Boris Bridge across channel

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The Dangerous Elk

4,642 posts

77 months

Friday 19th January 2018
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klootzak said:
That would be a good thing, no?

Masses of EUers clamouring to get into blighty. Threatening to bring their foreign ways to your comfortable village life.

Works for me ;-)

k
What are you blathering about ?

andymadmak

14,563 posts

270 months

Friday 19th January 2018
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klootzak said:
andymadmak said:
Only if one is foolish enough to imagine that a desire to leave the EU equals a desire to have no contact with Europe
Of course it shouldn't. But the two things do seem to go together in the minds of so many here, alas.

k
Really? Care to name some of them?

klootzak

624 posts

216 months

Friday 19th January 2018
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The Dangerous Elk said:
What are you blathering about ?
Apologies. I had conflated your enthusiasm for separation from the EU with enthusiasm for restricting cross-border movement of people. I see now you have no such desire.

k

klootzak

624 posts

216 months

Friday 19th January 2018
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andymadmak said:
Really? Care to name some of them?
Come now, it's hardly an unusual position round these parts.

k

Roofless Toothless

5,665 posts

132 months

Friday 19th January 2018
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Paddy_N_Murphy said:
I was involved in some of the longest suspension bridge projects the world a few years ago - ones that were being frequently being discussed and up for consideration were the Fehrman from Germany to Denmark, the Messian Crossing (the stats on the bridge were eye-opening) and even the Gibraltar straits....

Anything is possible. As for the argument that the channel is the busiest shipping lane 'danger' - if two moving ships aren't hitting each other there, why would a singular moving ship hit a stationary object?
You may have forgotten this one.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Rafael_Urd...

The Rafael Urdaneta bridge near Maracaibo, Venezuela, was opened in 1962. Less than two years later a tanker ran into it and brought down a couple of hundred yards of the carriageway. By that time the ferries that had always served this vital crossing had been scrapped. Result: the second city of Venezuela and source of its petroleum wealth cut off from the rest of the country for a very long time.

andymadmak

14,563 posts

270 months

Friday 19th January 2018
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klootzak said:
andymadmak said:
Really? Care to name some of them?
Come now, it's hardly an unusual position round these parts.

k
So you say.. So name some of the people who you feel hold this view.

The Dangerous Elk

4,642 posts

77 months

Friday 19th January 2018
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klootzak said:
andymadmak said:
Really? Care to name some of them?
Come now, it's hardly an unusual position round these parts.

k
Hard to grasp the Love Europe Hate the Eu Political System is it ?

Are you gong to comment on a type/need for another crossing ?

powerstroke

10,283 posts

160 months

Friday 19th January 2018
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I love it , yet more stupid comments from narrow minded EU lovers
Bless em

ukbabz

1,549 posts

126 months

Friday 19th January 2018
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Riley Blue said:
On which side of the road would traffic drive?
Have the lane have a flyover to switch sides half way ofc...

I quite like the idea of improving connections with Europe, a bridge or another tunnel would be great to see but the costs are the biggest issues. The UK has failed to invest properly for decades, I can't see this changing to fund (or part fund with the french) a crossing to Europe.

As for tolls - well if it's €50 each way, it's still cheaper than the tunnel. I'd likely take over the chunnel as it'd mean not having to stop and load a train etc just on the bridge and go (once cleared border checks)

mx5nut

5,404 posts

82 months

Friday 19th January 2018
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klootzak said:
andymadmak said:
Only if one is foolish enough to imagine that a desire to leave the EU equals a desire to have no contact with Europe
Of course it shouldn't. But the two things do seem to go together in the minds of so many here, alas.

k
Except when it suits (e.g to avoid contradicting the opinion of a prominent Brexiteer - as in this case)

The Dangerous Elk

4,642 posts

77 months

Friday 19th January 2018
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mx5nut said:
Another off topic attempt to break up a thread from MX5trollboy
Comment on the bridge maybe MX5 ? No work again today ? Sparkies get a lot of time off these days smile

Every time I have used the tunnel the experience has been quick, painless and easy. No delays with checks etc. I cannot see a massive problem, maybe even making it faster as the load (even if increased) will be spread across more crossings ?

Would it finally kill off the ferries ?


Edited by The Dangerous Elk on Friday 19th January 10:29

klootzak

624 posts

216 months

Friday 19th January 2018
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The Dangerous Elk said:
Hard to grasp the Love Europe Hate the Eu Political System is it ?

Are you gong to comment on a type/need for another crossing ?
Another crossing would be great.

Bridge sounds mildly impractical, but could be an epic engineering achievement.

Best of all, it would allow much, much easier transit to and from the UK.

Shame that would be hampered by politics that sets out to obstruct such transit.

k

The Dangerous Elk

4,642 posts

77 months

Friday 19th January 2018
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klootzak said:
Shame that would be hampered by politics that sets out to obstruct such transit.

k
Can you show me the plans to prevent movement of entitled persons please ?

powerstroke

10,283 posts

160 months

Friday 19th January 2018
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mx5nut said:
klootzak said:
andymadmak said:
Only if one is foolish enough to imagine that a desire to leave the EU equals a desire to have no contact with Europe
Of course it shouldn't. But the two things do seem to go together in the minds of so many here, alas.

k
Except when it suits (e.g to avoid contradicting the opinion of a prominent Brexiteer - as in this case)
I think you will find most leavers have a problem with the EU which is also the case with a sizeable number of our fellow Europeans !!! its nothing to do with Europe as a place or its peoples , Do you understand or is that too difficult a concept for you to grasp???

djc206

12,353 posts

125 months

Friday 19th January 2018
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Gargamel said:
Are there are no bridges anywhere in the world that stay up in stormy seas or a bit of wind ?

Should have built a bridge in stead of a tunnel in the first place.

Crack on and get it built.

Also Boris is right about the airport thing too..
He is so so wrong about the airport thing.

The bridge is a bit out there and more importantly a bit unnecessary. If there were no link it would seem like a reasonable solution, but there is, and it cost us quite a few bob so building another one at enormous expense seems a bit pointless.

MDMetal

2,775 posts

148 months

Friday 19th January 2018
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ukbabz said:
Riley Blue said:
On which side of the road would traffic drive?
Have the lane have a flyover to switch sides half way ofc...

I quite like the idea of improving connections with Europe, a bridge or another tunnel would be great to see but the costs are the biggest issues. The UK has failed to invest properly for decades, I can't see this changing to fund (or part fund with the french) a crossing to Europe.

As for tolls - well if it's €50 each way, it's still cheaper than the tunnel. I'd likely take over the chunnel as it'd mean not having to stop and load a train etc just on the bridge and go (once cleared border checks)
I've paid 30 each way on the tunnel.... Pop to Brugges for boxing day, fine food, tasty beer, car load of treats at discount prices and a trip for 4 people, bargain! The tunnel has very varied prices dependant on times and availability which is a blessing and a curse, road tolls have to be a bit more static.

TheRainMaker

6,338 posts

242 months

Friday 19th January 2018
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Wish they had put a bridge up the first time TBH, would have been much quicker than all the faff of waiting for trains etc etc.

Should keep the tunnel for passenger trains only and all traffic onto the bridge, would only take 20 mins to get over once you had passed the border control.

klootzak

624 posts

216 months

Friday 19th January 2018
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The Dangerous Elk said:
Can you show me the plans to prevent movement of entitled persons please ?
That depends entirely on how you define "entitled".

Currently it includes all EU citizens. No one really knows if that will be the case post brexit.

k

crankedup

25,764 posts

243 months

Friday 19th January 2018
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Just when I was thinking Boris is getting publicly serious, what a guy biggrin

Camoradi

4,291 posts

256 months

Friday 19th January 2018
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Riley Blue said:
On which side of the road would traffic drive?
I'm no engineer but I think the top would be best