Jordan Peterson vs Cathy Newman

[Patrick Bateman]

Donbot said:

Dr Jekyll said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgiLm9bCxrU

Sticks and stones....

Cracks me up every time. His grin

The way Forehead rises to the bait is just tremendous.

[Goaty Bill 2]

wolfracesonic said:

I've watched the Newman/Peterson interview God knows how many times now, I find it absolutely fascinating and that includes all the 'reviews' of it on YouTube; are there any responses out there that give Newman the victory or take her side? All the ones I've seen are pretty damning on Newman and her ideology.

I have seen nothing on youtube. The only thing in the press were the made up stories of death threats against Newman. (always willing to be informed of any actual police involvement/investigation of course)

I expect, as per Peterson's comment about youtube being predominately male, that the majority of Cathy supporting feminist commentators will be using their blogs and website forums.
That way, women who follow them can avoid the experience of actually watching it, whilst 'knowing' what their opinion about it should be.
The same happened during the Bill C-16 furore. Most bill supporters (men as well as women) went their favourite 'SJW' site/blog so they could be told what their opinions on Peterson should be.
Or, to choose another example; many people have their opinions of James Damore (google guy), never having read the document, nor listening to a full interview with him, nor understanding the history behind the document.

The world has always been full of idiots and ideologues. The internet has simply made these facts obvious.

[Randy Winkman]

Goaty Bill 2 said:

The world has always been full of idiots and ideologues. The internet has simply made these facts obvious.

I certainly agree with that.

[Halb]

Nice chat on the Big Questions now about pay gap/feminism etc.

[hairyben]

NJH said:

Anyone see last week's episode of the Orville that aired here in the UK on Fox? (The Orville is a comical version of Star Trek)

In this episode they came upon a planet just like 21st century earth except that the entire legal and political system had been replaced by a form of social media and Jeremy Kyle TV show style popularity contest, things which got voted up by the mass of people become declared the truth. People that got voted down to 10 million down votes lobotomised, and this could be for the most inane daft things like causing offence to a public statue or not giving up your seat for a pregnant woman (if you handled your tour of Jeremy Kyle type TV shows badly which the law decreed you had to do to convince the public your not a bad person).

It was a terrifyingly dystopian vision of a world which horrifically many are trying to bring about in this world today!

I'm noticing a bit of really not on-message tv/film sneaking past the hyper-left-worship that is the Hollywood etc media industry, interestingly many of those in the firing line aren't really picking up on just how darkly critical some of this stuff is

[Ari]

Quite incredibly, she learned nothing from her interview - she's still banging the 'it's all so unfair to women' drum.



The responses however...

[V8mate]

'So you're saying that women are 100 years old'

[Mothersruin]

[EddieSteadyGo]

Ari said:

Quite incredibly, she learned nothing from her interview - she's still banging the 'it's all so unfair to women' drum.



The responses however...

Thanks for posting that. Couldn't stop myself going to her twitter and adding a few likes to the more humorous "so what you saying is...."

[hyphen]

[Murph7355]

Ari said:

Quite incredibly, she learned nothing from her interview - she's still banging the 'it's all so unfair to women' drum.



The responses however...

It doesn't matter how much bad stuff is seeded from the internet, THIS is what it was invented for.

Absolutely priceless.

Is it really her account? If it is, she's rapidly running out of "benefit of the doubt" with regards to how bright she is!

[Halb]

The thing is, I hear now the phrase, 'so what you're saying is' in that old man puppet voice

[Mothersruin]

One of the many things that stood out about her viewpoint from the interview was when JP had to say, and I paraphrase, "Why wouldn't you have to work hard and fight for a top position".

It's almost, almost, as if some people think they should be gifted stuff instead of earning it because they feel that the world is being nasty to them.

[Goaty Bill 2]

[Einion Yrth]

Goaty Bill 2 said:

wikipaedia said:

Newman married writer John O'Connell, whom she met at university, in 2001. The couple have two daughters and live in London

too late, I'm afraid.

[Goaty Bill 2]

Einion Yrth said:

Goaty Bill 2 said:

wikipaedia said:

Newman married writer John O'Connell, whom she met at university, in 2001. The couple have two daughters and live in London

too late, I'm afraid.

So, what you're saying is, there are hoards of combative lobsters waiting to take control of parliament and industry.

Edited by Goaty Bill 2 on Monday 5th February 20:23

[Halb]

Goaty Bill 2 said:

So, what you're saying is, there are hoards of combative lobsters waiting to take control of parliament and industry.

Edited by Goaty Bill 2 on Monday 5th February 20:23

[Dr Jekyll]

Einion Yrth said:

wikipaedia said:

Newman married writer John O'Connell, whom she met at university, in 2001. The couple have two daughters and live in London

too late, I'm afraid.

Wonder if she'd be quite so keen on giving women an easy ride and smashing the supposed patriarchy if she had sons?

[Goaty Bill 2]

Halb said:

Goaty Bill 2 said:

So, what you're saying is, there are hoards of combative lobsters waiting to take control of parliament and industry.

Edited by Goaty Bill 2 on Monday 5th February 20:23

[richie99]

hairyben said:

NJH said:

Anyone see last week's episode of the Orville that aired here in the UK on Fox? (The Orville is a comical version of Star Trek)

In this episode they came upon a planet just like 21st century earth except that the entire legal and political system had been replaced by a form of social media and Jeremy Kyle TV show style popularity contest, things which got voted up by the mass of people become declared the truth. People that got voted down to 10 million down votes lobotomised, and this could be for the most inane daft things like causing offence to a public statue or not giving up your seat for a pregnant woman (if you handled your tour of Jeremy Kyle type TV shows badly which the law decreed you had to do to convince the public your not a bad person).

It was a terrifyingly dystopian vision of a world which horrifically many are trying to bring about in this world today!

I'm noticing a bit of really not on-message tv/film sneaking past the hyper-left-worship that is the Hollywood etc media industry, interestingly many of those in the firing line aren't really picking up on just how darkly critical some of this stuff is

There is a disturbing episode of Black Mirror were everyone is constantly rated by everyone they interact with. The points accumulated translate into a combination wealth/class system which limits your social, job, purchasing choices. The story is based around a woman who flips. Very disturbing even by black mirror standards.