Migration & Immigration

[anonymous-user]

TooMany2cvs said:

Roman Rhodes said:

70% of FTSE company revenues come from outside the UK.

Which FTSE are we talking about here?

FTSE 100 is certainly mostly multinationals, yep.
FTSE 250 is much more rooted in the UK.

FTSE 100 - about 5 times the size (capitalisation) of the 250 with a much higher dividend yield. Plus, I’m not seeing masses of companies in the 250 that would have benefitted from cheap immigrant labour either.

[del mar]

mx5nut said:

English is widely spoken around the world.

People in skilled jobs do not flee war any less than "peasants".

Plenty of doctors, nurses, teachers, plumbers etc... end up as refugees.

Would you be happier if we only helped the well educated in need?

We should only bring in people who we need and will make a financial contribution to the country.

[Finlandia]

mx5nut said:

Do Swedish nationals not commit crimes?

Most of the handgrenade loving gang members are Swedish born, Swedish nationals, second or more generation immigrants.

[Voldemort]

del mar said:

We should only bring in people who we need and will make a financial contribution to the country.

'bring in'

You think we advertise somewhere? "Immigrants wanted: must be useful"

[mx5nut]

del mar said:

We should only bring in people who we need and will make a financial contribution to the country.

Hopefully you and your family will be able to make a financial contribution if you ever need to seek refuge somewhere.

"I will, it'll never happen to me!" says man sat in comfort behind computer screen.

[Boydie88]

mx5nut said:

Hopefully you and your family will be able to make a financial contribution if you ever need to seek refuge somewhere.

"I will, it'll never happen to me!" says man sat in comfort behind computer screen.

Confusing refuge and economic migration, again.

[mx5nut]

Boydie88 said:

mx5nut said:

Hopefully you and your family will be able to make a financial contribution if you ever need to seek refuge somewhere.

"I will, it'll never happen to me!" says man sat in comfort behind computer screen.

Confusing refuge and economic migration, again.

I think he must be - since his reply about making a financial contribution was in response to talking about refugees.

I think some do it deliberately.

[jas xjr]

Voldemort said:

'bring in'

You think we advertise somewhere? "Immigrants wanted: must be useful"

did this not happen post war ?

[amusingduck]

mx5nut said:

del mar said:

We should only bring in people who we need and will make a financial contribution to the country.

Hopefully you and your family will be able to make a financial contribution if you ever need to seek refuge somewhere.

"I will, it'll never happen to me!" says man sat in comfort behind computer screen.

amusingduck said:

mx5nut said:

Not if you're fleeing war, you don't.

Who are these people that are fleeing from war, where the UK is the first safe country they can reach?

??

[Boosted LS1]

mx5nut said:

Boosted LS1 said:

TooMany2cvs said:

Boosted LS1 said:

Finlandia said:

Boosted LS1 said:

Finlandia said:

So 2012, in 2016 alone there were 52 handgrenade attacks in Sweden.

Who's doing it? Is it gang related and where are the grenades coming from?

Gang related, grenades coming in from the Balkans mainly. Handgrenades are not classed as weapons by the Swedish law, and so cannot be confiscated when they come in.

You really couldn't make it up.

And here it is. Isn't it surprising how we never get told this stuff on the news,

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_grenade_atta...

Are we making assumptions about the perpetrators and motives?

Do you think they're Swedish nationals? As for motive, I'd suggest injury or death given the tools being used.

Do Swedish nationals not commit crimes?

How many grenades do the Swedes chuck about? What about Somali's, perhaps some of them commit crimes? There's a clue in there somewhere :-)

Edited by Boosted LS1 on Thursday 18th January 12:01

[Boosted LS1]

amusingduck said:

mx5nut said:

Boosted LS1 said:

mx5nut said:

Funkycoldribena said:

How about the people who want them,house them? Say five years?
Let's see how many come forward.

Again, let's hope more compassionate people come forward if you or your family are ever in need.

That's why we have a welfare state.

Not if you're fleeing war, you don't.

Who are these people that are fleeing from war, where the UK is the first safe country they can reach?

He's just being a bit dense this morning despite the obvious migrant issues being blindingly obvious.

[andymc]

the acid moped gangs, are they home grown?

[jjlynn27]

amusingduck said:

??

What's the relevance in 'first safe' country?

[Digga]

jas xjr said:

Voldemort said:

'bring in'

You think we advertise somewhere? "Immigrants wanted: must be useful"

did this not happen post war ?

We did. We brought in specific people with specific skills and abilities, in order to carry out specific jobs. On the whole, it worked pretty well.

On the whole, because of colonialism, the UK was, both before and immediately after WW2, a far less racist place than, for example, the USA.

[amusingduck]

jjlynn27 said:

amusingduck said:

??

What's the relevance in 'first safe' country?

If you're fleeing war? The relevance is that you are no longer in danger of being blown up, usually.

[Zod]

markcoznottz said:

Zod said:

Funkycoldribena said:

How about the people who want them,house them? Say five years?
Let's see how many come forward.

Are you a net contributor?

That's not an argument. Looking at your car list you probably are. That doesn't mean your opinion counts any more than his. Using imported labour into jobs with low barriers of entry, i.e. What used to be years ago unskilled work, i.e. Factory, taxi work, etc, it's all agency or imported labour. See sports direct. Completely taken over catering ,hospitality , cleaning, motor trade etc. But it boosts GDP. Political class not bothered, revolving door employment in media/BBC/Whitehall etc. Not many Syrians there eh?

It is an argument. People who are not net contributors complaining about immigrants taking resources are hypocrites. The work done by immigrants could be done by people born here, but too may refuse.

[Tom Logan]

Zod said:

my post calling bigkeeko what he is got deleted for breaching posting rules.

boo fking hoo.

You can always go on to you beloved 'Soovy Watch' thread on Chew the Fat and have another rant with all the other idiots about all the 'racist s' on PH, eh?

[jjlynn27]

amusingduck said:

jjlynn27 said:

amusingduck said:

??

What's the relevance in 'first safe' country?

If you're fleeing war? The relevance is that you are no longer in danger of being blown up, usually.

Really? If I was fleeing war, I'd be looking to get away from such horrors that made it necessary for me to uproot my life. I wouldn't just go across the first border, would you?

[sidicks]

Tom Logan said:

boo fking hoo.

You can always go on to you beloved 'Soovy Watch' thread on Chew the Fat and have another rant with all the other idiots about all the 'racist s' on PH, eh?

Bigkeeko was being a racist idiot - the moderating on this sub-forum is often laughable when something like that can be accepted whilst the (emotional) responses are removed.

[Boosted LS1]

^^ Why not? They choose to cross multiple countries to get the benefits the final destination can offer.

If the UK had a civil war would you escape to France or Afghanistan?