So much cobblers talked about Brexit.

So much cobblers talked about Brexit.

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anonymous-user

55 months

Wednesday 24th January 2018
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Eddie is Cathy Newman AICMFP. laugh

anonymous-user

55 months

Wednesday 24th January 2018
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Ghibli said:
don'tbesilly said:
Ghibli said:
Camoradi said:
So it is possible the EU countries will not sell us cancer drugs after we leave the EU.

That could be bad news for the 3 million EU citizens living here
I would imagine EU citizens living in the UK will still have access to the EU.
So any EU national living in the UK suffering from cancer and in need of the drugs in question will be returning to pick up their drugs?

Is that what you're suggesting?
I don't see why they won't have that option if they need to. They will still have the freedom to do so if they wish.
You cant just rock up and buy medical isotopes over the counter.

Camoradi

4,292 posts

257 months

Wednesday 24th January 2018
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Ghibli said:
Camoradi said:
So it is possible the EU countries will not sell us cancer drugs after we leave the EU.

That could be bad news for the 3 million EU citizens living here
I would imagine EU citizens living in the UK will still have access to the EU.
Of course, they can just pop back to Romania or Spain for their twice weekly chemo. Having observed my sister going through cancer treatment I know that is a non starter

I predict we will come to an agreement with the EU over supplies of cancer drugs, as we have one by one come to agreement on other matters

anonymous-user

55 months

Wednesday 24th January 2018
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jsf said:
You cant just rock up and buy medical isotopes over the counter.
Nobody has said that.

They can travel to EU countries for treatment if they need it and it's not available in the UK.

anonymous-user

55 months

Wednesday 24th January 2018
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Ghibli said:
jsf said:
You cant just rock up and buy medical isotopes over the counter.
Nobody has said that.

They can travel to EU countries for treatment if they need it and it's not available in the UK.
Are you really suggesting the UK is going to be unable to access medical isotopes?

anonymous-user

55 months

Wednesday 24th January 2018
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jsf said:
Are you really suggesting the UK is going to be unable to access medical isotopes?
You need to read back to my first comment on the subject before you start making stuff.

don'tbesilly

13,936 posts

164 months

Wednesday 24th January 2018
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Ghibli said:
don'tbesilly said:
Ghibli said:
Camoradi said:
So it is possible the EU countries will not sell us cancer drugs after we leave the EU.

That could be bad news for the 3 million EU citizens living here
I would imagine EU citizens living in the UK will still have access to the EU.
So any EU national living in the UK suffering from cancer and in need of the drugs in question will be returning to pick up their drugs?

Is that what you're suggesting?
I don't see why they won't have that option if they need to. They will still have the freedom to do so if they wish.
They will have that option indeed, and I never suggested they wouldn't.

What will the cancer sufferers do? Get multiple prescriptions for the drugs from the GP/Consultant and just make the one trip, or get a monthly prescription and do a monthly pilgrimage?

What would happen if the consultant prescribed an alternative treatment requiring another drug only available from an EU country, another journey perhaps?

This sounds like a very expensive outcome for EU nationals living in the UK and suffering from cancer, would you not agree?

anonymous-user

55 months

Wednesday 24th January 2018
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Ghibli said:
jsf said:
Are you really suggesting the UK is going to be unable to access medical isotopes?
You need to read back to my first comment on the subject before you start making stuff.
Your first comment refers to EU citizens going back into the EU for treatment. It doesn't cover anything further.

You are suggesting the UK wont be able to access EU supplied medical isotopes. Or are you not saying that? If you are not saying that, whats the problem?

anonymous-user

55 months

Wednesday 24th January 2018
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Brexit and Pharma. Not yet a headline issue. Could become one. Useful pie charts here -

http://www.ema.europa.eu/ema/index.jsp?curl=pages/...

anonymous-user

55 months

Wednesday 24th January 2018
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Ghibli said:
Camoradi said:
So it is possible the EU countries will not sell us cancer drugs after we leave the EU.

That could be bad news for the 3 million EU citizens living here
I would imagine EU citizens living in the UK will still have access to the EU.
How much can a leave voter read into my post.

See up thread.

Yipper

5,964 posts

91 months

Wednesday 24th January 2018
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Leroy902 said:
Looks like JLR are beginning to feel the wrath...

https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-new...
It's due to the UK government's absolutely stupid diesel witch-hunt. Nothing to do with Brexit. Diesel aside, the UK car market is actually growing.

don'tbesilly

13,936 posts

164 months

Wednesday 24th January 2018
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Ghibli said:
Ghibli said:
Camoradi said:
So it is possible the EU countries will not sell us cancer drugs after we leave the EU.

That could be bad news for the 3 million EU citizens living here
I would imagine EU citizens living in the UK will still have access to the EU.
How much can a leave voter read into my post.

See up thread.
I read it and responded.

Can you now answer the questions posed

anonymous-user

55 months

Wednesday 24th January 2018
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don'tbesilly said:
I read it and responded.

Can you now answer the questions posed
JAQing off again wink

don'tbesilly

13,936 posts

164 months

Wednesday 24th January 2018
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Ghibli said:
don'tbesilly said:
I read it and responded.

Can you now answer the questions posed
JAQing off again wink
So nothing then, unsurprising for you.


anonymous-user

55 months

Wednesday 24th January 2018
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jsf said:
Ghibli said:
jsf said:
Are you really suggesting the UK is going to be unable to access medical isotopes?
You need to read back to my first comment on the subject before you start making stuff.
Your first comment refers to EU citizens going back into the EU for treatment. It doesn't cover anything further.

You are suggesting the UK wont be able to access EU supplied medical isotopes. Or are you not saying that? If you are not saying that, whats the problem?
No answer then Ghibli?

Funkycoldribena

7,379 posts

155 months

Wednesday 24th January 2018
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Breadvan72 said:
Brexit and Pharma. Not yet a headline issue. Could become one. Useful pie charts here -

http://www.ema.europa.eu/ema/index.jsp?curl=pages/...
"Could" and a pie chart.
Bingo.
Have another pie.

Murph7355

37,750 posts

257 months

Wednesday 24th January 2018
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Eddie Strohacker said:
I think three, you think four. No matter. To pick you up on ever closer union, I went into some detail about that a page back. Why you would interpret it in the way you have is weird. For weird, read ideologically inconvenient. I certainly did not say it means nothing, I in fact said it does not mean what most leavers on these pages say it means & went on to illustrate that in some detail.

Migration & immigration as you put it would have required the EU to rewrite it's rule book, so again, I invite you to look at Cameron & employ a little critical reasoning as to why the prime Minister set out to gain something he must have known he couldn't possibly achieve. It's all about where you train your fire, no?

You come within a whisker of running the old EU accounts routine. I expect you know it's another old turkey, up there with light bulbs, hoovers & bananas, so 100 lines for that one. Again, you fall into the man trap of decades of drip, drip anti Eu propaganda & that's a shame, because you're not one of the humps around here who arbitrarily kicks off any old post with a gratuitous pile of calumny in lieu of an actual argument.

Still wrong though smile

ETA Cameron super duper renegotiation stuff.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/eu-r...
Less favourable commentators might call "3" a lie. As you rely on The Independent that would be uncharitable. I think the link below to the actual letter with numbered items might help demonstrate how wrong I am smile

https://g8fip1kplyr33r3krz5b97d1-wpengine.netdna-s...

So what does ever closer union mean? Important or not. Legal or not? What do you think people like Juncker, Tusk and Verhofstadt are interpreting it as? Or even Macron?

On migration, an emergency brake was rewriting the rule book... Or would have been. The rule book is not an immutable thing. But they elected to give nothing, as they did on the rest. They gave nothing because they never believed for one second we'd leave. Oops.

I assume you were OK with the other empty handed bits CMD came back with.

(I always try to be careful with words. The EU accounts still aren't something for them to be proud of. There's no dripping. As I noted, I'm capable of making my own mind up based on original documents rather than interpretations by our media. Like the Dear Donald wink ).

Murph7355

37,750 posts

257 months

Wednesday 24th January 2018
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Breadvan72 said:
Will today's news about risks to aviation and to medication supply start to give some leavers pause, I wonder? Facts change, minds change, all that shebang?
Hasn't it been common knowledge for a long time that all flights will be grounded and we won't be able to fly anywhere?

Have I been holidaying in Cornwall for nothing or not?

I do at least have a cupboard full of paracetamol, Calpol and Night Nurse so at least that base is covered.

smile

Crackie

6,386 posts

243 months

Wednesday 24th January 2018
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jsf said:
Eddie is Cathy Newman AICMFP. laugh
Eddie often makes good points but its a pain to have to filter out these good points from the condescending nonsense he litters so many of his posts with.

The recent exchanges with Murph7355 have been good...........

Trolleys Thank You

872 posts

82 months

Wednesday 24th January 2018
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Jacob Rees Smugg asking why we don't extend article 50 so we stay in for longer. I thought he was a Brexiter?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-politics-42803413/...