

He's former UKIP councillor. Not only was he a member (voluntary action) but he was also elected as a councillor. You'd have to be severely damaged to have an affair with your son's partner. You'd have to be severely damaged to kill your partner of 42 years, and then lie that it was self-defence.

You'd have to be severely damaged to think that it's ok to urinate on people's property while delivering leaflets, and then try to force yourself into their property.

You'd have to be severely damaged to refer to people as 'ting tong from somewhere'.

You'd have to be severely damaged to say that 'some homosexuals prefer sex with animals'.

You'd have to be severely damaged to say that 'gay donkey tried to rape your horse'.

You'd have to be severely damaged to want to 'cure gays'.

and so on ....

All of the above are not just members, but people selected to represent UKIP on various levels. Selected ones, if you want.


The story is in the news. These people are/were representatives of UKIP. You might want to pretend that stories like this one don't add to up to 'more UKIP woes', but they do.

As for importance; that part of your post was particularly stupid. It's not a competition. I might have all the sympathy in the world for the kids, I might have none. It would change nothing.

I wouldn't expect someone who can't figure out particularly bad photoshop to understand that.

Ok, Hans?

Former councillor of a (failing/failed) party murders his partner of 42 years, which adds to the woes of a party (that barely exists politically) that the murderer no longer has any allegiance to.

Desperate stuff, from a clearly desperate and rather sad individual.

[anonymous-user]

don'tbesilly said:

Former councillor of a (failing/failed) party murders his partner of 42 years, which adds to the woes of a party (that barely exists politically) that the murderer no longer has any allegiance to.

Desperate stuff, from a clearly desperate and rather sad individual.

I'd say that it's clearly desperate and rather sad that you can't see why it has been mentioned in this thread.

Do you think that he would have got a mention in this thread if he had not been a member of UKIP ?

[alfie2244]

Ghibli said:

don'tbesilly said:

Former councillor of a (failing/failed) party murders his partner of 42 years, which adds to the woes of a party (that barely exists politically) that the murderer no longer has any allegiance to.

Desperate stuff, from a clearly desperate and rather sad individual.

I'd say that it's clearly desperate and rather sad that you can't see why it has been mentioned in this thread.

Do you think that he would have got a mention in this thread if he had not been a member of UKIP ?

I am sure he can see why it has been mentioned in this thread, as can you you. Now your Wing Commander seems to have flown off into the sunset are you now trying to suck up to the No1 sad, nasty Troll ?

[anonymous-user]

alfie2244 said:

I am sure he can see why it has been mentioned in this thread, as can you you. Now your Wing Commander seems to have flown off into the sunset are you now trying to suck up to the No1 sad, nasty Troll ?

Wing commander Alfie to the rescue

[jjlynn27]

don'tbesilly said:

Former councillor of a (failing/failed) party murders his partner of 42 years, which adds to the woes of a party (that barely exists politically) that the murderer no longer has any allegiance to.

Desperate stuff, from a clearly desperate and rather sad individual.

Oh, cmon Hans, even you should be able to figure this out. News outlets were running the story about him as an ex-UKIP councillor. You are desperate to portray that that is an irrelevance. Most news organization disagree with you. It doesn't matter that he is 'former'. What matters, in the context of this thread, is that UKIP attracts and selects damaged people to represent them. I was kind enough to give you a few examples.
Have you ever considered standing for UKIP?

[BlackLabel]

jjlynn27 said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-suffolk-4486...

That 999 call is something else.

[jjlynn27]

I know, I know, he's a 'former' leader of UKIP, but way too funny.



and the background story;

"The former Ukip leader used a doctored image to meet his anti-migrant agenda."

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/jul...

How dim do you have to think your target audience is in order to tweet that image?

[VitorioVeloce]

jjlynn27 said:

I know, I know, he's a 'former' leader of UKIP, but way too funny.



and the background story;

"The former Ukip leader used a doctored image to meet his anti-migrant agenda."

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/jul...

How dim do you have to think your target audience is in order to tweet that image?

Im pretty sure doctors should be properly offended by the use of the word "doctored" to describe that image...

[don'tbesilly]

jjlynn27 said:

don'tbesilly said:

Former councillor of a (failing/failed) party murders his partner of 42 years, which adds to the woes of a party (that barely exists politically) that the murderer no longer has any allegiance to.

Desperate stuff, from a clearly desperate and rather sad individual.

Oh, cmon Hans, even you should be able to figure this out. News outlets were running the story about him as an ex-UKIP councillor. You are desperate to portray that that is an irrelevance. Most news organization disagree with you. It doesn't matter that he is 'former'. What matters, in the context of this thread, is that UKIP attracts and selects damaged people to represent them. I was kind enough to give you a few examples.
Have you ever considered standing for UKIP?

The fact that the Guy was a former member/councillor of UKIP is an irrelevance in the context of the story.

The Guy murdered his wife, he could have been a Tory/Labour/Green/insert party of choice member/councillor or not bothered about politics at all, the fact he was a former UKIP councillor didn't in any way shape or form make him murder his wife, or did it?

If the murder of his wife was in any way linked to him being a former UKIP councillor can you provide the evidence that you clearly think exists.
Did the Guy use the fact that he was a former member/councillor of UKIP as a mitigating factor in his defence?
Maybe if he hadn't been a former member of UKIP, the murder wouldn't have happened.
Perhaps that was what caused the murder as opposed to the fact he was having an affair with his son's partner.

The media clearly knows it's audience, pop UKIP in the headline and people like you are all over it like a bee around a jar of honey, you've fallen for it hook, line and sinker.
You feed, get nourishment from and flourish on a non existent link between being a former member of UKIP and the murder of a wife,mother and grandmother, you should be really proud of yourself, well done

I'll not bother with your last sentence, it's not worth dignifying with a response.

[bitchstewie]

I think it's just as likely to have been reported as "Former Labour councillor" or "Former Tory councillor" to be honest.

I'm not sure the media have singled out the UKIP angle any more than they would anyone who had a vaguely public political role.

[alfie2244]

I disagree............former councillor or Marine perhaps but what has the political party got to do with it?......btw how much was the house worth?

eta........I don't read redtops so no idea if the Sun supports UKIP or not but they led with the marine angle and it look as if he had a more interesting life outside of UKIP.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/6801557/stephen-sear...

Edited by alfie2244 on Wednesday 18th July 18:25

[bitchstewie]

alfie2244 said:

I disagree............former councillor or Marine perhaps but what has the political party got to do with it?......btw how much was the house worth?

I'm not suggesting it has anything to do with it.

I'm simply saying that media reporting headlines that way doesn't seem unique when it's UKIP as a 30 second Google of "conservative councillor jailed" or "labour councillor jailed" would show.

[alfie2244]

bhstewie said:

alfie2244 said:

I disagree............former councillor or Marine perhaps but what has the political party got to do with it?......btw how much was the house worth?

I'm not suggesting it has anything to do with it.

I'm simply saying that media reporting headlines that way doesn't seem unique when it's UKIP as a 30 second Google of "conservative councillor jailed" or "labour councillor jailed" would show.

edited my post above

I take your point but I do wonder if certain media cite the political leaning only if it suits their own political agenda's.

[bitchstewie]

alfie2244 said:

edited my post above

I take your point but I do wonder if certain media cite the political leaning only if it suits their own political agenda's.

I'm sure it's possible and I'm sure it happens, but I honestly can't say I've heard/read any report on this where UKIP has been mentioned beyond the headline.

There's more of it on this thread than in the media basically.

[jjlynn27]

don'tbesilly said:

The fact that the Guy was a former member/councillor of UKIP is an irrelevance in the context of the story.

The Guy murdered his wife, he could have been a Tory/Labour/Green/insert party of choice member/councillor or not bothered about politics at all, the fact he was a former UKIP councillor didn't in any way shape or form make him murder his wife, or did it?

He also had an affair with his son's partner. Fact that he was a former UKIP councillor didn't make him murder his wife, nor being UKIP councillor made him had an affair with son's partner. Being low life trash made him have an affair with his son's partner. Being coward and broken beyond repair made him kill his partner of 42 years. UKIP seems to attract a disproportionate number of broken people / low brow trash.

Julia Gasper didn't say;

homophobic UKIP trash said:

As for the links between homosexuality and paedophilia, there is so much evidence that even a full-length book could hardly do justice to the ­subject.

because she joined UKIP. She joined UKIP and was elected as Oxford branch chairwoman because she is homophobic trash.

Hans said:

If the murder of his wife was in any way linked to him being a former UKIP councillor can you provide the evidence that you clearly think exists.
Did the Guy use the fact that he was a former member/councillor of UKIP as a mitigating factor in his defence?
Maybe if he hadn't been a former member of UKIP, the murder wouldn't have happened.
Perhaps that was what caused the murder as opposed to the fact he was having an affair with his son's partner.

See above.

Hans said:

The media clearly knows it's audience, pop UKIP in the headline and people like you are all over it like a bee around a jar of honey, you've fallen for it hook, line and sinker.

There is nothing to 'fall for'. Media reported the facts.

Hans said:

You feed, get nourishment from and flourish on a non existent link between being a former member of UKIP and the murder of a wife,mother and
grandmother, you should be really proud of yourself, well done

Stupid, if predictable, even by your rather low standards.

[jjlynn27]

VitorioVeloce said:

jjlynn27 said:

I know, I know, he's a 'former' leader of UKIP, but way too funny.



and the background story;

"The former Ukip leader used a doctored image to meet his anti-migrant agenda."

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/jul...

How dim do you have to think your target audience is in order to tweet that image?

Im pretty sure doctors should be properly offended by the use of the word "doctored" to describe that image...

You are right. But whatever you want to say about Farage & Co. they do know their audience. Take another, let's say photoshoped, image;

Can you believe that some people are so dim that they couldn't figure out that ID-Card with number 123456789, for starters, is a bad photoshop job?

[don'tbesilly]

jjlynn27 said:

don'tbesilly said:

The fact that the Guy was a former member/councillor of UKIP is an irrelevance in the context of the story.

The Guy murdered his wife, he could have been a Tory/Labour/Green/insert party of choice member/councillor or not bothered about politics at all, the fact he was a former UKIP councillor didn't in any way shape or form make him murder his wife, or did it?

He also had an affair with his son's partner. Fact that he was a former UKIP councillor didn't make him murder his wife, nor being UKIP councillor made him had an affair with son's partner. Being low life trash made him have an affair with his son's partner. Being coward and broken beyond repair made him kill his partner of 42 years. UKIP seems to attract a disproportionate number of broken people / low brow trash.

Julia Gasper didn't say;

homophobic UKIP trash said:

As for the links between homosexuality and paedophilia, there is so much evidence that even a full-length book could hardly do justice to the ­subject.

because she joined UKIP. She joined UKIP and was elected as Oxford branch chairwoman because she is homophobic trash.

Hans said:

If the murder of his wife was in any way linked to him being a former UKIP councillor can you provide the evidence that you clearly think exists.
Did the Guy use the fact that he was a former member/councillor of UKIP as a mitigating factor in his defence?
Maybe if he hadn't been a former member of UKIP, the murder wouldn't have happened.
Perhaps that was what caused the murder as opposed to the fact he was having an affair with his son's partner.

See above.

Hans said:

The media clearly knows it's audience, pop UKIP in the headline and people like you are all over it like a bee around a jar of honey, you've fallen for it hook, line and sinker.

There is nothing to 'fall for'. Media reported the facts.

Hans said:

You feed, get nourishment from and flourish on a non existent link between being a former member of UKIP and the murder of a wife,mother and
grandmother, you should be really proud of yourself, well done

Stupid, if predictable, even by your rather low standards.

More nonsense with links to more irrelevance to the story you originally linked to.

Pathetic, if predictable, even by your gutter level standards.

[jjlynn27]

don'tbesilly said:

More nonsense with links to more irrelevance to the story you originally linked to.

Pathetic, if predictable, even by your gutter level standards.

Given that it's you Hans, I tried to help you out by giving you examples.

I do, however, understand your instincts to defend kippers. Birds of a feather and all that.

Maybe in the future just stick to decoding id-cards?

[irocfan]

jjlynn27 said:

Given that it's you Hans, I tried to help you out by giving you examples.

I do, however, understand your instincts to defend kippers. Birds of a feather and all that.

Maybe in the future just stick to decoding id-cards?

so by your logic being a fat child-abusing fk makes you more likely to be a liberal as does hiring a hit-man? Of course not, stop talking out of your arse for once