Migration & Immigration

[TooMany2cvs]

Roman Rhodes said:

70% of FTSE company revenues come from outside the UK.

Which FTSE are we talking about here?

FTSE 100 is certainly mostly multinationals, yep.
FTSE 250 is much more rooted in the UK.

[Hayek]

Biker 1 said:

Boosted LS1 said:

The biggest mistake was in taking in the unattached young males who really have helped to increase crime figures all across Europe. Utube is awash with violence being carried out by immigrants.

Mrs Merkel certainly dropped a massive clanger on this one. Who are all these young men supposed to marry & have offspring with? As mentioned by others, the integration of refugees, & indeed other migrants, is at the core of the problem.

If you have a read around, it sounds like the German government might be more keen to integrate Germany with the refugees rather than the other way round.

IMO you could probably have close to open borders if there was no welfare state. Eliminate all forms of state support including the NHS, schools etc and you'd eliminate the problem.

[Voldemort]

Hayek said:

Eliminate all forms of state support including the NHS, schools etc and you'd eliminate the problem.

It would, I think, be preferable to have a global minimum standard of state support rather than none at all.

[Boosted LS1]

TooMany2cvs said:

Boosted LS1 said:

Finlandia said:

Boosted LS1 said:

Finlandia said:

So 2012, in 2016 alone there were 52 handgrenade attacks in Sweden.

Who's doing it? Is it gang related and where are the grenades coming from?

Gang related, grenades coming in from the Balkans mainly. Handgrenades are not classed as weapons by the Swedish law, and so cannot be confiscated when they come in.

You really couldn't make it up.

And here it is. Isn't it surprising how we never get told this stuff on the news,

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_grenade_atta...

Are we making assumptions about the perpetrators and motives?

Do you think they're Swedish nationals? As for motive, I'd suggest injury or death given the tools being used.

[mx5nut]

Voldemort said:

Hayek said:

Eliminate all forms of state support including the NHS, schools etc and you'd eliminate the problem.

It would, I think, be preferable to have a global minimum standard of state support rather than none at all.

There are some who genuinely believe the way to stop people wanting to come here is to make it an awful place to live/reduce our own standards to the lowest common denominator.

Even scarier - they can vote!

[mx5nut]

Boosted LS1 said:

TooMany2cvs said:

Boosted LS1 said:

Finlandia said:

Boosted LS1 said:

Finlandia said:

So 2012, in 2016 alone there were 52 handgrenade attacks in Sweden.

Who's doing it? Is it gang related and where are the grenades coming from?

Gang related, grenades coming in from the Balkans mainly. Handgrenades are not classed as weapons by the Swedish law, and so cannot be confiscated when they come in.

You really couldn't make it up.

And here it is. Isn't it surprising how we never get told this stuff on the news,

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_grenade_atta...

Are we making assumptions about the perpetrators and motives?

Do you think they're Swedish nationals? As for motive, I'd suggest injury or death given the tools being used.

Do Swedish nationals not commit crimes?

[TooMany2cvs]

Boosted LS1 said:

TooMany2cvs said:

Boosted LS1 said:

And here it is. Isn't it surprising how we never get told this stuff on the news,

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_grenade_atta...

Are we making assumptions about the perpetrators and motives?

Do you think they're Swedish nationals?

Not all Swedes are gorgeous leggy blondes and Benny from Abba, y'know.

Boosted LS1 said:

As for motive, I'd suggest injury or death given the tools being used.

Tack så mycket för det, Wallander.

[Hayek]

mx5nut said:

Voldemort said:

Hayek said:

Eliminate all forms of state support including the NHS, schools etc and you'd eliminate the problem.

It would, I think, be preferable to have a global minimum standard of state support rather than none at all.

There are some who genuinely believe the way to stop people wanting to come here is to make it an awful place to live/reduce our own standards to the lowest common denominator.

Even scarier - they can vote!

Don't dare go to Hong Kong and the like if you think the state (mis)spending less of your money for you makes for an awful place to live.

[Hayek]

Voldemort said:

Hayek said:

Eliminate all forms of state support including the NHS, schools etc and you'd eliminate the problem.

It would, I think, be preferable to have a global minimum standard of state support rather than none at all.

Who's going to pay for the state support in places where the local government hasn't got lots of productive tax payers to take the money from?

[sidicks]

mx5nut said:

There are some who genuinely believe the way to stop people wanting to come here is to make it an awful place to live/reduce our own standards to the lowest common denominator.

Even scarier - they can vote!

Who thinks that, and how do they plan to implement that thought process?

[Finlandia]

TooMany2cvs said:

Boosted LS1 said:

TooMany2cvs said:

Boosted LS1 said:

And here it is. Isn't it surprising how we never get told this stuff on the news,

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_grenade_atta...

Are we making assumptions about the perpetrators and motives?

Do you think they're Swedish nationals?

Not all Swedes are gorgeous leggy blondes and Benny from Abba, y'know.

Which goes to show what a more or less total lack of integration does to a civilised country.

[mx5nut]

Boosted LS1 said:

mx5nut said:

Funkycoldribena said:

How about the people who want them,house them? Say five years?
Let's see how many come forward.

Again, let's hope more compassionate people come forward if you or your family are ever in need.

That's why we have a welfare state.

Not if you're fleeing war, you don't.

[Tryke3]

To summarize

Brown people st
Racist whites ok

I grew up in a south london estate. ALL CRIME WAS DONE BY WHITE ENGLISH COCKY FUXKS.

Dickere my little chavy boy

Ive seen someone get out his flat to stop some crossers going over the park where children play. I Guess he wasnt ready for the 35 year old on the bike breaking his neck with swipe of his crosser boot straight to his face

But yeah, brown st people are the problem

[amusingduck]

mx5nut said:

Boosted LS1 said:

mx5nut said:

Funkycoldribena said:

How about the people who want them,house them? Say five years?
Let's see how many come forward.

Again, let's hope more compassionate people come forward if you or your family are ever in need.

That's why we have a welfare state.

Not if you're fleeing war, you don't.

Who are these people that are fleeing from war, where the UK is the first safe country they can reach?

[powerstroke]

mx5nut said:

There are some who genuinely believe the way to stop people wanting to come here is to make it an awful place to live/reduce our own standards to the lowest common denominator.

Even scarier - they can vote!

Yep people voted Labour !! Tony opened the flood gates and yes once we have enough
uncontrolled immigration people will stop coming ...

[mx5nut]

del mar said:

mx5nut said:

Funkycoldribena said:

mx5nut said:

Hopefully if you or your family are ever in the awful situation of needing to claim asylum elsewhere, it'll be somewhere more compassionate than that.

Edited by mx5nut on Wednesday 17th January 18:38

I'd stop at the first safe place though.

You can't. It's people say it's too full to help you and you don't bring anything to the country.

On the contrary a well educated skilled individual that speaks the most used business language has a lot to offer. I would also presume that he has a similar culture and belief to the average German.

Would Germany prefer a car mechanic who has spent years in a modern dealership understanding how their cars work, or an afghan peasant who can change the oil in a battered old Russian wreck ?

The Afghan peasant would be far more useful in Turkmenistan where his skills education language and culture are more similar and of more use.

English is widely spoken around the world.

People in skilled jobs do not flee war any less than "peasants".

Plenty of doctors, nurses, teachers, plumbers etc... end up as refugees.

Would you be happier if we only helped the well educated in need?

[jas xjr]

would people class what happened under the british empire as economic migration?

[sidicks]

Tryke3 said:

To summarize

Brown people st
Racist whites ok

I grew up in a south london estate. ALL CRIME WAS DONE BY WHITE ENGLISH COCKY FUXKS.

Dickere my little chavy boy

Ive seen someone get out his flat to stop some crossers going over the park where children play. I Guess he wasnt ready for the 35 year old on the bike breaking his neck with swipe of his crosser boot straight to his face

But yeah, brown st people are the problem

WTF are you blathering on about?

[Digga]

jas xjr said:

would people class what happened under the british empire as economic migration?

What like the East India Corporation - us going out there to work? Or subjects of the Empire coming to the motherland? personally, at that time and to a lesser extent now, it was a symbiotic relationship between the colonies and the colonisers. It worked both ways really and is why we still have the sort of relationship we do with many nations.

[Boydie88]

mx5nut said:

Do Swedish nationals not commit crimes?

There probably are some Swedish Nationals in the list. No one is saying there isn't.

Do you honestly think the proportions of white Swedes will be similar to those committing the crimes?

Why do the left fail completely to understand proportions when one group are responsible for a considerably higher percentage of crime than another?

You've done it again further down the page regarding skilled 'refugees'. if they are skilled, they can apply to enter the UK as an economic migrant using their own qualifications and shouldn't need to extort a fake crisis.