Boris Bridge across channel

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MrBarry123

6,029 posts

122 months

Friday 19th January 2018
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Whenever I've travelled to France, the Eurotunnel has been great.

People who don't want to travel via it can just take a ferry or a flight.

Any bridge would seem a colossal waste of time and money to me.

Gargamel

15,015 posts

262 months

Friday 19th January 2018
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I love the short sighted narrow minded comments on here.

I imagine MKB & IKB faced the same problems of imagination in the general public when the proposed and built the first Thames Tunnel (Why bother there is already a bridge)

A road bridge to France would be awesome, particularly if it had a spur to a brand new airport. Don't focus on how much it would cost, it would bring jobs, investment and long lasting economic benefit.

Plus you could close Heathrow and significantly improve the housing problems in London.

Cross Rail is happening, The Channel Tunnel has been a great success, as was the Hindhead Tunnel, Dartford, QE2 Bridge etc etc

We have all the capability and technical skils - what we have is a criminal lack of vision

Boris for PM

The Dangerous Elk

4,642 posts

78 months

Friday 19th January 2018
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klootzak said:
So ... you want to increase cross-channel capability while enforcing border controls.

Interesting.

Where will all the traffic wait for your customs/security/cultural vetting?

k
Do you think there will be rush hour levels of traffic ?, I see that as the least of the problems of building another crossing.

andymadmak

14,601 posts

271 months

Friday 19th January 2018
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TooMany2cvs said:
andymadmak said:
As was discussed this morning on the radio, quite a lot of people don't/won't go in the tunnel.
Will they use a part-bridge-part-tunnel?
I don't know. Why don't you ask a few? Personally I have no problem using the tunnel

TooMany2cvs said:
Why don't they use the ferry, or planes?
I don't know. But I am flattered that you think that the scope of my knowledge extends that far. Sorry to disappoint.

TooMany2cvs said:

How much should be spent to pander to some mild phobias (at best)?
Mild phobias? For some, those "mild phobias" are undoubtedly serious issues. But hey, in your capacity as a fully trained clinical psychologist I am sure you can provide some guidance to those people who need to be told to snap out of it and man up (person up?)
GET IN THAT TUNNEL!!!! yep, I can see that working. USE THE BLOODY FERRY YOU SNOWFLAKE! awesome counselling skills

But as I said, spend the money on Skylon and travel to rest of the world in minutes


Zetec-S

5,892 posts

94 months

Friday 19th January 2018
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MXRod said:
And I presume somewhere in the middle will be a crossover , like a railway , to change from driving on one side of the road to the other .
Surely you'd have that at one end or the other in a more controlled environment. Which is the reason why this will never happen as neither Britain or France will agree on which end that should be biggrin

Reminds me of an old joke I heard (before the channel tunnel was built):

"Work has finally been completed on the elevator connecting the 15 mile British channel tunnel to the 15 mile French channel bridge"

The Surveyor

7,576 posts

238 months

Friday 19th January 2018
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TooMany2cvs said:
Seriously?

Never mind rolling back frictionless trade and the single market, we'll build a mahoosively expensive redundant dual carriageway?

It's almost like even BoJo's given up on the Thames island airport, and he simply fancies another vanity-project white elephant.
Seriously, yes.

It is no coincidence that this has been rolled out now. It'll never get built, it's just political brinksmanship.

bristolracer

5,546 posts

150 months

Friday 19th January 2018
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The Dangerous Elk said:
, I see that as the least of the problems of building another crossing.
1st problem = money
As we are unwilling to invest in any infrastructure in this country it is a complete non starter.
Our lack of investment is why our productivity is so low compared to other mature economies.

Maybe we could use PFI to build it,because we know just how much future generations are going to thank us for that!

Boris gets column inches shocker....

MDMetal

2,776 posts

149 months

Friday 19th January 2018
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JagLover said:
The Boris airport would only really suit most in London. For anyone else in the country it would mean going all the way around London in order to get to it.
London and around needs more airports, if the rest of country also needs more airports the solution is to build more not pretend building a big one in the middle will fix the problem. What is it with the UK? We constantly spend as much as possible to fix as small of an issue as possible. We build roads we know won't hold the capacity in a few years often straddled by bridges that then cost a fortune to widen the next time we add a lane, which only then serves to need to be widened again. Go to other countrys... EU,UAE,USA. find a flyover that wasn't build on the assumption you might need to double the road width at some point in the future. It's pretty pathetic really.

Riley Blue

20,986 posts

227 months

Friday 19th January 2018
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On which side of the road would traffic drive?

The Dangerous Elk

4,642 posts

78 months

Friday 19th January 2018
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bristolracer said:
1st problem = money
As we are unwilling to invest in any infrastructure in this country it is a complete non starter.
Our lack of investment is why our productivity is so low compared to other mature economies.

Maybe we could use PFI to build it,because we know just how much future generations are going to thank us for that!

Boris gets column inches shocker....
really ?

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

127 months

Friday 19th January 2018
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Riley Blue said:
On which side of the road would traffic drive?
There'd be a crossover at one end. Not the hardest thing in the world.

HK-China bridge.


Macau-China bridge.

Gargamel

15,015 posts

262 months

Friday 19th January 2018
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Riley Blue said:
On which side of the road would traffic drive?
Double decker bridge - then everyone can be on the same side both ways !

klootzak

624 posts

217 months

Friday 19th January 2018
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andymadmak said:
Cultural vetting? Really? Be careful you don't let that Remainer bitterness give you an ulcer.
Haha ... no bitterness or ulcer here.

Living on the other side of the planet and having no business interest in the UK any more I'm spectacularly indifferent to Britain's apparent obsession with economic self-harm.

It's amusing to note the desperate inconsistency of it all sometimes though.

k

klootzak

624 posts

217 months

Friday 19th January 2018
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r11co said:
Ask yourself why we didn't just stick with steam railways.
I have no idea. Sometimes it seems the UK would be much happier if those days had never passed.

k

andymadmak

14,601 posts

271 months

Friday 19th January 2018
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klootzak said:
andymadmak said:
Cultural vetting? Really? Be careful you don't let that Remainer bitterness give you an ulcer.
Haha ... no bitterness or ulcer here.

Living on the other side of the planet and having no business interest in the UK any more I'm spectacularly indifferent to Britain's apparent obsession with economic self-harm.

It's amusing to note the desperate inconsistency of it all sometimes though.

k
Only if one is foolish enough to imagine that a desire to leave the EU equals a desire to have no contact with Europe

mx5nut

5,404 posts

83 months

Friday 19th January 2018
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andymadmak said:
Mild phobias? For some, those "mild phobias" are undoubtedly serious issues. But hey, in your capacity as a fully trained clinical psychologist I am sure you can provide some guidance to those people who need to be told to snap out of it and man up (person up?)
GET IN THAT TUNNEL!!!! yep, I can see that working. USE THE BLOODY FERRY YOU SNOWFLAKE! awesome counselling skills
Somebody so terrified of ferries, tunnels and planes that they can't use them at all is unlikely to enjoy being stuck in a traffic jam on a bridge half way out in the middle of the English Channel.

klootzak

624 posts

217 months

Friday 19th January 2018
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The Dangerous Elk said:
Do you think there will be rush hour levels of traffic ?, I see that as the least of the problems of building another crossing.
That would be a good thing, no?

Masses of EUers clamouring to get into blighty. Threatening to bring their foreign ways to your comfortable village life.

Works for me ;-)

k

djdest

6,542 posts

179 months

Friday 19th January 2018
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The crossover to driving on the other side is easy, they already exist in various places


andymadmak

14,601 posts

271 months

Friday 19th January 2018
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mx5nut said:
andymadmak said:
Mild phobias? For some, those "mild phobias" are undoubtedly serious issues. But hey, in your capacity as a fully trained clinical psychologist I am sure you can provide some guidance to those people who need to be told to snap out of it and man up (person up?)
GET IN THAT TUNNEL!!!! yep, I can see that working. USE THE BLOODY FERRY YOU SNOWFLAKE! awesome counselling skills
Somebody so terrified of ferries, tunnels and planes that they can't use them at all is unlikely to enjoy being stuck in a traffic jam on a bridge half way out in the middle of the English Channel.
I'm tempted to ask for a source for that insight, but I recognise an exercise in futility when I see one hehe

klootzak

624 posts

217 months

Friday 19th January 2018
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andymadmak said:
Only if one is foolish enough to imagine that a desire to leave the EU equals a desire to have no contact with Europe
Of course it shouldn't. But the two things do seem to go together in the minds of so many here, alas.

k